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Post by theatreian on Mar 22, 2024 11:37:29 GMT
A brief clip of all 37 songs.
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Post by ncbears on May 2, 2024 4:24:20 GMT
Almost semifinal time. I have not listened to any of the songs nor watched videos nor checked the betting odds. I wont be able to watch live in US. So the pressing question: will UK be on the left side?
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Post by theatreian on May 2, 2024 9:02:37 GMT
Switzerland have been favourites for a while while we are about 13th favourite so could indeed be on the left. Anything can happen on the night though.
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Post by amyja89 on May 2, 2024 9:14:06 GMT
Our song is fine enough and Olly is a seasoned performer, so I'd imagine we'll pick a few points up from the judges if he takes the chance well. As far as phone votes go, it's a complete lottery.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 2, 2024 9:38:30 GMT
I strongly predict the U.K. will be at the bottom of the scoreboard again. It’s awful.
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Post by theatreian on May 2, 2024 9:40:39 GMT
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Post by anthony40 on May 2, 2024 9:46:53 GMT
Come on Malta and Australia!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 2, 2024 9:49:06 GMT
Come on Malta and Australia! No bias there at all eh anthony40? One of my favourite ever entries was a Maltese one. Little Child by Mary Spiteri. Fab belt at the end.
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Post by anthony40 on May 2, 2024 9:52:59 GMT
Come on Malta and Australia! No bias there at all eh anthony40 ? One of my favourite ever entries was a Maltese one. Little Child by Mary Spiteri. Fab belt at the end. Gotta stay true to the motherlands* BurlyBeaR! (He puffs out his chest and thumps his heart with pride!) *For those of you unaware, although I was born, raised and educated in Australia, my heritage is Maltese.
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Post by theatreian on May 3, 2024 9:51:51 GMT
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Post by stuartmcd on May 7, 2024 11:08:29 GMT
Who would have thought that the UK and Ireland would be sending the best staging this year? Pretty impressive from both
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Post by viserys on May 7, 2024 11:23:34 GMT
Would people be interested in a live chat for the finale on Saturday? My usual companions have flaked out this year and watching alone without snarking about the performances will be boring.
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Post by alece10 on May 7, 2024 15:00:29 GMT
Would people be interested in a live chat for the finale on Saturday? My usual companions have flaked out this year and watching alone without snarking about the performances will be boring. I'm in. I love a good old bitch about the performers and songs.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 7, 2024 19:47:11 GMT
We have a live chat function on the forum home page that I could switch on for Saturday’s final if you would like. After the event, when it’s switched off, the chat is lost. Let us know if you would like this to be enabled. Of course people can just “live chat” in the thread. Up to you
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Post by viserys on May 8, 2024 8:14:28 GMT
Yea, the live chat function was what I was thinking of, as it makes for quicker conversation.
But if people prefer to just chat in the thread, that's okay too.
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Post by theatreian on May 10, 2024 8:45:29 GMT
Anyone who has seen the semi finals may notice that the lack of jury votes this year has led to some of the really strong songs eg Belgium being eliminated at this stage. Also to note is the lack of live vocals in may of the performances. Backing tracks seem to have taken over and whereas the 6 allowed on stage as is still the case used to include backing vocalists this seems to have gone also as when you listed to some entries you can hear additional vocals when no one on stage is singing. Croatia is still the massive favourite although Israel has now jumped into 2nd favourite. eurovisionworld.com/odds/eurovision
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Post by jojo on May 10, 2024 10:11:55 GMT
The performance from Belgium wasn't great. The vocals seemed to be lost in the mix so I didn't get much in a way of melody, and what I did hear wasn't always (to my ears) quite in tune.
I didn't know they'd changed the rules on live singing. I know it's a song contest, not a singing contest, but for me it's at risk of veering a bit too much towards a staging contest. If they want to have a lot of dancers on stage they need to make sure the main singer can carry the song.
The UK song is growing on me, but I've been exposed to a clip of it nearly every time I've watched the BBC in recent weeks, so it's hard to tell if it will have the same impact abroad. Is Olly a big enough international star that he'd get played on international radio to build support? I've never rated him as a live vocalist, and unfortunately his semi-final performance didn't change my mind. I hope he can do a bit better for the final, and it's possible he'll pick up a respectable number of votes from people who don't care or notice the vocals.
I think we often do poorly at Eurovision because we don't respect it, and everyone knows it. Most years we don't put any effort into pretending we do. Sending a very weak vocalist is a problem. Arguably sending an established pop star shows a certain amount of respect, but I don't think it's enough to compensate.
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Post by alece10 on May 10, 2024 11:49:06 GMT
I think we take it more seriously now, probably since Sam Ryder came 2nd. The semis were always tucked away on BBC2 but now they are in BBC1. Also lots of related programmes on both TV and radio. We also did a brilliant job of hosting last year and (correct me if I'm wrong Eurovision experts) wasn't last year one of the fastest selling years for tickets? Even the rehearsals sold out which isn't always the case
It's just that Europe don't like us. 😞
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Post by crowblack on May 10, 2024 12:09:00 GMT
It's just that Europe don't like us. 😞 I don't think that's the case, more that we don't put forward strong acts: last year's was a bit grumpy sixth form school show c. 1996, surprisingly weak given she was on home turf.
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Post by mkb on May 10, 2024 12:43:19 GMT
Interesting to note that the presenters claimed that the country that most tickets were sold to was the UK, beating Sweden.
There is so much political voting, that voting based on song-writing talent is pretty much obscured. When not influenced by geo-politics, I expect the remainder of that self-selecting demographic who want to vote and are willing to pay for the privilege, have largely superficial reasons for preferring one act over another.
The way you vote, i.e. who's your favourite?, rather than awarding qualitative marks to each song, and the way they count them, i.e. awarding zero votes to any act not in a country's top ten, is all designed to heighten the disparities and not recognise who is actually any good.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2024 16:13:51 GMT
Sam Ryder would have won easily had the Ukraine not been at war. Europe will vote for us if we put the right song in, we just don’t do that usually. This years dross being a fine example.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2024 17:10:00 GMT
The old certain countries not voting for each other or favouring another near neighbour has been part of Eurovision for as longs as I can remember. Also the choice of song has to appeal to a wide range of countrires and some are more socially conservative than others etc.
Good luck to Olly and I hope it goes off smoothly.
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Post by amyja89 on May 10, 2024 17:16:07 GMT
I fear his theming/choreography is going to be a little too ‘much’ for the conservative leaning nations. Eurovision loves camp, but not necessarily ‘gay’. :-(
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2024 17:24:11 GMT
He’s gone flat out to make it about himself, his sexuality and his politics. The actual song seems to be the very last thing on the priority list. I hope it comes bottom.
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Post by shownut on May 11, 2024 12:37:41 GMT
Well, I hope nobody had Netherlands at the top of their list....
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