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Post by chernjam on May 3, 2023 12:45:27 GMT
Honestly they've lost credibility and relevance at this point. I remember when Sunset revived a few years ago and it also received 0 nominations, which was ridiculous. I can see some of the snubs, but surely some of the performers/performances; set, lighting design deserved some recognition. And sorry/not sorry - I haven't seen the show, but still enjoy the score that ALW could've at least been acknowledged. I for one hope they do film it. If they did By Jeeves, why not? You’ve not seen the show but the Tony Awards have lost credibility? That seems like a well informed opinion… Didn't realize the snark factor had infected this board as badly as others... If you read the second sentence it helps explain the point of the first. That's usually how paragraphs work. I havent seen Bad Cinderella and wasn't saying it deserved a slew of nominations. But from what I've seen and heard, there were some obvious creatives involved that should have been recognized
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Post by magnificentdonkey on May 5, 2023 2:46:51 GMT
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Post by christya on May 5, 2023 10:21:30 GMT
Well...the dress is pretty?
I'm genuinely puzzled as to how this is a Broadway performance. She's literally gasping for breath halfway through a sentence.
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Post by SuttonPeron on May 5, 2023 11:40:05 GMT
I know I have a heart was the best part of the London production. They´ve ruined it completely with this new orchestration.
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Post by cezbear on May 5, 2023 12:15:30 GMT
Is the alternate Cinderella any stronger than Linedy vocally? Assuming they have one? That's not the most flattering clip of her.
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Post by viserys on May 5, 2023 12:50:59 GMT
Is the alternate Cinderella any stronger than Linedy vocally? Assuming they have one? That's not the most flattering clip of her. Yes, Savy Jackson plays the lead every Sunday. Not sure if she's better though...
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Post by magnificentdonkey on May 10, 2023 4:37:53 GMT
Why, oh, why couldn't they stream the whole show like this? Or at least the whole Act 2? They certainly seem to have the technology.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2023 4:46:35 GMT
Fun… fun! FUNNNNN!
Cringe 😖
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Post by viserys on May 10, 2023 5:18:11 GMT
Why, oh, why couldn't they stream the whole show like this? Or at least the whole Act 2? They certainly seem to have the technology. LOL, and kill off what little interest there is in buying tickets? Last week's grosses were abysmal. I don't think this will sell tickets either; they should have streamed one of the songs that are real fun and make this version of Cinderella different from others. On a personal note: Why is nobody telling Jordan Dobson to shave? He looks like he was fished from the gutter, not at all princely. Ivano Turco at least was utterly dreamy, so we could kind of root for Sebastian if not for Cindy herself.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2023 5:40:37 GMT
At least they’ve not put Linedy in that godawful ball gown and crooked wig that CHF had to wear.
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Post by karloscar on May 10, 2023 8:20:23 GMT
Y'all, is all that pseudo enthusiasm and horrific gushing supposed to convince us they're literally having the best time EVAH? Clearly they all hate each other and can't wait to move on. Post the closing notice now, for their sakes as much as ours!
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Post by christya on May 10, 2023 10:10:27 GMT
"It's almost like we're doing a high school musical..." (realises error instantly and attempts to correct, too late)
Funny he should say that, I actually think this would do a roaring trade out for amateur rights. Any amateur company can summon up the cast for this fairly easily and it probably would genuinely be fun (sorry, couldn't resist) to do.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 10, 2023 11:24:41 GMT
If the ball scene is supposed to be the pinnacle of the show then the rest of it must be very underwhelming. And what a strange song in that second part (after the first part where the audience didn’t applaud). All very awkward.
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Post by d'James on May 10, 2023 11:52:11 GMT
I liked the enthusiasm from the presenter, although, what’s a syphluencer?
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Post by marob on May 10, 2023 12:58:05 GMT
Interesting. Theatre is always a bit flat on-screen, but this makes me appreciate how much the London cast carried the show (no pun intended.) And without the revolving stalls seats it’s just a bit of pointless padding. And if they’re selling it as a different take on Cinderella it’s a bit of a mistake to cut away right before the joke that she is immediately rejected by him too. d'James something to do with them spreading safe sex messages after catching syphilis.
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Post by d'James on May 10, 2023 13:00:24 GMT
Interesting. Theatre is always a bit flat on-screen, but this makes me appreciate how much the London cast carried the show (no pun intended.) d’James something to do with them spreading safe sex messages after catching syphilis. OK. Interesting, thanks.
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Post by steve10086 on May 10, 2023 15:54:59 GMT
Why, oh, why couldn't they stream the whole show like this? Or at least the whole Act 2? They certainly seem to have the technology. But is it FUN?Are you having FUN? - bearing in mind so were the passengers on the Titanic till it hit an iceberg. Nobody expected Titanic to sink. Everybody expected Bad Cinderella to sink.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2023 16:18:14 GMT
I imagine union rules and contracts may prohibit broadcasting much more than this.
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Post by max on May 10, 2023 19:49:01 GMT
"I feel like I'm the favourite dish at A buffet"
Because A is clearly the most important word in the sentence, and must be stressed.....
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Post by CG on the loose on May 10, 2023 23:48:27 GMT
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Post by marob on May 10, 2023 23:48:49 GMT
Final performance on 4th June.
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Post by teamyali on May 11, 2023 1:03:13 GMT
This is it. It’s official. Initially Playbill leaked the news early then took it down, now it’s already confirmed.
Cinderella West End at least lasted almost a year (though there were hiccups including Miss Rona still spreading throughout Christmas season and so there were no shows, and ALW trying to retool the show again)…
Just so sad for the cast and crew. They deserve better.
Meanwhile, the musical book’s writer Emerald Fennell is still radio silent. She has an upcoming film, Saltburn, that could be scheduled for the Venice Film Festival should it be submitted and accepted there this fall. The media circuit begins again…
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 11, 2023 1:11:57 GMT
The cast and crew knew what they were getting into. They had to have been aware of how it was received in London and everything else that happened.
Yes, they were clearly promised rewrites and a better version. But there is always a limit to what rewrites can achieve.
No one wants a show to fail, but this has to be one of the least unexpected fails
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Post by andypandy on May 11, 2023 7:22:28 GMT
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Post by andypandy on May 11, 2023 7:28:34 GMT
I have been a huge ALW fan since my childhood. He in my opinion has written some of the best musicals ever and indeed has written some of the best songs. Even some of the songs in Bad Cinderella are excellent but the whole idea, book, look and message of the show was a mess from the beginning. I don’t know why they didn’t see that from the workshop at The Other Palace in 2019/20 when they staged the industry performance.
I hated the London production but inside, somewhere, with a completely written story, half a new score, and a new BOOK - Bad Cinderella could and should be a good show. Without half the score being thrown out, it will always sadly be BAD. That and a weak story that actually makes no sense.
This belongs to fly into the memories of musicals like Stephen Ward.
Now what is Andrew’s next show?!!
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Post by viserys on May 11, 2023 8:15:14 GMT
That could have been written by me ^
Just glad its being put out of its misery.
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Post by oxfordsimon on May 11, 2023 8:15:56 GMT
Stephen Ward was flawed but I still listen to the CD from time to time.
I have yet to manage to listen to the Cinderella recording all the way through
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Post by SuttonPeron on May 11, 2023 10:38:56 GMT
I can only hope ALW learns his lesson, and never focuses on making theatre for "the theatre kids" again. Much better to make a solid show that anyone can enjoy.
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Post by westendcub on May 11, 2023 12:03:31 GMT
Feeling so sad for all involved, I simply adore this show!
Seems I have a fairy godmother though as I fly in to NYC in the morning of 3 June & I’m now booked to go on the Saturday night!!
I’m going to the ball!
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Post by ceebee on May 11, 2023 12:46:59 GMT
Feeling so sad for all involved, I simply adore this show! Seems I have a fairy godmother though as I fly in to NYC in the morning of 3 June & I’m now booked to go on the Saturday night!! I’m going to the ball! Far too late to sing a love song...
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