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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2020 19:10:35 GMT
Don't forget, although it feels like an eternity, we have only been in lockdown for 6 weeks.
I therefore think calling it for September (over 4 months away) is a bit premature.
I think it'd be good if they gave July a go with facemarks and reduced capacity if there is no second peak....
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Post by jcs619 on May 1, 2020 22:22:40 GMT
I’m afraid there won’t be any resumption before January at the earliest...
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Post by theatreian on May 1, 2020 22:29:12 GMT
I agree there is no chance of any theatre or concerts this year. Even with facemasks etc it would not be safe for either the audience or cast and other staff. Very few people would go making the economics of it even worse as it is better to remain shut rather than open with just a few customers. Its not cheery I know but best to be realistic. Theatre etc will be back but I doubt before 2021.
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Post by amp09 on May 2, 2020 10:58:27 GMT
I’m afraid there won’t be any resumption before January at the earliest... Can you expand on your sweeping statement? Have you got proof for this or is this your opinion? I run a cinema and the chain I work for have told us a mid July opening is most likely at the moment and lots of work is going on behind the scenes for all sorts of things from social distancing to staff training etc when we reopen. So I’m optimistic that theatres will somehow manage to work out something that is manageable for them. However I do expect some companies not to pull through the expected reduced income from reduced capacities etc. |
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Post by sparky5000 on May 2, 2020 11:17:47 GMT
I agree there is no chance of any theatre or concerts this year. Even with facemasks etc it would not be safe for either the audience or cast and other staff. Very few people would go making the economics of it even worse as it is better to remain shut rather than open with just a few customers. Its not cheery I know but best to be realistic. Theatre etc will be back but I doubt before 2021. It may well be the case, but I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as theatre only opening when it’s safe for the audience. There is always going to be a risk for the audiences and cast and crew until there’s a vaccine, and that’s probably not going to happen for another year. But I don’t see theatres being shut down until then. I think it will come down to the R value, and the ability to test and track and trace widely, so that any outbreaks can be mitigated against quickly. The sad thing is that when they do open up again, tourism will be down, and lots of people will be holding back from visiting either through fear or for economic reasons or both, so I think it’s gonna be a really uncertain time for the industry  |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 2, 2020 11:34:16 GMT
I don’t know what will happen, but isn’t the whole point of the R number that eventually if we all keep following the rules, the number of people carrying the infection will be so small, and the risk of them passing it in even smaller, that whilst not risk free people might be able to make their own informed choice in taking the risk?
And that if we control the R number, the number of infections exponentially decreases until the disease (hopefully) dies out? Even without a vaccine?
Isn’t that more fundamentally important than social distancing or have I completely misunderstood?
That’s not to say theatres and cinemas wownt take measures to distance but they would be secondary to the infection rate surely?
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Post by partytentdown on May 2, 2020 11:34:36 GMT
Essentially nobody knows anything yet. It will be at least September, likely longer, and that's all we know.
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Post by basdfg on May 2, 2020 15:44:57 GMT
I agree there is no chance of any theatre or concerts this year. Even with facemasks etc it would not be safe for either the audience or cast and other staff. Very few people would go making the economics of it even worse as it is better to remain shut rather than open with just a few customers. Its not cheery I know but best to be realistic. Theatre etc will be back but I doubt before 2021. It may well be the case, but I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as theatre only opening when it’s safe for the audience. There is always going to be a risk for the audiences and cast and crew until there’s a vaccine, and that’s probably not going to happen for another year. But I don’t see theatres being shut down until then. I think it will come down to the R value, and the ability to test and track and trace widely, so that any outbreaks can be mitigated against quickly. The sad thing is that when they do open up again, tourism will be down, and lots of people will be holding back from visiting either through fear or for economic reasons or both, so I think it’s gonna be a really uncertain time for the industry International tourism might never fully return - and if transport costs increase those who make trips might not be able to afford theatre tickets as part of it. |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 2, 2020 16:06:31 GMT
It may well be the case, but I don’t think it’s going to be as simple as theatre only opening when it’s safe for the audience. There is always going to be a risk for the audiences and cast and crew until there’s a vaccine, and that’s probably not going to happen for another year. But I don’t see theatres being shut down until then. I think it will come down to the R value, and the ability to test and track and trace widely, so that any outbreaks can be mitigated against quickly. The sad thing is that when they do open up again, tourism will be down, and lots of people will be holding back from visiting either through fear or for economic reasons or both, so I think it’s gonna be a really uncertain time for the industry - and if transport costs increase those who make trips might not be able to afford theatre tickets as part of it. But it probably will. I’m not sure why you’re so intently committed the idea that people will stop travelling for leisure. |
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Post by theatreian on May 2, 2020 16:44:32 GMT
There are probably many factors to consider with travel , for leisure or other reasons. Some will be economic such as the downturn may give pople less income to spend on luxuries such as leisure travel. Some will be peoples feelings of safety, ie do they feel safe on that form of travel, particularly public transport be it train, bus or ship for example. As has been evidenced in many polls the public are not going to rush back to their former practices in a hurry and will not do so until they are convinced they are safe.
Another issue is the reason to travel for leisure. For example trips to cities such as London my have been for theatre or concerts. If these are not going to be forthcoming for some time then those sorts of travel will be reduced. Other things alongside that are availability of restaurants etc and how safe people will feel in those. This will also translate into holiday travel also.
International travel will take some years to recover I feel for some of those reasons. Certainly the aviation industry is reckoning it will take several years to get back to a reasonable level of travel.
Other factors will also come into play such as reduced business travel due to the evidence of being able to use technology for meetings etc rather than travel. Also evidence on environmental improvements due to the reduction in travel has also been noted.
Having said all that none of us really know how the situation will unfold with regard to travel or anything else really. We have just got to wait and see and use the available evidence which improves all the time to inform our own decisions in line with government advice.
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Post by basdfg on May 2, 2020 17:08:53 GMT
There are probably many factors to consider with travel , for leisure or other reasons. Some will be economic such as the downturn may give pople less income to spend on luxuries such as leisure travel. Some will be peoples feelings of safety, ie do they feel safe on that form of travel, particularly public transport be it train, bus or ship for example. As has been evidenced in many polls the public are not going to rush back to their former practices in a hurry and will not do so until they are convinced they are safe. Another issue is the reason to travel for leisure. For example trips to cities such as London my have been for theatre or concerts. If these are not going to be forthcoming for some time then those sorts of travel will be reduced. Other things alongside that are availability of restaurants etc and how safe people will feel in those. This will also translate into holiday travel also. International travel will take some years to recover I feel for some of those reasons. Certainly the aviation industry is reckoning it will take several years to get back to a reasonable level of travel. Other factors will also come into play such as reduced business travel due to the evidence of being able to use technology for meetings etc rather than travel. Also evidence on environmental improvements due to the reduction in travel has also been noted. Having said all that none of us really know how the situation will unfold with regard to travel or anything else really. We have just got to wait and see and use the available evidence which improves all the time to inform our own decisions in line with government advice. And those will make leisure travel more and more unaffordable. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 19:39:00 GMT
There are probably many factors to consider with travel , for leisure or other reasons. Some will be economic such as the downturn may give pople less income to spend on luxuries such as leisure travel. Some will be peoples feelings of safety, ie do they feel safe on that form of travel, particularly public transport be it train, bus or ship for example. As has been evidenced in many polls the public are not going to rush back to their former practices in a hurry and will not do so until they are convinced they are safe. Another issue is the reason to travel for leisure. For example trips to cities such as London my have been for theatre or concerts. If these are not going to be forthcoming for some time then those sorts of travel will be reduced. Other things alongside that are availability of restaurants etc and how safe people will feel in those. This will also translate into holiday travel also. International travel will take some years to recover I feel for some of those reasons. Certainly the aviation industry is reckoning it will take several years to get back to a reasonable level of travel. Other factors will also come into play such as reduced business travel due to the evidence of being able to use technology for meetings etc rather than travel. Also evidence on environmental improvements due to the reduction in travel has also been noted. Having said all that none of us really know how the situation will unfold with regard to travel or anything else really. We have just got to wait and see and use the available evidence which improves all the time to inform our own decisions in line with government advice. And those will make leisure travel more and more unaffordable. But not for everyone. Plenty of people will still travel. |
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Post by fiyero on May 2, 2020 20:16:07 GMT
Isn’t this the confirmed cancellations thread? This seems to mainly hypothesise and guessing
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Post by meister on May 4, 2020 11:18:09 GMT
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Post by Dr Tom on May 4, 2020 11:52:19 GMT
Breakfast on Pluto has been cancelled (Donmar Warehouse/Birmingham Rep).
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Post by talkingheads on May 4, 2020 11:53:04 GMT
I knew this was coming. The Unfriend was the play I was most looking forward to this year, as such I am absolutely keeping my tickets for a rescheduled date. |
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Post by highonahill on May 4, 2020 12:54:14 GMT
I knew this was coming. The Unfriend was the play I was most looking forward to this year, as such I am absolutely keeping my tickets for a rescheduled date. I'm gutted by this unsurprising but sad news. That venue is a huge part of my life as an audience member, chaperone and I also have family & friends who work there so feel for them all. Was desperate to see Assassins, especially in Sondheim's 90th year. |
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Post by NeilVHughes on May 4, 2020 14:14:00 GMT
Impressed with the simple and straightforward refund/credit process Chichester Festival Theatre have implemented.
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Post by alece10 on May 4, 2020 14:32:34 GMT
I had South Pacific and Assassins booked. Looks less and less likely I'll get to see anything g this year. Even doubtful of stuff that's been rescheduled for later this year.
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Post by frosty on May 4, 2020 15:20:05 GMT
Very sad news about the CFT 2020 season, I had tickets for virtually everything. It's the right decision, ending the uncertainty means they can focus on coming back bigger and better next year, I'm sure it's strong enough and has enough support to survive, but it must be heartbreaking for the people that work there.
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Post by Someone in a tree on May 4, 2020 15:35:53 GMT
I wonder if Chichester will keep the same programming and just shift it forward a year? I suspect not.
Perhaps a great new play about lockdown is waiting to be performed.
South Pacific will be a cash cow but Assassins not, wouldn't be surprised if the later is replaced with something more commercial
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Post by altamont on May 4, 2020 15:39:13 GMT
Semmelweis with Mark Rylance at the Bristol Old Vic has been postponed to later in the year, or next year
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Post by n1david on May 4, 2020 15:50:01 GMT
I wonder if Chichester will keep the same programming and just shift it forward a year? I suspect not. From the FAQ: |
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Post by partytentdown on May 5, 2020 11:03:49 GMT
Surprised to see SOLT have only extended the West End closure to the end of June, rather than September as many were anticipating
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 11:04:27 GMT
Sunday in the Park with George postponed to 2021 according to its leading man and the production Twitter account.
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