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Post by isabel on Nov 23, 2021 1:25:25 GMT
I watched his speech to see what all the fuss was about. He was talking about Peppa Pig & then lost his notes having no ide what to say.
Quite bizarre
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Post by The Matthew on Nov 23, 2021 12:11:41 GMT
I saw someone else's comment on this elsewhere and the gist of what they said was: Don't be taken in. He's an expert at distraction strategies: if there's something going on he doesn't want people to notice or he wants people to forget then he'll create a trivial story to draw attention from the important story.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 23, 2021 17:37:36 GMT
I saw someone else's comment on this elsewhere and the gist of what they said was: Don't be taken in. He's an expert at distraction strategies: if there's something going on he doesn't want people to notice or he wants people to forget then he'll create a trivial story to draw attention from the important story. This Imagine having ever voted for him?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 20:17:43 GMT
I saw someone else's comment on this elsewhere and the gist of what they said was: Don't be taken in. He's an expert at distraction strategies: if there's something going on he doesn't want people to notice or he wants people to forget then he'll create a trivial story to draw attention from the important story. I believe this technique is known as dead catting. Basically you drop a dead cat into the middle of the situation and everyone only talks about the dead cat. Not 144,000 deaths. For example. So I am fairly sure Peppa Pig isn’t the real story.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Dec 17, 2021 19:40:04 GMT
Poor Boris. He must be exhausted after an awful couple of weeks of folk not focussing on the all good stuff he has done for the country
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 11, 2022 19:48:13 GMT
To answer the thread title, I bet he wish he was with Carrie Antoinette.
Listening to LBC on and off all day every presenter has been scathing of him, even the right wing/Brexit ones as were the callers who say they will never vote Tory again with him in the wheelhouse.
He will be gone, so will have plenty of time for holidays with Carrie Antoinette.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 12, 2022 8:26:52 GMT
What are the chances that Boris gets a 'surprise' positive test so doesn't turn up for PMQ's today?
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Post by zahidf on Jan 12, 2022 8:31:35 GMT
What are the chances that Boris gets a 'surprise' positive test so doesn't turn up for PMQ's today? Maybe Carrie will get pregnant again?
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 12, 2022 8:57:51 GMT
What are the chances that Boris gets a 'surprise' positive test so doesn't turn up for PMQ's today? You're going to get another Burly Bear public warning??!!
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jan 12, 2022 9:00:50 GMT
What are the chances that Boris gets a 'surprise' positive test so doesn't turn up for PMQ's today? Well as he managed yesterdays day of cowardice so well then why not another? (shouldn't this all be on a BJ thread?)
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Post by Dan213 on Jan 12, 2022 9:26:02 GMT
Times reporting that the UK will be reducing the isolation period from 7 to 5 days (after 2 negative LFTs.). Due to be signed off on Thursday Presumably this is to divert attention from the parties then... The science suggests this is incredibly risky, even with LFT testing. Following the science... Johnson Style
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 12, 2022 15:15:52 GMT
This would be the end of any other PM. I loathe the smug f***er.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 12, 2022 16:54:28 GMT
This would be the end of any other PM. I loathe the smug f***er. Imagine how bad you feel if you voted for him at the election?
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 12, 2022 18:16:48 GMT
You cannot paper over the cracks, even at £850 a roll.
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Post by The Matthew on Jan 12, 2022 18:23:33 GMT
This would be the end of any other PM. I loathe the smug f***er. Imagine how bad you feel if you voted for him at the election? I think a lot of his supporters love him because he doesn't care about following the rules.
It's not like this is anything new. This is the guy who arranged to have a journalist beaten up as a favour to a mate. He was known as someone with no respect for the truth long before he went into politics, and his time as Mayor of London and as an MP showed that he was all about manipulation, deceit and a total contempt for the law. The people who made him party leader and the people who voted that party into power knew what he was, and they were fine with it.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 13, 2022 8:35:38 GMT
Imagine how bad you feel if you voted for him at the election? I think a lot of his supporters love him because he doesn't care about following the rules.
It's not like this is anything new. This is the guy who arranged to have a journalist beaten up as a favour to a mate. He was known as someone with no respect for the truth long before he went into politics, and his time as Mayor of London and as an MP showed that he was all about manipulation, deceit and a total contempt for the law. The people who made him party leader and the people who voted that party into power knew what he was, and they were fine with it. Awful lot of people in the UK love him then. We truly are finished then
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 13, 2022 11:22:06 GMT
We are not finished.
A lot of people loved ‘B’ and not Boris but Brexit and wanted to see completed what they voted for, Boris took full advantage of this. I’m sorry to say this as a ardent remainer. All that bubbling and messy hair what endeared people to that intelligent clown, when the economy goes south with higher utility bills and higher taxes, those bubbling and messy hair will just rile people instead.
Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is.
Was it kind of ironic that Dominic Cummins’ choose to do the press conference in the Downing Street garden, when he went to Bernard Castle to test his eye sight. I think a subliminal message was sent.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 13, 2022 11:25:58 GMT
We are not finished. A lot of people loved ‘B’ and not Boris but Brexit and wanted to see completed what they voted for, Boris took full advantage of this. I’m sorry to say this as a ardent remainer. All that bubbling and messy hair what endeared people to that intelligent clown, when the economy goes south with higher utility bills and higher taxes, those bubbling and messy hair will just rile people instead. Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. Was it kind of ironic that Dominic Cummins’ choose to do the press conference in the Downing Street garden, when he went to Bernard Castle to test his eye sight. I think a subliminal message was sent. Good post
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 13, 2022 13:56:26 GMT
We are not finished. A lot of people loved ‘B’ and not Boris but Brexit and wanted to see completed what they voted for, Boris took full advantage of this. I’m sorry to say this as a ardent remainer. All that bubbling and messy hair what endeared people to that intelligent clown, when the economy goes south with higher utility bills and higher taxes, those bubbling and messy hair will just rile people instead. Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. Was it kind of ironic that Dominic Cummins’ choose to do the press conference in the Downing Street garden, when he went to Bernard Castle to test his eye sight. I think a subliminal message was sent. Cummings must have one more tasty tit bit to bring down the government
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Post by olliebean on Jan 13, 2022 22:46:15 GMT
Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. My worry is that the lower they slump in the polls, the harder they will bounce back when they finally get rid of him and put someone less obviously dreadful in charge.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Jan 14, 2022 8:55:17 GMT
We are actually entering what should have been the honeymoon period, COVID does appear to be waning and the real cost of living crisis has not reached its full impact.
They really needed a lead at this time, when the tax increases and energy increases hit in April it will become even more challenging to bounce back, at this moment in time the Conservatives needed a strong lead to weather the loss of support as we see our living expenses increase and when we look back at the last 2 years with a more critical eye.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 14, 2022 9:01:20 GMT
Labour are doing well because of the Prime Minister’s own goals, such as changing law to save a colleague, which ended up in a completely disastrous by-election, wall paper and now lockdown parties. The worry is that the Conservatives slump in the polls when Boris’ gaffes and not when the opposition oppose. As much as it is a test for Boris, it is also a bigger test how good the opposition is. My worry is that the lower they slump in the polls, the harder they will bounce back when they finally get rid of him and put someone less obviously dreadful in charge. Will the new leader be as popular in the red wall seats won at the last election? It's a dilemma
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 14, 2022 9:02:25 GMT
We are actually entering what should have been the honeymoon period, COVID does appear to be waning and the real cost of living crisis has not reached its full impact. They really needed a lead at this time, when the tax increases and energy increases hit in April it will become even more challenging to bounce back, at this moment in time the Conservatives needed a strong lead to weather the loss of support as we see our living expenses increase and when we look back at the last 2 years with a more critical eye. With all you have mentioned the government need to tell us what 'levelling out' means?
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 14, 2022 11:08:00 GMT
My worry is that the lower they slump in the polls, the harder they will bounce back when they finally get rid of him and put someone less obviously dreadful in charge. Will the new leader be as popular in the red wall seats won at the last election? It's a dilemma Boris' Red Wall and Trump's Rust Belt (Pennsylvania, Wisconsin & Michigan) are both interchangeable, both won big on the respective general election 2019 and 2016 US Presidential Election and Trump in the 2020 US Presidential election lost all and big in the Rust Belt to Biden, the same will happen to Johnson, the polls in the red wall looks especially dreadful. The 2019 election was all about Brexit and the ERG which was/is headed up by Farage/Johnson, they were wildly successful it was not what I wanted, but I do understand why people wanted to see completed what they voted for, this is why Johnson won big with older Labour supporters. I didn't like Theresa May but I would never in a million years would think she would ever dream of having parties, whilst people were having their life support machines switched off and the Queen mourning her husband. There is no such thing now as a safe Tory seat after North Staffordshire and Amersham/Chesham. But now paying £850 wallpaper, fixing the rules to save a colleague, now rules that don't apply to 'them' and partying why the Queen was mourning the loss of her husband, they now see Johnston as a entitled arse-hole.
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Post by duncan on Jan 14, 2022 12:31:08 GMT
I wouldn't consider a by election result as any indication what will happen in a GE, history has long brought us by election winners who were then right royally shanked at the following GE.
They'll back the useless alki until they get destroyed in May and then blame him and have a new leader with a new fresh outlook.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 14, 2022 13:21:49 GMT
I'm shocked. Literally nobody could have seen this coming...
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 14, 2022 13:43:22 GMT
I'm shocked. Literally nobody could have seen this coming... Forgone conclusion.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 14, 2022 20:33:21 GMT
Frankly at this point I'd be more shocked if photos emerged of them sqeezing some work in between the parties:
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Post by The Matthew on Jan 14, 2022 20:43:47 GMT
To be fair, can you blame them for turning to drink?
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Post by Marwood on Jan 14, 2022 21:39:21 GMT
Any inquiry should be held by a totally independent person, not someone on the Whitehall payroll who despite what they are labelled as are just a whitewashed shambles but I’m at the point now where I think the Conservative party is just hoping that the general publics apathy (and by general public I mean the type of people who will never read comments like these and phone up the Jeremy Vine Show to wheel out a load of crap about Andrew and how the Royal Family have been hard done by)will see them through: it’s sickening.
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