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Post by alece10 on May 4, 2023 16:14:34 GMT
I will not be watching a single second of this obscene spectacle, flaunting of inherited wealth and privilege during a cost of living crisis is beyond vile. The monarchy ought to have been abolished centuries ago, they are archaic and, frankly, completely pointless. You are sitting on the fence a bit there. Can't work out if you are a Charlie fan or not! |
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Post by Mr Snow on May 4, 2023 16:50:46 GMT
I don't know if its "just me" but I'm surprised by the level of apathy about the whole thing by my friends and acquaintances. The average age must be about 65 and rather than growing more royalist as they age, the opposite seems true. I hope this occasion marks a shift change in opinion about the worthlessness of the family.
One lady said she recalled her father sitting them all down to watch the last Coronation.
"Boring and will not be repeated."
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 4, 2023 16:52:28 GMT
I will not be watching a single second of this obscene spectacle, flaunting of inherited wealth and privilege during a cost of living crisis is beyond vile. The monarchy ought to have been abolished centuries ago, they are archaic and, frankly, completely pointless. Would it be ok outside of a cost of living crisis? |
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Post by talkingheads on May 4, 2023 17:18:46 GMT
I will not be watching a single second of this obscene spectacle, flaunting of inherited wealth and privilege during a cost of living crisis is beyond vile. The monarchy ought to have been abolished centuries ago, they are archaic and, frankly, completely pointless. Would it be ok outside of a cost of living crisis? Nope. The Monarchy are not special. Just because of their bloodline they think they are better than us? They can get in the bin. |
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Post by mkb on May 4, 2023 17:39:20 GMT
Those offended by those of us who loudly voice our objections to monarchy will not be happy to learn that there were several enthusiastic choruses of "You can stick your coronation up your arse" from most of the ground at the football last night. A bit crass granted, but nevertheless, most satisfying, and good to see how much support it had.
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Post by lynette on May 4, 2023 19:45:39 GMT
I’ll be watching. Sorry, my friends. I’m actually not a believer in the UK monarchy in that I think they should gracefully retire, do the good works without the ermine. But I do enjoy the historical perspective. The balance or non balance between the monarchy, its cast etc and the actual people involved is fascinating.
And I love shouting at the telly when the commentators blather on…
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 4, 2023 21:27:05 GMT
I’ll be watching. Sorry, my friends. I’m actually not a believer in the UK monarchy in that I think they should gracefully retire, do the good works without the ermine. But I do enjoy the historical perspective. The balance or non balance between the monarchy, its cast etc and the actual people involved is fascinating. And I love shouting at the telly when the commentators blather on… He he |
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Post by londonpostie on May 5, 2023 7:14:52 GMT
I don't think the POTUS is a relevant comparison. That power is not even "officially" given to the king. As the article states Trump gave less pardons than any modern President, proving once again how inefficient he was.😉 I know what it says. The point was he didn't use the power unless he was paid to use the power. |
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Post by interval99 on May 5, 2023 7:44:32 GMT
Those offended by those of us who loudly voice our objections to monarchy will not be happy to learn that there were several enthusiastic choruses of "You can stick your coronation up your arse" from most of the ground at the football last night. A bit crass granted, but nevertheless, most satisfying, and good to see how much support it had. Let's repeat it, you live in a free country. You state and seem to enjoy the misguided belief we are offended by the comments on here Actually the majority of people know others may have different views and can still communicate, discuss about things they disagree on but still remain civil and while we may not like or understand the viewpoint we can accept people views without being offended or going into shock about them. Because we don't have the arrogance to think only we know best. |
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Post by mkb on May 5, 2023 9:14:46 GMT
Those offended by those of us who loudly voice our objections to monarchy will not be happy to learn that there were several enthusiastic choruses of "You can stick your coronation up your arse" from most of the ground at the football last night. A bit crass granted, but nevertheless, most satisfying, and good to see how much support it had. Let's repeat it, you live in a free country. You state and seem to enjoy the misguided belief we are offended by the comments on here Actually the majority of people know others may have different views and can still communicate, discuss about things they disagree on but still remain civil and while we may not like or understand the viewpoint we can accept people views without being offended or going into shock about them. Because we don't have the arrogance to think only we know best. Someone upthread said they were offended, so "misguided" is incorrect. Other than that, there's no point in responding to an ad hominen attack. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 11:28:53 GMT
Let's repeat it, you live in a free country. You state and seem to enjoy the misguided belief we are offended by the comments on here Actually the majority of people know others may have different views and can still communicate, discuss about things they disagree on but still remain civil and while we may not like or understand the viewpoint we can accept people views without being offended or going into shock about them. Because we don't have the arrogance to think only we know best. Someone upthread said they were offended, so "misguided" is incorrect. Other than that, there's no point in responding to an ad hominen attack. I didn't say anything about whether or not I would find that offensive or not and haven't even expressed a opinion about whether or not I would consider myself a Royalist. My point was that it's a bit hypocritical to point out that you find the National Anthem offensive but then think the solution is to cause offence to those who respect it by your booing. I would also like to add in the interest of balance that I have met many Liverpool fans on overseas trips following England and all are incredibly proud of the Anthem and sing it loud and proud. A common theme of conversation is also how embarrassing they find those who boo it at Liverpool games especially those who are 'Woolies' jumping on a bandwagon. Further to another observation you made about Celtic, they are one of the most represented fanbases in the Armed forces and although some may find themselves in that situation through economic necessity and limited job options, many are proud to represent King and Country. No group of fans should be painted as stereotypes because the truth can, and often is, very different. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 12:54:13 GMT
The Referendum in 2016 and the General Election in 2019 - when we were told there had occurred a 'Youth Quake' which had swept Labour to Power - should have been the moments where everyone stopped considering Social Media as anything but a huge echo chamber to be fair... The Monarchy isn't going anywhere because most people support the concept and history shows that a sizable amount of those youngsters who currently don't want it will shift their opinion. Can you source this view? These days, I'd say the actual majority are just indifferent, and unable to source an alternative could give much of an eff either way. Thats the overriding view within my echo chamber atleast. Every poll ever taken by a major polling organisation has put 'in favour of the Monarchy' far above the Republicans. The nadir of polling for the former was 55%, the zenith of the latter, 33%. The latest poll is: Keep the Monarchy - 62% Abolish - 25% Don't know - 12% I think it is easy to get wrapped up in echo chambers and think the pervading view within those groups is how the country thinks - 2016 and 2019 was definitely an eye opener for many - but that's why it's important, in my opinion, to broaden our social circles to include those with contrasting views and not to only follow people we agree with on Twitter and other social media. |
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Post by mkb on May 5, 2023 18:55:04 GMT
Someone upthread said they were offended, so "misguided" is incorrect. Other than that, there's no point in responding to an ad hominen attack. I didn't say anything about whether or not I would find that offensive or not and haven't even expressed a opinion about whether or not I would consider myself a Royalist. My point was that it's a bit hypocritical to point out that you find the National Anthem offensive but then think the solution is to cause offence to those who respect it by your booing. I would also like to add in the interest of balance that I have met many Liverpool fans on overseas trips following England and all are incredibly proud of the Anthem and sing it loud and proud. A common theme of conversation is also how embarrassing they find those who boo it at Liverpool games especially those who are 'Woolies' jumping on a bandwagon. Further to another observation you made about Celtic, they are one of the most represented fanbases in the Armed forces and although some may find themselves in that situation through economic necessity and limited job options, many are proud to represent King and Country. No group of fans should be painted as stereotypes because the truth can, and often is, very different. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find the odd LFC fan who is a Tory too. Very much a tiny minority in Liverpool, even more so amongst Reds. I don't remember ever mentioning Celtic. Where was that? On the offence point, what I should have said was: Someone upthread said some people were offended, so "misguided" is incorrect. |
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Post by Mr Snow on May 5, 2023 21:09:46 GMT
I don't think the POTUS is a relevant comparison. That power is not even "officially" given to the king. As the article states Trump gave less pardons than any modern President, proving once again how inefficient he was.😉 I know what it says. The point was he didn't use the power unless he was paid to use the power. I was trying to be funny. Doh! This power is widely abused, can't recall the detail but Clinton's list doesn't read well. Do any? If the founding fathers or whoever came up with it only knew how it would turn out...Strange rule. |
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Post by Mr Snow on May 5, 2023 21:20:18 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65448709Real gold cloak. So 2023. I'm a member of a charity where everyone stood aside as Edward suddenly decided he should be parachuted in for the top position. He then attended one dinner and now sends an annual letter saying 'keep up the good work' in about 75 words. Its one of hundreds of similar honourable titles he holds. Today that charity emailed me asking for a donation £50 towards the cost of a present for Chas and Cam on this happy occasion, to decorate Sandringham. Not only that, the Billionaire gets to approve the design of his present before its made. Words fail me. This subservience and obsequience has to stop!!!! Its 2023!
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Post by theglenbucklaird on May 5, 2023 21:22:08 GMT
I didn't say anything about whether or not I would find that offensive or not and haven't even expressed a opinion about whether or not I would consider myself a Royalist. My point was that it's a bit hypocritical to point out that you find the National Anthem offensive but then think the solution is to cause offence to those who respect it by your booing. I would also like to add in the interest of balance that I have met many Liverpool fans on overseas trips following England and all are incredibly proud of the Anthem and sing it loud and proud. A common theme of conversation is also how embarrassing they find those who boo it at Liverpool games especially those who are 'Woolies' jumping on a bandwagon. Further to another observation you made about Celtic, they are one of the most represented fanbases in the Armed forces and although some may find themselves in that situation through economic necessity and limited job options, many are proud to represent King and Country. No group of fans should be painted as stereotypes because the truth can, and often is, very different. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you can find the odd LFC fan who is a Tory too. Very much a tiny minority in Liverpool, even more so amongst Reds. I don't remember ever mentioning Celtic. Where was that? On the offence point, what I should have said was: Someone upthread said some people were offended, so "misguided" is incorrect. Why Liverpool fans more than Everton? Just not my experience |
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 5, 2023 22:55:31 GMT
So many police about tonight in Central London, must be quite galling to all those people who actually need one ie victims of burglary, mugging, domestic violence etc ...
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Post by karloscar on May 6, 2023 8:15:31 GMT
Wandering through the poshest part of Edinburgh one solitary doorway had a forlorn looking string of union jack bunting around the door, the only non-commercial bit of coronation tat on display anywhere. Just about sums things up.
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Post by vdcni on May 6, 2023 8:28:13 GMT
Republican protestors arrested before they had even started their peaceful protest.
Outrageous but sadly all too predictable. I'm sure all the right wing free speech brigade will be rushing along to defend their right to protest, any minute now surely.
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Post by talkingheads on May 6, 2023 8:50:56 GMT
Republican protestors arrested before they had even started their peaceful protest. Outrageous but sadly all too predictable. I'm sure all the right wing free speech brigade will be rushing along to defend their right to protest, any minute now surely. We truly are a fascist state. Absolutely abhorrent. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 6, 2023 8:54:03 GMT
The music is fantastic, and Pretty Yende singing wonderfully while wearing that huge yellow creation… fabulous.
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Post by alece10 on May 6, 2023 10:09:18 GMT
The music is fantastic, and Pretty Yende singing wonderfully while wearing that huge yellow creation… fabulous. Agree, the music is wonderful. Wonder if the Coronation music will be released on CD after. |
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Post by Jon on May 6, 2023 10:40:39 GMT
Have to admit, I'm mostly watching for both the crowning itself and to see the people who were invited, spotted Ant and Dec and ALW already.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 6, 2023 11:19:38 GMT
ALW’s Make A Joyful Noise is giving me very strong Marry For Love vibes. Recycling again Andy?
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Post by richey on May 6, 2023 11:29:19 GMT
ALW’s Make A Joyful Noise is giving me very strong Marry For Love vibes. Recycling again Andy? i was trying to think what it reminded me of. Definite recycling in there and unmistakably ALW |
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