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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 12:53:45 GMT
I don't think it's OK for us to be discussing a young woman's weight on here, is it?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 9, 2018 16:43:10 GMT
I don't think it's OK for us to be discussing a young woman's weight on here, is it? No it isn’t, and certain individuals here seem obsessed with it. Let’s move on please. |
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Post by indis on Aug 9, 2018 19:25:27 GMT
I don't think it's OK for us to be discussing a young woman's weight on here, is it? keep it at here boring videos 🤪 |
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Post by Roxie on Aug 9, 2018 21:08:39 GMT
No excuse for body shaming anyone on any public forum. Ever. In my opinion a persons size has zero bearing on their worth as a human. I think a lot of the criticism on here of Carrie is unfair. And no, I’m not a hopeful or a huge fan, I just happen to think she’s a talented YOUNG woman and the way she gets vilified on here you’d think she was terrible. She’s what? 24? 25? None of you lot ever made mistakes at that age? Hell. I’m still making them!
There’s plenty of people in the public eye I’m not a fan off, but I just dont Watch what they’re in or follow them on social media. I think if you’re taking time to be petty and mean about someone online (and some of these comments are quite mean) then that says more about you than the person you’re insulting. How’s about we all as humans try and build each other up instead of tearing each other down? I’m not saying she’s perfect and she doesn’t need to learn anything, but constructive criticism is way more effective than being mean. Imagine if you were CHF and you were reading this board; how would you feel? Life’s short. Be kind. Kindness saves lives.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2018 22:21:40 GMT
And one of the things that I thought was great about CHFs vlog was her stuff about body acceptance. She seemed quite confident of her beauty, which makes a refreshing change.
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Post by martello736 on Aug 10, 2018 7:40:52 GMT
And her books are really, really badly written (flicked through one the other day, one of the character's names changes between pages... oh dear). Did she slip and forget to call the female lead Callie Hype-Fredger and called her Carrie instead?  |
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Post by kathryn on Aug 10, 2018 8:45:12 GMT
Imagine if you were CHF and you were reading this board; how would you feel? It's got to be said, given that she obviously does monitor what people say about her online, I'd be surprised if she hasn't come across this thread! So: Hi, Carrie! Don't let the bastards get you down. |
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Post by haz23 on Aug 10, 2018 10:55:43 GMT
I think CHF is naturally beautiful inside and out, and VERY talented. She doesn't deserve the stick she gets online.
I had a look on that Guru Gossip site and my god, the trolls on there!!
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Post by hannechalk on Sept 13, 2018 15:03:44 GMT
Yeah, that is a good example of lazy reporting by the Evening Standard.
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Post by indis on Sept 13, 2018 16:31:52 GMT
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Post by oxfordsimon on Sept 13, 2018 17:38:37 GMT
I appreciate that the issue of body shaming is not something to diminish or deny. It clearly is something that people have to deal with on a daily basis and it can be very destructive.
However that BBC article seemed to just be a puff piece about CHF and the show - with a click-bait-y headline.
CHF has had to deal with this sort of tweet and comment over the years - and it is wrong that she is still facing it - but this is a rather misleading headline that is more about the show rather than an issue affecting the industry.
Clearly a press release intended to get attention for the show rather than investigative journalism to highlight something in a serious and considered way.
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Post by alece10 on Sept 13, 2018 17:57:53 GMT
This is what the Evening Standard says.
"CHF is a YouTube star now pursuing a musical theatre career. Her character Veronica is her first major west end role"
Oh dear!
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Post by Roxie on Sept 13, 2018 18:01:08 GMT
Repeat after me: COMMENTS 👏🏻 ABOUT 👏🏻 OTHER 👏🏻 PEOPLE’S 👏🏻 BODIES 👏🏻 ARE 👏🏻NEVER 👏🏻 OK👏🏻
I’ve been on the receiving end of nasty comments about my body and it hurts! No one knows anyone else’s circumstances or why they’re the weight they are. It’s of absolutely no concern to anyone what another person weighs, unless they’re sitting on them.
This body shaming is disgusting and dangerous and needs to stop.
Rant over.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 11:19:19 GMT
With all this talk about body shaming what about schools or Drs telling people they are clinically obese etc. We have all this lose weight, improve the age of your heart and then people applaud larger models being used on the front page of magazines. Some people can carry weight and be healthy but there does seem double standards like TV promoting healthy eating, cut back on salt, sugar, alcohol then you have cookery programmes using it on the same channel.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 12:21:02 GMT
There's a bit of a difference between concern over someone's weight because of health reasons and sneering at a stranger on the Internet because you get some sort of perverted arousal from making someone else miserable.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 14:13:53 GMT
In fairness, there's not a *lot* of difference when you consider that concern trolling is a thing, and people will say "I'm just WORRIED about you" as though that's supposed to make it okay for them to call you fat like it's an insult and imply that you're a weak lazy person with no self control. People are all built differently, and if they're not one of your VERY nearest and dearest, then their weight is OFF the table for discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 14:49:39 GMT
In fairness, there's not a *lot* of difference when you consider that concern trolling is a thing I assumed that when I said "concern" the implied meaning of "genuine and legitimate concern" was obvious, given that the previous post was referring to doctors and clinical obesity. The people who are criticising Carrie Hope Fletcher for her purportedly criticisable weight aren't remotely concerned about her. They're just arseholes. If they couldn't criticise her weight they'd criticise something else. I'd never heard of "concern trolling" before your post, and I'm surprised you said there's not a lot of difference given that genuine concern for someone's health isn't remotely similar to feigned concern as a weak disguise for belittlement. Not a single one of the people who are attacking CHF have a genuine concern for her. It's all the difference in the world. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2018 16:25:06 GMT
I agree there is a difference between someone who is obese and someone like CHF who may be naturally curvy or a bit overweight at the very worse. CHF said part of her weight gain was due to the birth control she is now on. She is obviously in good physical fitness to do 8 shows a week plus her vlogging stuff. Being in a show particularly on tour they work and likely eat late and maybe have convenience foods and will kick back and enjoy a few drinks so the diet may not be perfect but they must burn off a lot during the show.
I did point out that Carrie looked larger than the other Heather girls on a photo but they are supposed to be the perfect cheerleader type girls and in hold ups, Carrie's leg shape would be highlighted more
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Post by upthespitfires on Sept 15, 2018 23:36:17 GMT
Hitster, you do seem to keep bringing the subject of CHF’s size, despite admin asking for it to end.
No-one wants to be on the receiving end of body shaming comments so I’m asking you, in the words of Idina, to let it go.
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Post by Stephen on Sept 16, 2018 9:40:38 GMT
I have enjoyed watching her most recent vlogs about Heathers. She gives a nice behind the scenes look at the Haymarket and it gives a good feel of what it's like to be part of the cast in a West End musical like Heathers.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2018 9:19:54 GMT
Hitster, you do seem to keep bringing the subject of CHF’s size, despite admin asking for it to end. No-one wants to be on the receiving end of body shaming comments so I’m asking you, in the words of Idina, to let it go. What I discuss with Admin is between me and them and none of your business. My last comment was a constructive view of how life on tour and effect people's eating and drinking habits. Also it said CHF's figure was right for the part she was playing as was that of her co-stars for the parts they play. |
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Post by andromedadench on Sept 17, 2018 12:06:25 GMT
In fairness, there's not a *lot* of difference when you consider that concern trolling is a thing, and people will say "I'm just WORRIED about you" as though that's supposed to make it okay for them to call you fat like it's an insult and imply that you're a weak lazy person with no self control. People are all built differently, and if they're not one of your VERY nearest and dearest, then their weight is OFF the table for discussion. Indeed. Concern trolling is very much a thing and not only online. Throughout my adult life my weight has fluctuated from underweight to overweight via everything in between, and I've never even gone to any extremes in either direction, yet my family is apparently filled with such paragons of physical and every other perfection that there's always been one relative or another to berate me about my weight 'out of concern' (if I was overweight) or to praise me for finally looking presentable again (once I'd go back to a lower weight). My favourite moment was when a random elderly great-aunt who hadn't seen me in a while approached me at my grandma's FUNERAL and addressed me by my sister's name. I corrected her to which she just raised her eyebrow and said 'No, no, you CAN't be! Andromeda is the fat one!'' (And I was very underweight at the time due to not being able to eat as a result of severe anxiety and had spent over a year unable to leave the house on my own due to agoraphobia and was anything but healthy or happy and would have much rather been obese. But at least my looks didn't insult my great-aunt's aesthetics) I have no idea why people are like that but they are and it seems it's nothing new. Shrug. |
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Post by eastendoftheworld on Oct 3, 2018 21:57:35 GMT
What do you guys think about this interview ?
I feel like she crosses a really thin line between work and personal life. Publicly saying that you enjoy kissing a castmate as part of your job because you have a crush on him feels very wrong. If a man made this statement things would've had a different impact. It makes me very uncomfortable.
I do theater as a hobby and if I learned that a castmate thought that about me I would feel both really exposed and vulnerable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2018 23:49:28 GMT
What do you guys think about this interview ? I feel like she crosses a really thin line between work and personal life. Publicly saying that you enjoy kissing a castmate as part of your job because you have a crush on him feels very wrong. If a man made this statement things would've had a different impact. It makes me very uncomfortable. I do theater as a hobby and if I learned that a castmate thought that about me I would feel both really exposed and vulnerable. What? You do know they're boyfriend and girlfriend right? I'm pretty sure her boyfriend is well aware that she enjoys kissing him and has a crush on him and I'm pretty sure he feels the same way about her since he has agreed to date her. Also there are PLENTY of times when a male actor has talked about how lucky he was to get to kiss/have sex scenes with a beautiful actress, even when they're not dating in real life and I can't recall anyone ever making a big fuss about such a situation. |
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Post by No. on Oct 4, 2018 6:22:43 GMT
The Addams Family finished nearly a year ago, if she’d been talking about it at the time then sure it may have been a little unprofessional, but it’s a year later, they’re in a relationship and she’s no longer attached to the production. I can’t see a problem with it personally
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