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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 24, 2021 18:47:56 GMT
I think that perhaps, Covid aside, you may need to get some form of help in order to deal with your situation. It sounds like an issue that isn't going to go away even if Covid does, and there are many resources out there focusing on helping people in your position. Maybe visit your GP or refer yourself to counselling services? I was having therapy (CBT) 6 years ago, during the course of which I was diagnosed with Asperger's. The therapy was then stopped as apparently it doesn't work for people with Asperger's. I really don't think the NHS are interested.
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Post by The Matthew on Jul 24, 2021 20:21:31 GMT
I went to Sainsbury's this morning and almost everyone was wearing masks, and then I went out to have lunch in a pub and it was exactly as maskful as the last time I went there a month ago. Only a small sample, I know, but Freedom Day seems to have been a bit of a damp squib.
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Post by sfsusan on Jul 24, 2021 22:00:11 GMT
I really don't think the NHS are interested. Contact your GP and see what they suggest.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 24, 2021 22:30:49 GMT
I really don't think the NHS are interested. Contact your GP and see what they suggest. I spoke to my GP last month, when my mother was in hospital for the 3rd time (out of 4) & I was finding it very difficult to cope. All he suggested was medication, which I firmly rejected given the last time I tried it, 11 years ago, I only managed 4 days before stopping it as it made me feel worse rather than better.
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Post by sfsusan on Jul 24, 2021 23:47:42 GMT
All he suggested was medication Oh dear. Is there no way to get a second opinion or a referral for a psychology consultation? Would Samaritans be able to help or are they crisis counseling only? (Sorry, I'm an American so I'm not familiar with NHS operational details. I'm in a bureaucratic Health Maintenance Organization in the US (a large non-profit health-care provider), and even they have ways to escalate an issue.) If not, could the GP suggest a different medication (or different dosage) which might have a better result?
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Post by kathryn on Jul 25, 2021 0:24:11 GMT
Contact your GP and see what they suggest. I spoke to my GP last month, when my mother was in hospital for the 3rd time (out of 4) & I was finding it very difficult to cope. All he suggested was medication, which I firmly rejected given the last time I tried it, 11 years ago, I only managed 4 days before stopping it as it made me feel worse rather than better. Worth trying again - now they know you have Aspergers there may well be different medication they would prescribe that could work better.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jul 25, 2021 0:32:16 GMT
Dawn I feel for you.
I can’t tell you anything, that no one else has, except the vaccine looks to be very successful, no one thought this a year ago and Covid numbers is on a downward spiral. Someone once said to me that ‘worry is like a rocking chair, it does a lot of work, but ultimately doesn’t go anywhere.’
Covid is now a pandemic in the unvaccinated only.
Anyway a big hug and take care of yourself.
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Post by sph on Jul 25, 2021 1:38:28 GMT
Contact your GP and see what they suggest. I spoke to my GP last month, when my mother was in hospital for the 3rd time (out of 4) & I was finding it very difficult to cope. All he suggested was medication, which I firmly rejected given the last time I tried it, 11 years ago, I only managed 4 days before stopping it as it made me feel worse rather than better. It's always worth another try or even a different doctor. As for medication, it can be very successful but it does take a few weeks for it to start having some effect I'm afraid.
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Post by Rory on Jul 25, 2021 10:03:30 GMT
Dawn, I really feel for you. Look after yourself and know that there is someone out there who will be able to help you, you may not just have found them yet.
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Post by properjob on Jul 25, 2021 11:53:55 GMT
Dawn, please don't give up on getting help, there is lots of different talking therapies and lots of different medications out there but it might take a few goes to find the right one or even combination for you. To me as an outsider it does sound like the NHS is wanting to work through that journey with you, they suggested CBT as that helps most people but once they found out, with you, that it wasn't right for you they stopped it but I'm sure they will have something else they want to try with you next. You may need to try a few things and they may take a while to see if they are working. But please keep trying. If the problem is you aren't getting on with your GP ask to see a different one.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 25, 2021 16:50:51 GMT
Thank you everyone for your comments but I feel I am derailing this thread rather so we'd probably better return to covid rather than my considerable mental problems, which were around long before covid & have merely been made a bit worse by it. I'm sure the NHS is extremely busy with other people whose need is greater than mine so I don't intend to try to get anything from them at the moment. In case anyone is worried, I will not be imminently topping myself (unless my mother suddenly gets & dies of covid). As I said to the doctor when he asked if I had suicidal thoughts, "It's not so much thoughts as a long term plan".
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 25, 2021 18:25:56 GMT
As much as everyone’s very well meaning advice for Dawnstar is appreciated, this is not the place. Let’s move on now please.
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Post by Mark on Jul 25, 2021 18:29:51 GMT
For anyone following case numbers in the U.K., there is now a distinct downward curve. Slightly lower testing numbers don’t account for the more dramatic drop in cases.
Hopefully it will continue on this downward trajectory.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jul 25, 2021 18:55:05 GMT
It’s good seeing the numbers reducing, I have one question which I have not seen discussed.
From what I read a lot of school kids were being tested as part of controlling infection in schools, as the schools closed sometime last week the numbers of school age children being tested would have significantly reduced and is this what is being seen in the reducing numbers? as the drop has coincided with schools closing for the summer.
Good thing is children are now at home thus this infection pool should reduce and hopefully not be replaced by the adults mixing more freely.
Suppose all we can do is wait to see the numbers from the end of next week to get the true impact of removing restrictions.
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Post by firefingers on Jul 25, 2021 19:18:00 GMT
It’s good seeing the numbers reducing, I have one question which I have not seen discussed. From what I read a lot of school kids were being tested as part of controlling infection in schools, as the schools closed sometime last week the numbers of school age children being tested would have significantly reduced and is this what is being seen in the reducing numbers? as the drop has coincided with schools closing for the summer. Good thing is children are now at home thus this infection pool should reduce and hopefully not be replaced by the adults mixing more freely. Suppose all we can do is wait to see the numbers from the end of next week to get the true impact of removing restrictions. We are seeing a big drop in cases but only a small drop in testing, suggesting the schools could only be a small part of the puzzle. Scotland started diving a week or so after they exited the euros, England has done the same, so it could have been busy pubs and stadia that were driving cases up? Also Scottish schools broke up earlier so another factor could be less so with the testing and more so with schools no longer being a vector to allow covid to be shared.
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Post by The Matthew on Jul 25, 2021 19:28:28 GMT
Suppose all we can do is wait to see the numbers from the end of next week to get the true impact of removing restrictions. Given that by many accounts a lot of people are continuing to behave much the same as they were before the 19th I'm not expecting there to be much of an effect.
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Post by peggs on Jul 25, 2021 21:08:46 GMT
Went into London yesterday and was about 50% in masks on train and in theatre which was better than I'd expected to be honest.
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Post by zahidf on Jul 25, 2021 21:23:11 GMT
For anyone following case numbers in the U.K., there is now a distinct downward curve. Slightly lower testing numbers don’t account for the more dramatic drop in cases. Hopefully it will continue on this downward trajectory. Yup. 5 days in a row of massive drops in case numbers. Fingers crossed this continues.
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Post by greeny11 on Jul 26, 2021 5:47:17 GMT
Mask wearing generally was better than I expected throughout my London trip. With regards to shows I saw, mask wearing was best at Come From Away and worst at Six. All shows I saw had regular reminders about masks and keeping safe.
With regards to public transport, I was really pleasantly surprised by how many people wore masks on the Tube. It wasn't perfect, and one evening we had a drunk man say 'Psst, you know it's freedom day, you don't have to wear a mask', which was pretty mild but he was speaking to an otherwise fully masked carriage. However, I would say from the trains I was on, about 75-80% people were wearing masks. It was pretty similar on the Avanti trains I took - pretty good considering it's a much longer journey than a typical tube journey.
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Post by fluxcapacitor on Jul 26, 2021 7:35:38 GMT
Went into London yesterday and was about 50% in masks on train and in theatre which was better than I'd expected to be honest. I'd say you had some bad luck on that journey. I've been using the tube again now regularly for a few weeks, and have been pleasantly surprised with the mask wearing situation - easily 70% of people are still doing it in general. It obviously varies from carriage to carriage, but in my experience I'd definitely say there's a majority of people still wearing masks and being aware of social distancing (not sitting next to people etc.) I do think the weekend/tourist crowd brings down the average, though. Being on holiday must make you immune
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Post by jojo on Jul 26, 2021 10:35:09 GMT
It’s good seeing the numbers reducing, I have one question which I have not seen discussed. From what I read a lot of school kids were being tested as part of controlling infection in schools, as the schools closed sometime last week the numbers of school age children being tested would have significantly reduced and is this what is being seen in the reducing numbers? as the drop has coincided with schools closing for the summer. Good thing is children are now at home thus this infection pool should reduce and hopefully not be replaced by the adults mixing more freely. Suppose all we can do is wait to see the numbers from the end of next week to get the true impact of removing restrictions. Yes, around here loads of cases were among men who had travelled in large groups singing and hugging their way to London and back again and then their close contacts. Schools seemed to be a source of a lot of positive cases too, and there was a big, fairly swift drop in cases once we left the Euros and the school holidays started. The drop is less dramatic now so it will be interesting to see how it continues with some relaxing of restrictions as the vaccinated population grows. What we should have learned from the different variants, and presumably applies to the lessening of restrictions is that it's not just about the direction of the headline figure. While our numbers were shooting up once Alpha became dominant, headline figures were dropping in a lot of Europe, that was really a reduction in the original variant masking the early stages of exponential rise in Alpha cases, as their restrictions were not enough to keep the R0 of Alpha below 1. If we break the population into different groups and consider activities, transmission between school kids is reduced, and transmission from watching football in pubs will be reduced. Hopefully all that and most people still wearing masks, will be enough to balance out the increases from relaxing the rules until most people can be fully vaccinated. Parents of school age children not going into work should help a bit too.
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Post by peggs on Jul 26, 2021 11:58:28 GMT
Went into London yesterday and was about 50% in masks on train and in theatre which was better than I'd expected to be honest. I'd say you had some bad luck on that journey. I've been using the tube again now regularly for a few weeks, and have been pleasantly surprised with the mask wearing situation - easily 70% of people are still doing it in general. It obviously varies from carriage to carriage, but in my experience I'd definitely say there's a majority of people still wearing masks and being aware of social distancing (not sitting next to people etc.) I do think the weekend/tourist crowd brings down the average, though. Being on holiday must make you immune This was trains rather than tube so optional rather than required. There were no mask signs at all that I saw at the theatre though staff were all masked, they were back to holding up please turn off your phone signs. I have to admit every time one of my nephew/nieces comes up close I wonder if they've got it.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 26, 2021 14:18:38 GMT
At the weekend I went to an event called, Queer on the pier in Hastings. Fantastic day and night of drag and dancing. Since, I have questioned if it was the right thing to do but it was outside and on pier! ... Thankfully my covid test has come back negative. I guess this is what living with the virus is all about.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Jul 26, 2021 20:03:46 GMT
I have admit I'm doing one PCR test a week (at work, so it's a bit random depending on the days I go in) and two LFTs but I've given up logging the LFTs (obviously I would if it were positive).
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Post by gingerB on Jul 27, 2021 15:39:37 GMT
the tests required to enter theatres and other venues, are the ones we can get from the NHS , ie home lateral flows.. or do they have to be those you have to pay like the ones required for travelling? I'm confused about this
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Post by Mark on Jul 27, 2021 15:44:46 GMT
the tests required to enter theatres and other venues, are the ones we can get from the NHS , ie home lateral flows.. or do they have to be those you have to pay like the ones required for travelling? I'm confused about this It’s the home tests you can get for free.
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Post by gingerB on Jul 27, 2021 15:54:22 GMT
the tests required to enter theatres and other venues, are the ones we can get from the NHS , ie home lateral flows.. or do they have to be those you have to pay like the ones required for travelling? I'm confused about this It’s the home tests you can get for free. thank you !
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Post by ceebee on Aug 26, 2021 8:21:44 GMT
I think folk need to accept that risk management is now a personal responsibility rather than something that should be mandated by government, theatres or other organisations. If people feel uncomfortable with the Covid risk, either take the precautions that work for you or simply avoid public gatherings.
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Post by Jan on Aug 26, 2021 8:39:36 GMT
The Barbican have been the absolute worst venue for all Covid protocols. No signs requesting that people wear masks (not demanding but all other venues have 'we strongly ask that...') and no Covid checks at all... When I was there I'd estimate about 10-20% of the audience wore masks. People have made their own decisions - signs aren't going to change that. Having said that I did see signs there requesting masks. No theatre I've been to since reopening has had any Covid checks at all.
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Post by poster J on Aug 26, 2021 8:42:31 GMT
I think folk need to accept that risk management is now a personal responsibility rather than something that should be mandated by government, theatres or other organisations. If people feel uncomfortable with the Covid risk, either take the precautions that work for you or simply avoid public gatherings. It should be mandated by your own social conscience, which not a lot of people seem to have at the minute given all they need to do is something that is a minor inconvenience at most. Says a lot about the people who (without a valid exemption) don't bother rather than those who do. If we aren't going to have mandatory vaccine passports then individuals must do better. Thankfully the people I was sat beside in the Barbican earlier this week (and actually quite a few people nearby) were considerate and we all wore masks.
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