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Post by steve10086 on Apr 27, 2023 7:13:14 GMT
Another official clip from the show to help compare the 2 productions Thanks. Now I want it professionally filmed and released to the public What have the public done to deserve that?
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Post by jgblunners on Apr 27, 2023 8:33:37 GMT
Another official clip from the show to help compare the 2 productions
What a bizarre clip to use! I love Carolee but I don’t think this is a good scene to film for promo.
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Post by annette on Apr 27, 2023 13:18:37 GMT
Since when did ‘Girl Power’ mean women belittling/insulting other women? If this is the work of the new PR company the producers have hired,I’d say they may have made the wrong choice.
Clearly they’re hoping a clip featuring CC might put more bums on seats, but the extract of that song is the equivalent of nails down a blackboard.
The powers-that-be must have taken the unilateral decision to hide the names Bialystock & Bloom from the list of producers on this show.
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Post by viserys on Apr 27, 2023 16:42:46 GMT
Since when did ‘Girl Power’ mean women belittling/insulting other women The main problem is that this excerpt is deadly dull and unfunny. Why not use an excerpt of "I know you" where the Stepmother and the Queen tear into each other cheekily and as equals?
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Post by couldileaveyou on Apr 27, 2023 16:43:36 GMT
No love from the Drama Desk Award either
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Post by magnificentdonkey on Apr 27, 2023 23:49:05 GMT
Thanks. Now I want it professionally filmed and released to the public What have the public done to deserve that? What have the public done to deserve any of the existing professionally filmed shows?
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Post by d'James on Apr 28, 2023 1:22:29 GMT
Another official clip from the show to help compare the 2 productions
What a bizarre clip to use! I love Carolee but I don’t think this is a good scene to film for promo. Very odd.
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 28, 2023 6:01:03 GMT
What have the public done to deserve that? What have the public done to deserve any of the existing professionally filmed shows? Whoosh
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Post by anthony on Apr 28, 2023 6:07:16 GMT
Linedy Genao put on Instagram that she had an audition yesterday... this surely means that Bad Cinderella isn't going to last much longer?
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Post by magnificentdonkey on Apr 28, 2023 6:27:17 GMT
What have the public done to deserve any of the existing professionally filmed shows? Whoosh Oh, so you've meant your previous comment as a joke? As in 'what have I done to deserve such cruelty'? {Spoiler - click to view} I'm sorry, not being a native speaker makes it hard for me to get some things sometimes. Actually, I had to google 'whoosh', and only after I've read the definition at urbandictionary has it all finally made sense to me... or so I believe.
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Post by steve10086 on Apr 28, 2023 9:28:12 GMT
Oh, so you've meant your previous comment as a joke? As in 'what have I done to deserve such cruelty'? {Spoiler - click to view} I'm sorry, not being a native speaker makes it hard for me to get some things sometimes. Actually, I had to google 'whoosh', and only after I've read the definition at urbandictionary has it all finally made sense to me... or so I believe. Yes, and don’t be sorry
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Post by BVM on Apr 28, 2023 14:51:14 GMT
Wouldn’t read too much into the SM team releasing that clip. They post absolutely constantly so it’s really one of millions and I expect minimal thought or intent went in to it.
Though I agree there’s much better clips!
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Post by BVM on Apr 28, 2023 14:53:14 GMT
Another official clip from the show to help compare the 2 productions Thanks. Now I want it professionally filmed and released to the public Me too! Diana got one. And a CD! In a way I think it’s more important for short lived shows to preserve them. Otherwise 10/20/30 years later, sometimes it’s like - did that really happen? (Plus while it is there, NYC is an expensive and far away place for repeat visits…)
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Post by couldileaveyou on May 2, 2023 14:11:49 GMT
And no love from the Tony Awards either
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Post by viserys on May 2, 2023 14:21:48 GMT
Definitely an element of snubbing involved when two shows that have long closed get nominated for Best Score above BC (although I'm happy that Almost Famous got acknowledged; I love that score more than most new shows of the season).
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Post by mattnyc on May 2, 2023 14:30:27 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised to see “ZERO TONY NOMINATIONS” plastered on the theater by tomorrow evening.
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Post by viserys on May 2, 2023 14:38:07 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised to see “ZERO TONY NOMINATIONS” plastered on the theater by tomorrow evening. Their Social Media snarked in the YouTube chat that "it was an honor to not be nominated" which struck me as ... odd. But not odder than most of their SM campaign tbf
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Post by mattnyc on May 2, 2023 15:03:38 GMT
I wouldn’t be surprised to see “ZERO TONY NOMINATIONS” plastered on the theater by tomorrow evening. Their Social Media snarked in the YouTube chat that "it was an honor to not be nominated" which struck me as ... odd. But not odder than most of their SM campaign tbf Their social media is “badder” than their Bad Cinderella.
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Post by couldileaveyou on May 2, 2023 15:21:37 GMT
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Post by marob on May 2, 2023 17:41:49 GMT
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Post by chernjam on May 2, 2023 18:01:34 GMT
Honestly they've lost credibility and relevance at this point. I remember when Sunset revived a few years ago and it also received 0 nominations, which was ridiculous. I can see some of the snubs, but surely some of the performers/performances; set, lighting design deserved some recognition. And sorry/not sorry - I haven't seen the show, but still enjoy the score that ALW could've at least been acknowledged.
I for one hope they do film it. If they did By Jeeves, why not?
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 19:48:40 GMT
Definitely an element of snubbing involved when two shows that have long closed get nominated for Best Score above BC (although I'm happy that Almost Famous got acknowledged; I love that score more than most new shows of the season).
Not really. Closed shows often receive nominations. Tony nominators are obligated to consider the whole season, not just shows that still are running. Lots of nominations for plays that long closed as well.
And it always makes me chuckle when awards are said to have lost relevance because people's favorites did not get nominated. If they are not very relevant than why care so much?
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Post by viserys on May 2, 2023 20:55:28 GMT
And it always makes me chuckle when awards are said to have lost relevance because people's favorites did not get nominated. If they are not very relevant than why care so much? I didn't say that - I don't like (Bad) Cinderella much, I thought the book was awful (and nothing was fixed on the way to Broadway) and the lyrics are banal and trite, which I think may have cost them the "score" nomination. I "care" as much as I care for the Tonys every year, namely hardly at all. Though in fact I've been paying a bit more attention now because I'm in New York in June and have to decide whether to book some shows ahead now or wait for TKTS/Discounts, which may be tricky if shows that sell badly right now, clean up the major awards and get a boost that sees them disappear from TKTS for a while. I just find the complete snub towards the show and ALW very obvious this year; just as chernjam said above, at least a few minor ones like costumes should have been possible.
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Post by stuartmcd on May 2, 2023 22:58:07 GMT
Honestly they've lost credibility and relevance at this point. I remember when Sunset revived a few years ago and it also received 0 nominations, which was ridiculous. I can see some of the snubs, but surely some of the performers/performances; set, lighting design deserved some recognition. And sorry/not sorry - I haven't seen the show, but still enjoy the score that ALW could've at least been acknowledged. I for one hope they do film it. If they did By Jeeves, why not? You’ve not seen the show but the Tony Awards have lost credibility? That seems like a well informed opinion…
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Post by karloscar on May 3, 2023 7:27:53 GMT
It's been a busy season with a lot of new shows and prominent revivals so the competition across all categories is fierce. Nobody's entitled to a nomination based on their reputation or previous work. You've gotta come up with the goods! BC clearly failed to do so.
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Post by sukhavati on May 3, 2023 9:40:32 GMT
I am a little disappointed for Gabriela Tylesova. I think she's an inventive, unique, maximalist designer and I was hoping she'd be acknowledged. Honestly, the production designer has to go with the brief they're given and if the overall concept clashed with judging panel expectations of what a Cinderella could or should be, not unexpected. Michael Crawford long ago told me that the Tony nominations are very political in New York, and there's resistance to some productions that originate elsewhere. I think Marianne Elliott is on the good side of the theatre community in NY, whereas ALW has made a lot of money for American partners, but if Cinders is not a good show, is this really a surprise? Had some friends see "Some Like it Hot" last week, and they loved it but refused to waste any money on Bad Cinderella.
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Post by BVM on May 3, 2023 10:30:08 GMT
Thinking about "caring" about awards I really don't - it's all highly subjective and vast majority of my fave shows from the big (Starlight, Aspects, Chess, Bat) to the smaller (the iconic Moby Dick at The Piccadilly) have been fully snubbed over the years! So I am 100% used to my taste not being the same as the awards bodies.
What I DO care about though, is that in America particularly they seem to hold power to change shows sales for better or for worse (am glad that in the UK this is much less the case). I therefore kinda think they have a responsibility to be fair.
Forgetting the question of are they biased against ALW (I think they are FWIW) it is very common to see awards bodies deciding whether they like something or not and then the same shows getting nominated for everything or nothing. For example if you are nominated for best musical, there is then a far higher chance of you being nominated for best sound, lighting, set etc etc than if you aren't. I don't feel as if all the categories are judged in their own right (I guess you may say that is a good thing, theatre is a whole and when it comes together is greater than the sum of it's parts).
Returning to Bad Cinderella, when I was over there I went thrice on one weekend (don't @ me lol) sitting a combination of centre/side, near/far, high/low and the sound was pristine in every spot of the theatre. I mean God knows how they decide on sound design noms but it's worthy. The lighting design is gorgeous as is the set design - entirely subjective I guess - but combined with the costumes it looks great IMHO. Compared to some of the minimalist stuff that has got noms.....
So yes, whilst I don't care per-se, I do find it slightly unfair that this across the board snub will hasten it's demise whereas a couple of noms could have boosted it a bit.
Finally Carolee and Grace are stunning but they spar off each other - wouldn't have wanted to see one nominated without the other. And I guess in a crowded field they were never both gonna appear.
There are some vague rumours about stunt casting. Either that or the closing announcement will surely come very soon!
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Post by steve10086 on May 3, 2023 11:03:55 GMT
Bad Cinderella has been “snubbed” at the Tonys in the same way I was “snubbed” in the New Year Honours List! 🤣
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Post by Jon on May 3, 2023 11:11:02 GMT
I find it amusing that people want this to be filmed and released, the chances of it happening are zilch.
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