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Post by MrsCondomine on Jul 25, 2018 9:06:26 GMT
She is such a child.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 25, 2018 9:52:32 GMT
I reckon she’s loved up.
All the signs are there. Giggly, giddy, not quite sure what she’s saying or why but very happy about absolutelyeverything.We’ve all been there.
Well actually, I haven’t because I’m incapable of love.
Or any human emotion for that matter! 😑
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 9:56:20 GMT
That's because you're a bear BurlyBeaR driven only by a drive to steal picnic baskets. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 10:01:02 GMT
I understand both of those points, but that wasn’t the point I was trying to get at - maybe I didn’t explain myself very well, but all I’m trying to say is that a good 90% of this thread is just people bashing one person, and when it’s concentrated in it’s own thread it’s a little disheartening to read sometimes, as someone who is not a die-hard fan but who also doesn’t agree with most of the criticisisms thrown her way, by some people who seem like they can’t wait to come here and have another pop at her. I know there’s not many YouTube/MT crossover stuff, but I feel like she gets unfairly judged and scrutinised for things she does that are ‘normal’ in the YT community but not in the MT community, then gets judged for things that are ‘normal’ in the MT community but not in the YT community. But I appreciate it’s hard to discern if you’re not a superfan of both. I just think she’s quite a talented young woman who is trying her best to make her mark and keep everyone happy, like lots of people are, but she seems to get judged harsher than anyone. Like I said, just my opinion from what I observe reading this thread compared to others and not directed at anyone in particular. I think it's probably because a lot of this board doesn't understand youtube as a medium? or aren't engaged with it? Perhaps I did misunderstand your previous post but I think some of it is still relevant- and I think we're actually saying similar things. I don't understand why people get angry that she has a youtube following, and I also get angry that people dismiss youtube- it's as Carrie says in that video- a creative outlet. Yes there's vacuous content (Zoella and co) but there's also great creative stuff- Miranda Sings being a great, early adopter of that. BUT I think if it's not a world your'e familiar with people seem to think it's just people sitting around getting popular for no reason and they get angry about it. I'm not quite sure why either. All that says, Carrie does attract the drama, whoever's fault that may be and as long as there's drama theatre types will be here for it whatever platform it's on. |
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Post by haz23 on Jul 25, 2018 10:24:56 GMT
She's now tweeted about a book which is being published by someone which apparently includes details of a previous relationship she was in. Poor Carrie, looks like she's having a bad week.
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Post by theatremadness on Jul 25, 2018 10:37:30 GMT
I understand both of those points, but that wasn’t the point I was trying to get at - maybe I didn’t explain myself very well, but all I’m trying to say is that a good 90% of this thread is just people bashing one person, and when it’s concentrated in it’s own thread it’s a little disheartening to read sometimes, as someone who is not a die-hard fan but who also doesn’t agree with most of the criticisisms thrown her way, by some people who seem like they can’t wait to come here and have another pop at her. I know there’s not many YouTube/MT crossover stuff, but I feel like she gets unfairly judged and scrutinised for things she does that are ‘normal’ in the YT community but not in the MT community, then gets judged for things that are ‘normal’ in the MT community but not in the YT community. But I appreciate it’s hard to discern if you’re not a superfan of both. I just think she’s quite a talented young woman who is trying her best to make her mark and keep everyone happy, like lots of people are, but she seems to get judged harsher than anyone. Like I said, just my opinion from what I observe reading this thread compared to others and not directed at anyone in particular. I think it's probably because a lot of this board doesn't understand youtube as a medium? or aren't engaged with it? Perhaps I did misunderstand your previous post but I think some of it is still relevant- and I think we're actually saying similar things. I don't understand why people get angry that she has a youtube following, and I also get angry that people dismiss youtube- it's as Carrie says in that video- a creative outlet. Yes there's vacuous content (Zoella and co) but there's also great creative stuff- Miranda Sings being a great, early adopter of that. BUT I think if it's not a world your'e familiar with people seem to think it's just people sitting around getting popular for no reason and they get angry about it. I'm not quite sure why either. All that says, Carrie does attract the drama, whoever's fault that may be and as long as there's drama theatre types will be here for it whatever platform it's on. Yeah you're right, we're very much saying similar things and there isn't a point in there I disagree with! Live for the drama, right? And BB you're also right, she is loved up! She's going out with Oliver Ormson now (Lucas off of Addams Family) |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 10:40:51 GMT
In the interests of gossiping about something else other than her videos- I really like her and Oliver together (and like him) he seems sweet, and obviously is part of the same 'world' so hopefully that'll stand them well.
Especially after that horrible experience she had when she was very young. (I wouldn't want to drag it all up here, it's an easy google for anyone curious)
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Post by Dawnstar on Jul 25, 2018 19:50:26 GMT
You don't even have to Google. I've just noticed that she's made the headlines on the BBC News' Entertainment section. I can't say I've ever heard of the ex she's having problems with but I suppose he must be famous for the BBC to consider it newsworthy. www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44952440 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 20:06:59 GMT
Personally I do watch a lot of YouTube and I have no issue with crossing over from there to theatre. The issue with CHF is I find her so unlikable and completely full of her own self importance. The difference between her and her brother is huge.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Jul 26, 2018 10:03:18 GMT
Wow I never thought Alex Day would become a balding gremlin. He used to be very good looking. I have no idea what he's done but I don't understand why CHF needs to share EVERYTHING about this exchange online. Surely if she's getting the lawyers in, sharing the messages between the two of them in order to get headpats is moot? I also like the way he clearly didn't believe her threat about her lawyer. He knows her quite well I think  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 13:28:06 GMT
^ I have to agree with theatremadness on this one. I'm by no means a CHF fan, in actual fact I was swept along by the virtual eye-rolling on this very board every time her name was mentioned and found myself unintentionally disliking her based on no personal experience whatsoever. Since seeing her on stage (Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a particularly low event, so discounting that) in Heathers I suddenly thought "Hey, she's not deserving of this much stick". Whilst I understand a lot of it is aimed towards her general online presence, I still don't believe the negative attention she receives from others on here is necessarily fair. The lesson here for me, at least, is not to be too easily influenced one way or another by those who talk the loudest. On the opposite hand I found myself devastated to have missed out on seeing Titanic during its two London runs due to the heaps of praise it was receiving here. I booked for the tour and found it loathsome and very dull. Nobody's fault in particular mind, other than my own.  |
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Post by No. on Jul 26, 2018 14:40:04 GMT
Wow I never thought Alex Day would become a balding gremlin. He used to be very good looking. I have no idea what he's done but I don't understand why CHF needs to share EVERYTHING about this exchange online. Surely if she's getting the lawyers in, sharing the messages between the two of them in order to get headpats is moot? I also like the way he clearly didn't believe her threat about her lawyer. He knows her quite well I think In all honesty I think she’s right to defend herself and discuss what’s happening. One of the reasons he’s publishing the book in the first place is probably because she hasn’t actually said that much about their relationship before, and in the head of an abuser that makes it acceptable to exploit it for money. I’ll never know exactly what he’s thinking, but I think that’s a general theme amongst people like him. |
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Post by MrsCondomine on Jul 26, 2018 14:57:22 GMT
Wow I never thought Alex Day would become a balding gremlin. He used to be very good looking. I have no idea what he's done but I don't understand why CHF needs to share EVERYTHING about this exchange online. Surely if she's getting the lawyers in, sharing the messages between the two of them in order to get headpats is moot? I also like the way he clearly didn't believe her threat about her lawyer. He knows her quite well I think In all honesty I think she’s right to defend herself and discuss what’s happening. One of the reasons he’s publishing the book in the first place is probably because she hasn’t actually said that much about their relationship before, and in the head of an abuser that makes it acceptable to exploit it for money. I’ll never know exactly what he’s thinking, but I think that’s a general theme amongst people like him. Oh God I didn't realise he was abusive. What a nasty piece of work. In that case I'm on her side, even if she's a bloody drama queen most of the time. Manipulative behaviour/abuse in a relationship is never warranted by anyone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 19:40:13 GMT
Wow I never thought Alex Day would become a balding gremlin. He used to be very good looking. I have no idea what he's done but I don't understand why CHF needs to share EVERYTHING about this exchange online. Surely if she's getting the lawyers in, sharing the messages between the two of them in order to get headpats is moot? I also like the way he clearly didn't believe her threat about her lawyer. He knows her quite well I think In all honesty I think she’s right to defend herself and discuss what’s happening. One of the reasons he’s publishing the book in the first place is probably because she hasn’t actually said that much about their relationship before, and in the head of an abuser that makes it acceptable to exploit it for money. I’ll never know exactly what he’s thinking, but I think that’s a general theme amongst people like him. Yes- I wasn’t aware of her/them at the time but what I’ve gathered since is he was abusive to several people. And this book is his way of trying to defend his actions. So “famous” or not I think I’d be speaking out against it too. And from what I gather about him I hope he gets what he deserves. |
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Post by shady23 on Aug 3, 2018 18:51:50 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 5, 2018 6:40:53 GMT
Oh god. Messy messy messy. Her mother has waded in now aswell. And Oliver Ormson. This insistence on trying to stage manage all social media relating to herself will never work. Back away from it now Carrie. |
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Post by Stephen on Aug 5, 2018 10:45:17 GMT
The amount of times I've written huge ranting posts here then deleted them because I feel bad.
I'm really not a fan. End of.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 13:51:19 GMT
Thanks a bunch, you lot! A few weeks ago I had never even heard of Carrie Hope Fletcher or Alex Day. Now I have spent hours watching both vlogs (?) reading blogs and catching up on the various youtuber scandals - most unedifying when I could have been reading War and Peace or some such.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 5, 2018 16:28:02 GMT
I had a scan through the threads on Guru Gossiper, purely in the interests of research of course as Im NOT interested in CHF in any way shape or form  . It’s all pretty low level criticism, certainly nothing for Oliver to be calling people c***s for (I have not read every post since 2015 so please don’t come for me if someone said something vile). Apparently CHF has referenced the website several times before, knows what it is, yet chose to go visit and read what she knew would be comments from people who, for the most part, find her really annoying. She then wrote her blogpost saying how she’s trying. Cue hundreds of “Hopefulls” saying how fantastic she is. Go figure. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 19:35:34 GMT
At least she has cleared up her increase in mass due to being on birth control. Cue hundreds of hopefuls googling "birth control". I would have thought doing a show 8 times a week with warm ups would have balanced out side effects from her medication especially in this type of weather performers must be losing pounds in sweat.
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Post by kathryn on Aug 6, 2018 8:37:40 GMT
Oh god. Messy messy messy. Her mother has waded in now aswell. And Oliver Ormson. This insistence on trying to stage manage all social media relating to herself will never work. Back away from it now Carrie. I got through the first section, as far as this: And then I gave up in utter despair. Am I the only one who absolutely loathes this vogue for people declaring that they know they're just lucky, 'privileged', 'had so much help!' etc? Because, love, I can guarantee you have more talent than me. I can't carry a tune in a bucket! I have 2 left feet. No-one wants to see me get up on a stage to sing and dance. And I'm pretty sure you've worked harder than me, since I have sensibly done the best I can to arrange my life so I can work to live instead of live to work. Those people sniping at you are wasting their time on the internet while you are working. They can't do what you do! They either don't have the talent or don't have the work ethic. Stop worrying about what every idiot on the internet thinks of you! If they're bitching about you, but still watching your vlogs and buying tickets to your show, then they are putting money in your pocket and you should be laughing all the way to the bank. If they're not, well then they're not the audience you're trying to entertain, and you can safely ignore them. Honestly, as a performer the best thing this woman can do is step away from the internet. Learn to ignore the bullsh*t. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2018 18:37:33 GMT
Yes almost people feel it is a crime to be white middle classed and privileged. Well if they feel that strong then donate as much of their wealth as they want to good causes but we don't want to keep reading about it.
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Post by martello736 on Aug 7, 2018 13:51:56 GMT
A bit late to this scandal, but that whole stage door thing that went on and on and on while everyone and their mum weighed in (Carrie's mum actually did) was over ONE person!? Not even a few people, one person!? No wonder she's made 650 of those "how to not annoy me at stage door" videos if she goes into full defensive mode every time one person criticises her.
Guru Gossiper doesn't seem like the worst place in the world. Is it not better that people air their grievances away from the YouTuber rather than in the comments section of their videos? An honest open conversation can never ensue because on social media the YouTuber has hundreds of people who'll leap to their defence no matter how wrong they may be, so is it not better to create a little microcosm where people can go and talk about how irritating they find Carrie's hair or whatever?
She needs to learn that she can't police the internet. People will say nasty things, some accurate, some woefully misinformed, but creating a storm over it every single time won't make it go away. Also, if she wants to get drunk with her friends (absolutely fine) then she perhaps shouldn't do it in full view of people who think they stand a chance of meeting her as it's a bit cruel. Better to go off to a different pub rather than leave kids/teens hopefully stood there for an hour not aware you're going to go out the opposite way once you're finished.
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Post by MrsCondomine on Aug 8, 2018 10:37:33 GMT
"Then I was touring with The Addams Family where I drank more than I ever have before which obviously didn’t help."
Stop whining and address it then oh my goooooood
And her books are really, really badly written (flicked through one the other day, one of the character's names changes between pages... oh dear).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2018 11:54:43 GMT
People on tour sometimes work hard and party hard but she'd finished the Addams family tour a while ago so if she moderated her drinking after that then weight would come off.
Performers work hard and need to relax and this will involve winding down and having a drink as long as it doesn't become an issue we'd never criticize anyone for doing it. Also doing 8 shows a week plus warm ups, I'd guess a performer would burn off a lot of calories and would need to eat and drink extra just to maintain their body weight.
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. It’s all pretty low level criticism, certainly nothing for Oliver to be calling people c***s for (I have not read every post since 2015 so please don’t come for me if someone said something vile). 