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Post by inthenose on Feb 11, 2022 22:09:01 GMT
Unsurprisingly none of this constant nonsense makes me want to go and see this, it's still pretty near the bottom of the list.
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Post by danb on Feb 11, 2022 22:12:54 GMT
Ever since written mass communication was a thing, people have been writing to express their displeasure. Whether it was a pamphlet distributed in coffee houses or letters to the editor of a newspaper, the disgruntled have found an outlet for their voices. If you are on an Internet forum in 2022, you should be in no way surprised that people are venting. I think we should just all say “yes, it was jolly good, now what is he doing next?”, and move on. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Feb 11, 2022 22:18:48 GMT
The Internet is never going to be like that.
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Post by lolalou on Feb 11, 2022 22:20:57 GMT
Carrie isn't the only one getting defensive about the schedule changes Why is another actor weighing in for Carrie? Pretty sure she’s more than capable of doing it herself. |
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Post by inthenose on Feb 11, 2022 22:25:38 GMT
They act like ghastly, terrible professionals. Talk about a lack of decorum and class! Andrew Lloyd Webber is a plonker but this lot are no better. Why is it *always* this show and this rotten group?
I am not endorsing this nonsense by seeing it. And there's a couple of names from that cast list I'll be actively avoiding in future shows, too.
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Post by lolalou on Feb 11, 2022 22:25:40 GMT
Transparency is the key to all this. If you explain the situation, people can understand. If you don't, people will speculate and/or complain. Exactly this. I don’t think most folk like being ‘taken advantage of’ You spend your hard earned cash you have expectations. If you were coming to see her tonight you’d have every reason to be fed up at the changes seemingly at the whim of production. If Miss Fletcher isn’t the star of the show and ‘it doesn’t matter WHO plays Cinderella, you pay to see Cinderella not a certain actor’ paraphrasing but essentially what she trots out when people are upset she’s not on then why does the schedule have to switch for Valentine’s Day so she’s on? Can’t have it all ways? |
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Post by marob on Feb 11, 2022 22:46:38 GMT
Carrie isn't the only one getting defensive about the schedule changes Why is another actor weighing in for Carrie? Pretty sure she’s more than capable of doing it herself. To be fair though, the original tweet from West End Covers was announcing that Lauren Byrne was playing Cinderella and had @‘s for the show and the actress. Then because the customer replied to the original tweet it means she sent the message to West End Covers account, the Cinderella publicity account, and Lauren Byrne herself, so that’ll be why she replied. |
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Post by lolalou on Feb 11, 2022 22:54:40 GMT
Why is another actor weighing in for Carrie? Pretty sure she’s more than capable of doing it herself. To be fair though, the original tweet from West End Covers was announcing that Lauren Byrne was playing Cinderella and had @‘s for the show and the actress. Then because the customer replied to the original tweet it means she sent the message to West End Covers account, the Cinderella publicity account, and Lauren Byrne herself, so that’ll be why she replied. Ah gotcha. The point still stands though. Let the publicity account handle it? No real need to get involved. It reflects badly on the show actors getting in spats with the paying public about schedules. |
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Post by princeton on Feb 12, 2022 0:04:41 GMT
Call me old fashioned - and I am as I think twitter does more harm than good - but Lauren Byrne was asked a direct question (as clarified by Marob) "does anyone know why" which also included supposition that 'something seems a bit off". Lauren responded explaining the reason that Carrie Hope Fletcher wasn't performing at that performance and that there was nothing untoward about the change - she even apologised that the original poster wasn't going to be seeing Carrie. Now it seems as though she's the one in the wrong with someone else weighing in - posting that "The attitude displayed from this actress is appalling". Personally I thought her response was accurate, helpful and friendly. I didn't see that she got into a spat or was being defensive - even if, in trying to keep the tone light it was occasionally clumsily written. Bet she'll not attempt to be helpful in future!!
But hey, what do I know, I come from an era when you discovered that an actor was off when you saw a typed notice on the box office window - and you just accepted that there was a good reason for the change.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 1:50:13 GMT
Call me old fashioned - and I am as I think twitter does more harm than good - but Lauren Byrne was asked a direct question (as clarified by Marob) "does anyone know why" which also included supposition that 'something seems a bit off". Lauren responded explaining the reason that Carrie Hope Fletcher wasn't performing at that performance and that there was nothing untoward about the change - she even apologised that the original poster wasn't going to be seeing Carrie. Now it seems as though she's the one in the wrong with someone else weighing in - posting that "The attitude displayed from this actress is appalling". Personally I thought her response was accurate, helpful and friendly. I didn't see that she got into a spat or was being defensive - even if, in trying to keep the tone light it was occasionally clumsily written. Bet she'll not attempt to be helpful in future!! But hey, what do I know, I come from an era when you discovered that an actor was off when you saw a typed notice on the box office window - and you just accepted that there was a good reason for the change. I don't disagree with you about Byrne, Princeton. But when the actress constantly uses social media to announce her schedule, and then suddenly changes her schedule with days notice, her fans are allowed to be disappointment. I'm not a fan, and I frankly hope she's out when I see the show in two weeks, but I can understand why her fans would be frustrated. ESPECIALLY when she's been known to take additional days off when she already has an alternate on twice a week (for a role that isn't very demanding). |
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Post by LaLuPone on Feb 12, 2022 2:18:59 GMT
It’s literally not Carrie deciding to take days off though, it’s the production company changing things around!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 17:28:01 GMT
It’s literally not Carrie deciding to take days off though, it’s the production company changing things around! Carrie has been known to take days off in addition to her scheduled ones. |
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Post by LaLuPone on Feb 12, 2022 17:29:51 GMT
I know this might be crazy to hear but people get ill sometimes!
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Post by max on Feb 12, 2022 17:45:20 GMT
 Someone on Twitter has given the publicity a makeover. I like it. /photo/1 |
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Post by LaLuPone on Feb 12, 2022 18:22:16 GMT
Georgina Onuorah is Andrew Lloyd Webber?!
Now that would make a great twist.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 19:15:53 GMT
I know this might be crazy to hear but people get ill sometimes! No one said they don't. But Carrie's attendance is pretty atrocious. Let's not forget the time she was off sick, then went, dressed to the nines, to attend and sing at the Diana charity event, and then called out the very next night again. You can defend her til the cows come home if you like. But it won't change the opinion of me - or others on this forum - that she is unprofessional. |
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Post by danb on Feb 12, 2022 22:22:52 GMT
Let’s not forget the numerous times she’s thought she was performing only to find out that she wasn’t and that someone else was. The pr and schedule management is appalling. Admittedly it doesn’t help when she turns it back on you, the money paying customer, making you feel bad for expecting the advertised artists to be actually performing that night is, in a word ‘nonsense’.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 22:43:20 GMT
Let’s not forget the numerous times she’s thought she was performing only to find out that she wasn’t and that someone else was. The pr and schedule management is appalling. To then have it turned back on you, the money paying customer, making you feel bad for expecting the advertised artists to be actually performing that night is in a word ‘nonsense’. I haven't seen those instances, but I believe you if you say they happened! If that's the case, it's certainly not only her fault. But she has a habit of chastising anyone who expresses disappointment in missing her (sometimes even searching her name and responding to people who didn't tag her), and it's a little ridiculous to assume everyone saw her IG story about the Valentine's Day switch. Plus, lots of people bought tickets prior to that announcement. So, while that might be management's fault, I don't think she does herself any favors with the way she carries on on social media. |
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Post by ThereWillBeSun on Feb 13, 2022 14:14:29 GMT
Let’s not forget the numerous times she’s thought she was performing only to find out that she wasn’t and that someone else was. The pr and schedule management is appalling. To then have it turned back on you, the money paying customer, making you feel bad for expecting the advertised artists to be actually performing that night is in a word ‘nonsense’. I haven't seen those instances, but I believe you if you say they happened! If that's the case, it's certainly not only her fault. But she has a habit of chastising anyone who expresses disappointment in missing her (sometimes even searching her name and responding to people who didn't tag her), and it's a little ridiculous to assume everyone saw her IG story about the Valentine's Day switch. Plus, lots of people bought tickets prior to that announcement. So, while that might be management's fault, I don't think she does herself any favors with the way she carries on on social media. I think the cast need a social media consultant. It's embarrassing. |
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Post by inthenose on Feb 13, 2022 15:55:10 GMT
I haven't seen those instances, but I believe you if you say they happened! If that's the case, it's certainly not only her fault. But she has a habit of chastising anyone who expresses disappointment in missing her (sometimes even searching her name and responding to people who didn't tag her), and it's a little ridiculous to assume everyone saw her IG story about the Valentine's Day switch. Plus, lots of people bought tickets prior to that announcement. So, while that might be management's fault, I don't think she does herself any favors with the way she carries on on social media. I think the cast need a social media consultant. It's embarrassing. Or a recast, with better "working professionals". It is a desperately sorry state of affairs. I am hearing of pathetic conduct from a minority in the company, a couple of young turns are risking their entire careers in the business with their behaviour backstage. If you are reading this - it is well worth shutting up. The crew talk and you end up with dozens of key people hating you. What they don't realise either is that they simply won't get seen again. Suddenly their agent has no auditions for them because casting directors don't want liabilities. A bad hire really hurts their reputation. Get your head down. Shut up. Do your job. If you can't be trusted with social media, delete all your accounts. Keep your livelihood you worked so hard for. And remember the wings have ears! |
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Post by cezbear on Feb 13, 2022 16:29:05 GMT
I think the cast need a social media consultant. It's embarrassing. Or a recast, with better "working professionals". It is a desperately sorry state of affairs. I am hearing of pathetic conduct from a minority in the company, a couple of young turns are risking their entire careers in the business with their behaviour backstage. If you are reading this - it is well worth shutting up. The crew talk and you end up with dozens of key people hating you. What they don't realise either is that they simply won't get seen again. Suddenly their agent has no auditions for them because casting directors don't want liabilities. A bad hire really hurts their reputation. Get your head down. Shut up. Do your job. If you can't be trusted with social media, delete all your accounts. Keep your livelihood you worked so hard for. And remember the wings have ears! Any hints as to who? I could probably hazard a reasonable guess on one or two based on things I've seen... |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 13, 2022 17:29:21 GMT
Me too. They think they’re being clever and probably enjoy the short term kudos they get on Twitter but from an employer perspective I wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.
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Post by leanne23 on Feb 14, 2022 13:35:15 GMT
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Post by ladidah on Feb 14, 2022 13:40:11 GMT
Wow, that's a long extension!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2022 13:59:36 GMT
It's pretty much pining for the fjords now.
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