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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 27, 2020 19:25:51 GMT
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Post by The Matthew on Oct 27, 2020 19:47:21 GMT
What on earth is going on in that picture? What's he supposed to be doing with his hands? Did they forget to tell him to pick up the cutlery?
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Post by david on Oct 27, 2020 19:53:02 GMT
Is Boris thinking (that’s a bit of a long shot in any situation I know) “Your not one of my kids are you?”
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Post by Someone in a tree on Oct 27, 2020 20:45:14 GMT
Is Boris thinking (that’s a bit of a long shot in any situation I know) “Your not one of my kids are you?” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Someone in a tree on Nov 16, 2020 5:57:23 GMT
BJ goes into isolation (again) at a rather crucial time for the country. Will he also miss Sir Kier grilling in PMQ's?
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 16, 2020 8:36:27 GMT
BJ goes into isolation (again) at a rather crucial time for the country. Will he also miss Sir Kier grilling in PMQ's? There's no excuse for him not to do PMQ's via Zoom.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 16, 2020 14:43:54 GMT
BJ goes into isolation (again) at a rather crucial time for the country. Will he also miss Sir Kier grilling in PMQ's? Bit harsh that fella. Test and trace vital to us all getting back to some sort of normality
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Post by karloscar on Nov 17, 2020 11:31:17 GMT
Even in isolation Boorish is doing a grand job promoting Scottish independence. 60% support by Christmas at this rate.
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Post by Jan on Nov 17, 2020 15:21:27 GMT
BJ goes into isolation (again) at a rather crucial time for the country. Will he also miss Sir Kier grilling in PMQ's? No, he’s going to do it remotely. I don’t quite understand your other point - you want him not to follow the rules on self-isolation ?
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Post by lynette on Nov 17, 2020 16:18:47 GMT
Boris has had a test now and it was negative. So why can’t he return to work? . Mind you with the obvious lack of COVID security in no 10 I don’t blame him sticking to the flat. But if he stays ‘in isolation’ that is the wrong message to send. He should be letting us know that the testing system works. Or am I reading the rules wrongly?
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Post by Jan on Nov 17, 2020 16:30:27 GMT
Boris has had a test now and it was negative. So why can’t he return to work? . Mind you with the obvious lack of COVID security in no 10 I don’t blame him sticking to the flat. But if he stays ‘in isolation’ that is the wrong message to send. He should be letting us know that the testing system works. Or am I reading the rules wrongly? Well for a start the rules say you can only get a test if you develop symptoms. So if he’s broken that one he might as well break the rest and stop isolating. Or (better) change the rules so anyone told to self-isolate can get a test and if negative go back to work/school. Actually my guess is he’s claiming “key worker” status.
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Post by Sam on Nov 17, 2020 16:52:23 GMT
Boris has had a test now and it was negative. So why can’t he return to work? . Mind you with the obvious lack of COVID security in no 10 I don’t blame him sticking to the flat. But if he stays ‘in isolation’ that is the wrong message to send. He should be letting us know that the testing system works. Or am I reading the rules wrongly? If you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive you have to isolate for 14 days. The virus can emerge at any point within those 14 days, so getting a negative test in those circumstances really means nothing other than you aren't exhibiting the virus at that particular moment. You could test negative today but positive tomorrow. Testing is for people with symptoms to know whether they have Corona (and need to quarantine) or something else.
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Post by Jan on Nov 17, 2020 17:11:22 GMT
Boris has had a test now and it was negative. So why can’t he return to work? . Mind you with the obvious lack of COVID security in no 10 I don’t blame him sticking to the flat. But if he stays ‘in isolation’ that is the wrong message to send. He should be letting us know that the testing system works. Or am I reading the rules wrongly? If you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive you have to isolate for 14 days. The virus can emerge at any point within those 14 days, so getting a negative test in those circumstances really means nothing other than you aren't exhibiting the virus at that particular moment. You could test negative today but positive tomorrow. . So why doesn’t that apply to NHS staff ? For them it’s negative test, straight back to work, despite the fact that hospitals continue to provide a significant percentage of all cases. Just incidentally this also means even if you’ve been vaccinated you’ll still have to self-isolate for 14 days if you’ve been in contact with a case.
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Post by Phantom of London on Nov 17, 2020 23:13:11 GMT
BJ goes into isolation (again) at a rather crucial time for the country. Will he also miss Sir Kier grilling in PMQ's? There's no excuse for him not to do PMQ's via Zoom. Cannot the de facto Prime Minister step in. Surely Carrie Symonds should deputise then.
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Post by danb on Nov 18, 2020 19:14:25 GMT
BJ goes into isolation (again) at a rather crucial time for the country. Will he also miss Sir Kier grilling in PMQ's? Bit harsh that fella. Test and trace vital to us all getting back to some sort of normality Very convenient timing though with massive decisions needing to be made about Christmas & questions needing answering ref the departure of Cummings & the chicken. You can’t blame people for being suspicious, nor for preferring the idea of his switched on young partner as PM rather than him. He might be lining himself up for ‘test & trace poster boy’ but when people are reporting getting no notifications from the app, even when sat next to their positive husband on the couch, it may just be too late.
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Post by karloscar on Nov 18, 2020 21:09:51 GMT
Now that Dido Hardup is self isolating, maybe the app only works if you have ToryCronie virus. The rest of the population don't matter.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 19, 2020 9:25:06 GMT
Bit harsh that fella. Test and trace vital to us all getting back to some sort of normality Very convenient timing though with massive decisions needing to be made about Christmas & questions needing answering ref the departure of Cummings & the chicken. You can’t blame people for being suspicious, nor for preferring the idea of his switched on young partner as PM rather than him. He might be lining himself up for ‘test & trace poster boy’ but when people are reporting getting no notifications from the app, even when sat next to their positive husband on the couch, it may just be too late. There are a million and one things to attack the Tory government for. This is the worst government ever, when we needed the best. But this isn't one of them
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Post by danb on Nov 19, 2020 10:27:30 GMT
It cost £12 billion pounds of our money. I’d say it’s quite the issue.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 19, 2020 10:47:26 GMT
It cost £12 billion pounds of our money. I’d say it’s quite the issue. I agree the cost and who we are paying and the time length is an issue. That's a different issue though, no?
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Post by danb on Nov 19, 2020 10:56:46 GMT
It cost £12 billion pounds of our money. I’d say it’s quite the issue. I agree the cost and who we are paying and the time length is an issue. That's a different issue though, no? It’s an example of the great big issue of them rarely acting in our interest; or kind of, but benefitting themselves at the same time.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Nov 19, 2020 10:59:08 GMT
I agree the cost and who we are paying and the time length is an issue. That's a different issue though, no? It’s an example of the great big issue of them rarely acting in our interest; or kind of, but benefitting themselves at the same time. I'm with you on this one, one of the reasons we should be attacking this government
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 20, 2020 12:37:10 GMT
You really can't make it up any more. Priti Patel's bullying is exposed. It is Anti Bullying Week.
Marina Hyde sums it up best I think:
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Post by Jan on Nov 20, 2020 12:48:40 GMT
You really can't make it up any more. Priti Patel's bullying is exposed. It is Anti Bullying Week. Marina Hyde sums it up best I think: John Bercow had several credible serious bullying allegations against him but Labour supported him and he didn’t have to step down - in fact Margaret Beckett explicitly said that his input on Brexit “trumps bad behaviour”. So, that’s the precedent that’s been followed here too - you can’t have it both ways.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 20, 2020 13:01:04 GMT
Believe Bercow’s claims were allegations and not independently verified and has been barred from the House of Lords because of the allegation which is the norm for a retired Speaker of the House.
Patel’s allegations have been independently verified as being true and there are no repercussions.
Whataboutery is not a defence.
In this instance we should focus on the fact that there are people whose claims of being bullied have been proven but ignored, bullying has victims and these are the people who need protecting not the perpetrators.
There is no question what Labour would do now, Patel would be out quicker than you could say where’s the door.
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 20, 2020 13:04:14 GMT
Honestly, the repercussions for workplace bullying cannot be overstated. Oh, I wasn't bullying, it wasn't intentional. Of all the resignations that needed to have happened this year, Patel is at the top, even above Cummings
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Post by Jan on Nov 20, 2020 13:18:04 GMT
Believe Bercow’s claims were allegations and not independently verified and has been barred from the House of Lords because of the allegation which is the norm for a retired Speaker of the House. Patel’s allegations have been independently verified as being true and there are no repercussions. You believe wrong, the independent inquiry found he presided over a culture of harassment and bullying which led to several Commons staff leaving due to stress and related issues. The fact people are still turning a blind eye to it simply because he opposed Brexit is the double standard I’m pointing out. If you think barring Patel from a seat in the House of Lords is an adequate punishment then I don’t agree. Bercow should have been forced to go, Patel too. As to what Labour would do now, evidence suggests she’d be suspended then reinstated a few days later.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 20, 2020 13:24:17 GMT
Apologies, I thought you were defending Patel and she should not be sacked.
There is no defence for bullying and both should have gone.
I have confidence that the Labour Party would not condone bullying in any form under the current Leadership, I believe Corbyn will not get the whip (Starmers only recourse until the independent structure is in place) until he formally accepts that his Leadership did not take anti-semiitism seriously and the other sacked ministers remain outside the cabinet to my knowledge, expelling a previous Leader is unprecedented so sacking a bully would not even register as one requiring thought.
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Post by Jan on Nov 20, 2020 13:34:53 GMT
OK, I thought you were defending Patel and she should not be sacked. There is no defence for bullying and both should have gone, I have confidence that the Labour Party would not condone bullying in any form under the current Leadership. Not really. My position is that Labour - all the same MPs they have now, including Starmer - supported Bercow when an independent inquiry said he should consider his position due to bullying and they explicitly said this was because political decisions overrode “bad behaviour”. So, that’s the precedent, endorsed by the current leaders, so I don’t see why any other political party should do any different. Why do you want to hold the Conservatives to a higher standard ? Corbyn’s had the whip removed for 3 months, it’s time limited and not contingent on anything.
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Post by NeilVHughes on Nov 20, 2020 13:45:31 GMT
I believe in change, in the current Labour Party bullying by a Minister would not be tolerated, actions speak louder than words and since Starmer got into a position of Leadership he has acted quickly and decisively when needed to.
I believe all Political Parties should have high standards and since becoming Leader he has demonstrated his values consistently and decisively.
I do like it that the only criticism of Starmer is that he was in Corbyn’s Cabinet and therefore has no principles and therefore Johnson is as good as it gets.
The reinstatement of the Whip lies with Starmer and cannot see it happening, Starmer has said he has to be more contrite and one thing is sure he wants Corbyn gone and will not rest until he is.
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Post by vdcni on Nov 20, 2020 14:01:10 GMT
Maybe if those being bullied had donated to the Tory Party they might have been taken more seriously. Actually they'd probably got a lucrative PPE contract out of it.
The Liar Johnson's adviser on the ministerial code has quit as a result of the non action so someone near this embarrassment of a goverment has some integrity left.
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