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Post by shady23 on Apr 22, 2017 18:45:32 GMT
I'm gonna sound like such an idiot asking this but I always see this joke....what does it mean? You know what, I can't even remember how it started, but it's a long-running joke on the infamous Wicked thread. Wicked has a fan base of super fans that love to see anyone who isn't normally on stage being on*. It gets you extra points on the top fan scoreboard to watch them. If you hear an understudy is on (the rarer the better) you must run to the theatre immediately and book for that performance, whatever the cost, as it is inevitable that they will put on "the best ever" performance ever witnessed. The fifth cover midwife being on is the holy grail of every super fan! (* unless, of course, your favourite isn't on. Such occasions lead to melt downs by the Ozdust Boutique)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 19:02:55 GMT
Weird thing with Nicole is she isnt right for the role in terms of age range and talent, but more to the point she isnt that big a star to make it worth casting her to sell tickets. She isnt exactly A list. Shes one of these people that keep trying to make themselves happen but never quite make it. Wicked and theatre fans will see it whatever so the point of casting a name is to get average theatregoers in and i dont see Nicole doing that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 19:34:58 GMT
Weird thing with Nicole is she isnt right for the role in terms of age range and talent, but more to the point she isnt that big a star to make it worth casting her to sell tickets. She isnt exactly A list. Shes one of these people that keep trying to make themselves happen but never quite make it. Wicked and theatre fans will see it whatever so the point of casting a name is to get average theatregoers in and i dont see Nicole doing that Think that's abit harsh. She was lead singer of one of the biggest girl bands on the planet (only one people know from the Pussycat Dolls) and has judged numerous times on both The X Factor USA and UK meaning she is well known on both sides of the pond
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 20:02:03 GMT
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Post by shady23 on Apr 22, 2017 20:14:18 GMT
Weird thing with Nicole is she isnt right for the role in terms of age range and talent, but more to the point she isnt that big a star to make it worth casting her to sell tickets. She isnt exactly A list. Shes one of these people that keep trying to make themselves happen but never quite make it. Wicked and theatre fans will see it whatever so the point of casting a name is to get average theatregoers in and i dont see Nicole doing that Think that's abit harsh. She was lead singer of one of the biggest girl bands on the planet (only one people know from the Pussycat Dolls) and has judged numerous times on both The X Factor USA and UK meaning she is well known on both sides of the pond I watched the X factor auditions once. Lots of takes of Nicole saying her "impromptu" comments to the singers, AFTER they left the stage. She'd botched it up the first time! They edited out the empty stage from the final takes, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 20:20:01 GMT
Weird thing with Nicole is she isnt right for the role in terms of age range and talent, but more to the point she isnt that big a star to make it worth casting her to sell tickets. She isnt exactly A list. Shes one of these people that keep trying to make themselves happen but never quite make it. Wicked and theatre fans will see it whatever so the point of casting a name is to get average theatregoers in and i dont see Nicole doing that Think that's abit harsh. She was lead singer of one of the biggest girl bands on the planet (only one people know from the Pussycat Dolls) and has judged numerous times on both The X Factor USA and UK meaning she is well known on both sides of the pond Pussycat Dolls were years ago now, her solo career never really took off and now she is known gor yoghurt adverts and judging dying reality show. I didnt say she wasnt known but she is hardly a hollywood name to sell a movie. Its like putting a Spice Girl in Les Mis movie
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 20:28:44 GMT
Pussycat Dolls were years ago now, her solo career never really took off and now she is known gor yoghurt adverts and judging dying reality show. I didnt say she wasnt known but she is hardly a hollywood name to sell a movie. Its like putting a Spice Girl in Les Mis movieExcept Nicole can actually sing.
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Post by carmella1 on Apr 22, 2017 20:49:30 GMT
Weird thing with Nicole is she isnt right for the role in terms of age range and talent, but more to the point she isnt that big a star to make it worth casting her to sell tickets. She isnt exactly A list. Shes one of these people that keep trying to make themselves happen but never quite make it. Wicked and theatre fans will see it whatever so the point of casting a name is to get average theatregoers in and i dont see Nicole doing that Think that's abit harsh. She was lead singer of one of the biggest girl bands on the planet (only one people know from the Pussycat Dolls) and has judged numerous times on both The X Factor USA and UK meaning she is well known on both sides of the pond No not a big enough name in the US butt add in Wizzard-Hugh Jackman for all those that think he is perfect for every part, Fiyero either Harry Styles or Justin B and Morrible Meryl Streep = box office. Does anything else matter? Elphaba or Glinda - box office first please.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2017 21:22:20 GMT
One vote for Helena BC for Madame Morrible over here. I looooove her!
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Post by anthony40 on Apr 22, 2017 21:30:34 GMT
OMG Yes!!!!!!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 22, 2017 22:32:33 GMT
Think that's abit harsh. She was lead singer of one of the biggest girl bands on the planet (only one people know from the Pussycat Dolls) and has judged numerous times on both The X Factor USA and UK meaning she is well known on both sides of the pond I watched the X factor auditions once. Lots of takes of Nicole saying her "impromptu" comments to the singers, AFTER they left the stage. She'd botched it up the first time! They edited out the empty stage from the final takes, of course. She's not the brightest button in the sewing box. She guested on Rupaul's "What's The Tee" podcast a few months ago and he could hardly get a coherent sentence out of her. Out. To. Lunch.
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Post by Jon on Apr 22, 2017 22:43:53 GMT
Helen Mirren as Morrible would be great, I think Morrible, The Wizard, Nessarose, Boq and maybe Fiyero could be cast with big names and have Elphaba and Glinda played by people who are either unknown or semi known.
Beauty and the Beast showed the potential of how to do a musical with a huge budget and you can bet Universal ain't going to skimp on Wicked. I suspect Dillamond will be motion capture but I think the others could done with makeup and prosthetics.
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Post by Dave25 on Apr 23, 2017 10:49:21 GMT
What audiences really want to see is quality. Especially in this day and age, I see clips of new talent appearing all the time and going viral. People love to be excited about new things, new stars, the next special thing.
I mean, is there really 1 person on earth that decided to buy a ticket for the les Mis film because of Russel Crowe? And otherwise would have decided not to watch the film? I don't think so. If anything, performances like that avoid people from watching it a second time and avoid buying the Blu ray, it did for me. Performances like that will not stand the test of time.
Look at the Beauty and the beast film. Emma Watson was supposedly the big "ticket selling name". Yet it's Luke Evans, Audra Mc Donald and Dan Stevens that bring in the quality and sell the soundtrack and make the film lasting. And yet, Emma's performance was so bad that I can not listen to the soundtrack, and it really keeps me from watching the film again. Maybe I'll give it another go with the French dub.
What the world really warms for is that unknown wonderful talent that really shines through. Stars are so easily created these days.
There is a reason why Mary Poppins and the Sound of Music are still so wonderful today and the Phantom of The opera 2004 film and Les Miserables are not.
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Post by indis on Apr 23, 2017 10:53:07 GMT
What audiences really want to see is quality. Especially in this day and age, I see clips of new talent appearing all the time and going viral. People love to be excited about new things, new stars, the next special thing. I mean, is there really 1 person on earth that decided to buy a ticket for the les Mis film because of Russel Crowe? And otherwise would have decided not to watch the film? I don't think so. If anything, performances like that avoid people from watching it a second time and avoid buying the Blu ray, it did for me. Performances like that will not stand the test of time. Look at the Beauty and the beast film. Emma Watson was supposedly the big "ticket selling name". Yet it's Luke Evans, Audra Mc Donald and dan Stevens that bring in the quality and sell the soundtrack and make the film lasting. And yet, Emma's performance was so bad that I can not listen to the soundtrack, and it really keeps me from watching the film again. Maybe I'll give it another go with the French dub. What the world really warms for is that unknown wonderful talent that really shines through. Stars are so easily created these days. There is a reason why Mary Poppins and the sound of Music are still so wonderful today and the Phantom of The opera 2004 film and Les Miserables are not. try the swedish synchronisation - it is on yt on DisneyVeVo and also on I-tunes with former Christine Emmi Christensson as Belle, Karolina Andersson (Carlotta in Stockholm) as Garderobe and some other Phantom members in it too and it sounds awesome - love it
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Post by tcodd1 on May 10, 2017 16:28:41 GMT
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Post by Sari on May 10, 2017 16:58:39 GMT
I think it's official...
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 17:24:53 GMT
"These are the people who cast Nicole Scherzinger in a musical. Jesus Christ, I suck, I suck, I suck".
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Post by aine on May 10, 2017 22:00:52 GMT
Helen Mirren as Morrible would be great, I think Morrible, The Wizard, Nessarose, Boq and maybe Fiyero could be cast with big names and have Elphaba and Glinda played by people who are either unknown or semi known. Beauty and the Beast showed the potential of how to do a musical with a huge budget and you can bet Universal ain't going to skimp on Wicked. I suspect Dillamond will be motion capture but I think the others could done with makeup and prosthetics. I'm here for Helen Mirren as Morrible! I would rather they took someone who had previously played Elphaba or Glinda on to play the two leading roles though, as oppose to someone like Emma Watson, whose autotuned BATB songs still annoy me, or someone else chosen for their fan base.
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Post by LaLuPone on May 10, 2017 22:25:52 GMT
I still see Idina as Melena and Kristin as Morrible. Failing that, as a cameo dropping Galinda off Shiz - but I think she'd be a wonderful Morrible. She would be a great Morrible but I think right now she's still a bit young (and way too hot) to play Morrible. I also think it would be a bit criminal if Idina just got a cameo and Kristin got a full role.
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Post by sirdaniel on May 10, 2017 23:31:17 GMT
X Factor judges are normally confirmed in late May/early June so even if there's nothing officially about the casting, if she's not doing X Factor then it's a pretty big hint, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 15:18:40 GMT
Idina as Elphaba's mother, Kristin as the Midwife and Norbert Leo Butz as Elphaba's father would be pretty cool.
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Post by LaLuPone on May 11, 2017 15:26:08 GMT
Idina as Elphaba's mother, Kristin as the Midwife and Norbert Leo Butz as Elphaba's father would be pretty cool. As I said a few pages back. It would be fab. And imagine Kristin doing the "nose" riff...
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Post by madsonmelo on May 11, 2017 16:12:51 GMT
it's ridiculous that Nicole will be Elphaba in the MOVIE, it's not reality, she's too old.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 16:58:56 GMT
it's ridiculous that Nicole will be Elphaba in the MOVIE, it's not reality, she's too old. Nothing has been confirmed.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 17:23:51 GMT
Its very random but aside tabloids nothing has been reported and its convenient to be at the same time as xfactor contract negotiations
She would be a strange choice as she cant act, isnt anything exceptional vocally, is too old but mainly isnt really an A list star to sell a movie to make up for all of that.
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Post by sirdaniel on May 16, 2017 14:38:48 GMT
Nicole has signed up to X Factor again and is reportedly spending the summer working on music with will.i.am.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 14:43:12 GMT
I really think, if they are gonna star cast, do it for the Supporting roles and keep the two leads as musical theatre stars, preferably ones that have either done the role or have done musical theatre extensively. I think we can pretty much assume Meryl Streep will be Morrible, you can get an aging but legendary older actor to play The Wizard, how about Ian Mckellen or someone to cameo as Doctor Dillamond?
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Post by cheesy116 on May 16, 2017 15:04:35 GMT
Soon the Wicked London gossip account will be saying Alice Fearn is in talks for Elphaba for this too
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 15:07:13 GMT
Soon the Wicked London gossip account will be saying Alice Fearn is in talks for Elphaba for this too I remember someone saying recently on twitter that they heard Emma Hatton would be a smart casting choice for Elphaba in the movie... I nearly died. I mean, lets be honest, its a very, very short list of Elphaba's around the world who can pull off the part and are well known enough Internationally to play the role... Kerry Ellis, Willemijn Verkaik, Jennifer DiNoia, The Queen of Green... need I go on??
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 16:00:31 GMT
you can get an aging but legendary older actor to play The Wizard I can imagine David Hyde Pierce or Richard Kind making a good Wizard.
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