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Post by jgblunners on Apr 22, 2017 11:30:12 GMT
I stand by Kristen Bell for Glinda - I didn't have any complaints about her vocals in Frozen and she's a good comedy actress. Whether she could actually hit the notes for Glinda I don't know.
As much as I'd love Sam Barks to get this, I think they'll want someone who's more well known in America - Lea Michele certainly fits that bill, so she seems like the obvious choice to me, but of course that means nothing in film casting.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 22, 2017 11:31:42 GMT
Nicole is too pretty, as are many of the suggested actresses. She's supposed to be an outcast because of her looks, not some glamourpuss who just happens to be green.
As for doe-eyed button-nosed Sam Barks. Just no.
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Post by jgblunners on Apr 22, 2017 11:34:49 GMT
Nicole is too pretty, as are many of the suggested actresses. She's supposed to be an outcast because of her looks, not some glamourpuss who just happens to be green. I would disagree entirely - in the musical, it's made very clear that her green skin is the reason she is cast aside and mocked by her peers. She sees how superficial they are and longs for someone (The Wizard) who will look beyond her green skin and see what more there is to her.
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Post by daniel on Apr 22, 2017 11:43:09 GMT
It won't happen, but I wish they would cast Glinda and Elphaba purely on talent. They can stunt cast the sh*t out of all of the supporting roles I have less issue with that, but we need raw talent in the leading ladies or we'll end up with another Les Mis movie.
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 22, 2017 11:47:10 GMT
Nicole is too pretty, as are many of the suggested actresses. She's supposed to be an outcast because of her looks, not some glamourpuss who just happens to be green. As for doe-eyed button-nosed Sam Barks. Just no. I have to disagree as well. I don't want to start an argument now but Idina Menzel, Rachel Tucker and Emma Hatton are all very pretty, just to name a few, and they managed to make a believable Elphaba!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 22, 2017 12:08:30 GMT
Idina's looks were perfect for it because despite being very attractive in real life, in make up they managed to make her look like she could actually be "wicked". Tucker, Ellis, Hatton... pretty bland looks-wise.
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Post by westendwendy on Apr 22, 2017 12:41:14 GMT
My money is on Gaga for Elpheba
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Post by welsh_tenor on Apr 22, 2017 13:00:59 GMT
I just want them to make a credible movie and show the story & songs for what they are! Casting an actress and then changing the key of the music is stupid!
Cast the witches with a strong music theatre background and then cast names as the rest! Meryl as Morrible will sell the tickets.
The fact that Stephen Schwartz and Marc Platt are making it would make me hope they won't stunt cast the leads!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:02:58 GMT
They didn't film Les Mis in one take... Live or not, she'd still get to redo it as many times as she needed. Well yes, but they still need her to hit the notes without being able to auto tune her! I watched her on some variety TV programme and she screamed the hell of out Memory! Not a fan. Hating this news! Something sang live on a movie set will never sound as good as something sang on stage or in a stusio, unless they spend a lot on getting the acoustics live. Nicole sang Memory very well in the actual show. You should also check out her renditions of POTO and DCFM Argentina.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:05:54 GMT
People talk of Elphaba as if she's Lady Macbeth. Is it an exciting role for a young(ish) performer? Hells, yes. But let's not make it what it isn't. Realistically, very few famous or semi-famous (Nicole being in the second category) can sing, kind of act, and not be ridiculous pulling this off. I think Nicole could be a fine contender. I do not expect an A-lister to tackle this, they're simply not made for this kind of role. Singing wise, she will be fine. The keys will probably be lowered (not because she can't hit them, but because it's a film and they tend to do that anyways to make the songs relevantly similar to our speaking pitch)..Anyway, whatever. Nicole could be as good as it gets, TBH. No one is getting a Kerry Ellis or a Wellemijn or a Rachel Tucker to star in this. They'll be happy if they star as citizens of Oz. 100% agree with this!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:08:04 GMT
Can we not boil it down even further to the fact that over half of the story is set in school! Nicole is old enough to play Morrible!! #teamleamichelle I agree! What about Anna Kendrick as Glinda? Would she be able to pull of the high notes though? I think Lea and Anna together would really pull people in though. No please. Anna can sing, but she's not fantastic. She'd be good for Nessa. Also not a fan of Lea.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:10:48 GMT
I stand by Kristen Bell for Glinda - I didn't have any complaints about her vocals in Frozen and she's a good comedy actress. Whether she could actually hit the notes for Glinda I don't know. As much as I'd love Sam Barks to get this, I think they'll want someone who's more well known in America - Lea Michele certainly fits that bill, so she seems like the obvious choice to me, but of course that means nothing in film casting. Hell yes, Kristen would be the perfect Glinda.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:12:41 GMT
Nicole is too pretty, as are many of the suggested actresses. She's supposed to be an outcast because of her looks, not some glamourpuss who just happens to be green. As for doe-eyed button-nosed Sam Barks. Just no. Too pretty for Elphaba. Lots of beautiful actresses have played that rule. She's an outcast because she's green, not because she's ugly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:15:14 GMT
It won't happen, but I wish they would cast Glinda and Elphaba purely on talent. They can stunt cast the sh*t out of all of the supporting roles I have less issue with that, but we need raw talent in the leading ladies or we'll end up with another Les Mis movie. I think everyone wants that. But we're talking based on the assumption that Hollywood will yet again cast based on name. We're just trying to come up with big names tgat might actually be able to pull off the score.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 14:19:34 GMT
Idina's looks were perfect for it because despite being very attractive in real life, in make up they managed to make her look like she could actually be "wicked". Tucker, Ellis, Hatton... pretty bland looks-wise. I never thought of Idina or Hatton as attractive. But when I think of Dearman, Ellis or Tucker, a 4 letter acronym springs to mind.
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 22, 2017 14:19:48 GMT
I agree! What about Anna Kendrick as Glinda? Would she be able to pull of the high notes though? I think Lea and Anna together would really pull people in though. No please. Anna can sing, but she's not fantastic. She'd be good for Nessa. Also not a fan of Lea. She would be but I'm not sure if she'd take such a small role? Maybe she would if they wrote a new song for Nessa but even that wouldn't expand the role too much.
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Post by dubbie on Apr 22, 2017 15:20:29 GMT
I loved that they filmed Les Mis in London as the setting was appropriate with the time period, so we got loads of west end cameos. Sadly I imagine Wicked will be filmed in a studio in LA or something so we won't see our favourite performers appearing as citizens of oz.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 15:25:38 GMT
Surely Meryl is booked for Madame Morrible? Like, that is something that just has to happen!
I imagine they will give Kristin and Idina a cemeo, but I hope it is a smart cameo, not one designed just to have them on screen for 4 seconds to shut people up, it has to work!
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Post by LaLuPone on Apr 22, 2017 15:38:27 GMT
I imagine they will give Kristin and Idina a cemeo, but I hope it is a smart cameo, not one designed just to have them on screen for 4 seconds to shut people up, it has to work! I vote Idina for Witch's Mother and Kristin for the midwife, I think that would be a pretty funny and clever way to get them in there. And what about Norbert Leo Butz as Witch's Father to top it all off
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Post by daniel on Apr 22, 2017 16:10:17 GMT
I think you're all forgetting the most important thing...
Who's gonna be fifth cover midwife?!
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Post by madsonmelo on Apr 22, 2017 16:10:43 GMT
Scherzinger is too old,especially for theatre. Also, I disagree that they need stunt cast for this or that they think so, Wicked would sell good enough without a name, the movie Just need to be decent.
Rossum was a nobody when she did Phantom, course the movie was horrible, but no stunt cast needed. And Phantom was as big as Wicked is these days (also, as old).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 16:34:29 GMT
Kevin Spacey should be the Wizard. I think his hosting the Tonys could make the producers of Wicked consider him for the part. He has all it takes to be a great Wizard. He's a fantastic actor, great singer and a big name. And he's the perfect age.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 17:01:01 GMT
I loved that they filmed Les Mis in London as the setting was appropriate with the time period, so we got loads of west end cameos. Sadly I imagine Wicked will be filmed in a studio in LA or something so we won't see our favourite performers appearing as citizens of oz. It could be filmed at Pinewood? Lots of Hollywood films are filmed there as the stage is huge? Why can I see someone like Zac Efron as Fieryo? Agree Meryl is bound for Madame Morrible but what about Oprah Winfrey?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 17:01:28 GMT
I think you're all forgetting the most important thing... Who's gonna be fifth cover midwife?! I'm gonna sound like such an idiot asking this but I always see this joke....what does it mean?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 17:06:20 GMT
I think you're all forgetting the most important thing... Who's gonna be fifth cover midwife?! I'm gonna sound like such an idiot asking this but I always see this joke....what does it mean? It means the sixth person in line to go on for the role of the Midwife. The fifth person covering the awesome role of lead Midwife. She's insane, she invented the "nose" riff.
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Post by dippy on Apr 22, 2017 17:10:25 GMT
I loved that they filmed Les Mis in London as the setting was appropriate with the time period, so we got loads of west end cameos. Sadly I imagine Wicked will be filmed in a studio in LA or something so we won't see our favourite performers appearing as citizens of oz. It could be filmed at Pinewood? Lots of Hollywood films are filmed there as the stage is huge? It could very easily be filmed over here, LA is probably the least likely filming location since they don't have the tax breaks there so films aren't really made there any more. It'll probably all come down to where it's cheapest to make the film and if they are doing anything on location where those locations are.
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Post by daniel on Apr 22, 2017 18:04:54 GMT
I think you're all forgetting the most important thing... Who's gonna be fifth cover midwife?! I'm gonna sound like such an idiot asking this but I always see this joke....what does it mean? You know what, I can't even remember how it started, but it's a long-running joke on the infamous Wicked thread.
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Post by danielwhit on Apr 22, 2017 18:13:40 GMT
Realistically - musicals on film have a habit of going one of two ways: 1. They make shed loads of cash 2. They lose shed loads of cash
The key factor really is the casting.
By which I mean if you were, let's say, a Film Fan (characterised by a positive disinterest in theatre but will watch some films), you'd be more inclined to see a movie if it had at least a name or two you recognise.
If you were, let's say, a Musical Theatre Fan (characterised by seeing musicals but not really many films), you'd be inclined to see the movie whoever was cast in it.
There are numerous examples of great musicals being translated onto film with original cast (or stage folk, at least) and not doing especially well - look at Rent and The Producers. There are also examples, like Les Mis and Hairspray, where they cast names above theatre pedigree and the box office sings.
Wicked, like it or not, is not a big brand outside of theatre. It isn't a Phantom or Sound of Music, it never has been and probably never will be. Therefore it is 100% in the producers interest to get names on board. Whether that is Nicole as Elphaba, Meryl as Morrible or Patrick Stewart as the Wizard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 18:15:48 GMT
I do think Wicked is enough of a brand that they could get away with casting the leads as unknowns/Broadway stars and casting big names in the supporting roles though.
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Post by shady23 on Apr 22, 2017 18:41:43 GMT
One vote for Helena BC for Madame Morrible over here.
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