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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 11, 2023 10:33:27 GMT
Can't believe Kiss of the Spiderwoman has never been revived. While some shows date, that one seems to get more relevant all the time. I also want to see a revised Stephen Ward (and I mean properly revised, not tweaked) because I think there's a fascinating musical with really strong characters hiding in there. I know I'm in a minority, though. I'd also like to see... Billy Pal Joey Dear Anyone Mardi Gras The Magic Show (again, with a totally new book but that incredible score - you could weave an amazing book around those songs) Time (ideally in its original Time Lord incarnation) Fields of Ambrosia and, just because it feels very personal to me, Bernadette The People's Musical Stephen Ward should have a future but probably only if the focus is more on Profumo. No one really knows who Ward was. But Profumo is a known quantity. Make it more generally about the affair, restage it as a chamber piece set in a Soho nightclub and it might have legs.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 11, 2023 19:52:53 GMT
A Chorus Line
We need a proper revival of this. One that does it justice (which the Curve did not).
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Post by danb on Aug 11, 2023 20:03:30 GMT
I found the Palladium version a bit underwhelming too. I get that its meant to be gritty and ‘ooh its hard work this’, but a bit of glamour please!?!
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Post by toomasj on Aug 11, 2023 20:07:36 GMT
I tell you what I’d love. Brand new versions, completely new staging, sets, direction of… Wicked, Chicago and especially Blood Brothers.
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Post by Jon on Aug 11, 2023 20:11:39 GMT
I tell you what I’d love. Brand new versions, completely new staging, sets, direction of… Wicked, Chicago and especially Blood Brothers. There are non replica productions of Wicked globally. Blood Brothers I suspect we need to have Kenwright lose the rights before we get a new production that cost more than tuppence.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Aug 11, 2023 20:18:39 GMT
I found the Palladium version a bit underwhelming too. I get that it’s meant to be gritty and ‘ooh it’s hard work this’, but a bit of glamour please!?! There was nothin glam about those wigs at the Curve. I mean, it’s an empty stage and a few mirrors. The entire thing revolves around having fabulously talented actor/singer/dancers and a couple of high profile names to get bums on seats. it’s a no brainer surely? Get it out on tour!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2023 20:51:27 GMT
Has A Chorus Line had a major tour since 1997 when the late Adam Faith was Zach and a very young Tiffany Graves was in it. That tour got universally bad reviews.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Aug 11, 2023 21:30:23 GMT
A Chorus Line doesn't have the impact it once did, apart from the 'One' finale. None of it is topical or shocking as some of it would have been when it opened. The last Palladium production was a huge bomb at the BO. If you can't get a Maggie that can belt in At The Ballet, why are you even doing the show. It's the only exciting moment in the score.
Please bring back: Me and My Girl - a crowd pleaser with the right Bill Snibson (NOT Mr Stemp) Spider Woman Grand Hotel Moby Dick Closer to Heaven and a revamped Budgie - such a great score!!
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Post by SuttonPeron on Aug 11, 2023 21:35:18 GMT
Disagree about A Chorus Line. When it´s a copy of the original production, it´s sort of a "time capsule" reflecting a different period in Broadway history... yet still moving and incredibly relevant. I find that fascinating, and I just love the clever way it´s staged. Now, you change the orchestration and the choreography and staging (cough, Curve, cough)... and the charm gets lost.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Aug 12, 2023 3:10:20 GMT
When it´s a copy of the original production, it´s sort of a "time capsule" reflecting a different period in Broadway history... yet still moving and incredibly relevant. I find that fascinating, and I just love the clever way it´s staged. The Palladium production was none of those things. It was slow and laboured and paled in comparison to the 2016 San Fran/Broadway production.
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Aug 12, 2023 3:24:09 GMT
I forgot one - The Secret Garden (original version)
It would seem the perfect show for Regents Park Open Air
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Post by justsaying113 on Aug 12, 2023 8:16:56 GMT
I think (pages back) someone mentioned 'The Rink'. Could be a good, double-headed star vehicle. (Just not Staunton, please!).
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Post by adamkinsey on Aug 12, 2023 9:36:39 GMT
Nine. Tenderloin.
Plus a new series of Lost Musicals done as semi-staged concerts focusing on British musicals - Bless the Bride, And So To Bed, The Crooked Mile, Blitz, Belle as starters.
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Post by Fleance on Aug 12, 2023 10:03:04 GMT
Nine. Tenderloin. Plus a new series of Lost Musicals done as semi-staged concerts focusing on British musicals - Bless the Bride, And So To Bed, The Crooked Mile, Blitz, Belle as starters. Tenderloin (Bock/Harnick) has one of the best scores ever. The original cast album with Maurice Evans is brilliant. The new cast album, based on the Encores production, is fine, but not as good as the original. Sheldon Harnick met his wife, Margery Gray, who was in the cast of Tenderloin.
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Post by justsaying113 on Aug 12, 2023 10:03:11 GMT
Nine. Tenderloin. Plus a new series of Lost Musicals done as semi-staged concerts focusing on British musicals - Bless the Bride, And So To Bed, The Crooked Mile, Blitz, Belle as starters. 'Nine' is a great shout Adam - beautiful score.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Aug 12, 2023 10:28:47 GMT
What I'm seeing is people saying they want a replica of the original something to come back in some of these cases, not a revival. Isn't the whole point of a revival that it's different and a fresh take? Or at least has some kind of difference somewhere in there. You can think an original version of something can't be beaten or is perfect as is but you can't criticize a revival because it changed things and is different, because that was the whole point. You can of course dislike the changes, new parts and not think it's as good or does the original a disservice but the whole point was to be different and if a show just kept coming back exactly the same every single time it would be boring and there would be nothing for theatres to actually revive. Revivals might not always work and they might not always go down well with fans of the original but I like to see fresh takes.
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Post by danb on Aug 12, 2023 18:47:14 GMT
That’s a fair enough point but the Palladium run was hardly a radical reinvention. It was just really really boring, poorly cast and as drab as anything. I think that the majority of us on here truly want what we see to be good.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 13, 2023 16:26:14 GMT
I would welcome a full scale production of Victor Victoria. I saw it on Broadway a couple of weeks before Dame Julie left for her operation.
It is a great score and a pretty funny book.
With the right leading lady, it would make a fun night out
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 20:22:12 GMT
Ute Lemper would be an interesting choice for this role.
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Post by danb on Aug 13, 2023 20:29:17 GMT
Ute Lemper would be an interesting choice for this role. I know it was 25 years ago in November, but damn how good was Ute in ‘Chicago’? Her performance elevated it far beyond the quality of the material. Stunning.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2023 21:06:54 GMT
Ute Lemper would be an interesting choice for this role. I know it was 25 years ago in November, but damn how good was Ute in ‘Chicago’? Her performance elevated it far beyond the quality of the material. Stunning. She was amazing in that and still had a fine voice when I saw her doing her Marlene Dietrich concert in early 2020. She is 60 now but Dame Julie played the part when she was older than this so that shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 13, 2023 21:38:18 GMT
I have been listening to her Berlin Cabaret album recently. Outstanding in both languages
Das Lila Lied is still so relevant.
Not sure about her for Victoria.
But she would make me book to see her as Fraulein Schneider. That role, for me, has always been the real emotional core of Cabaret.
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Post by theatrenerd on Aug 14, 2023 23:03:17 GMT
I've been reading Frank Losser's biography in the Guys & Dolls programme at the Bridge and it mentions "A new stage version of his classic film Hans Christian Andersen, is currently in development."
Seeing as it was already adapted for the stage by Tommy Steele (who also starred) and Beverley Cross at the Palladium in the 70's, it sounds like that this could be more of a reinvention rather than a revival like Stiles, Drewe and Fellows' Half a Sixpence.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Aug 14, 2023 23:39:45 GMT
I've been reading Frank Losser's biography in the Guys & Dolls programme at the Bridge and it mentions "A new stage version of his classic film Hans Christian Andersen, is currently in development." Seeing as it was already adapted for the stage by Tommy Steele (who also starred) and Beverley Cross at the Palladium in the 70's, it sounds like that this could be more of a reinvention rather than a revival like Stiles, Drewe and Fellows' Half a Sixpence. I grew up listening to the Steele cast recording. "The King's New Clothes" "The Inch Worm" "I'm Hans Christian Andersen" "Wonderful Copenhagen" "Thumbelina" "The Ugly Duckling" "Anywhere I Wander" "No Two People" So many great songs for a family audience. Amazing how Jenny Lind features in this and Barnum. Can't be many real life characters who are featured in more than one musical It would need a great book rewrite and clever staging to bring it to life for modern audiences. But it would be good to see it in stage
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Post by bobbievanhusen on Aug 15, 2023 5:36:15 GMT
Great. Now i will have Inch Worm in my head all day... thanks oxfordsimon lol When I was a kid, everyone knew the songs from Hans Christian Anderson. They're classics! But I imagine young people today have barely heard of them, let alone sing them. The Greatest Showman is probably todays Hans Christian Anderson
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Post by peggysue on Aug 15, 2023 7:00:49 GMT
I've been reading Frank Losser's biography in the Guys & Dolls programme at the Bridge and it mentions "A new stage version of his classic film Hans Christian Andersen, is currently in development." Seeing as it was already adapted for the stage by Tommy Steele (who also starred) and Beverley Cross at the Palladium in the 70's, it sounds like that this could be more of a reinvention rather than a revival like Stiles, Drewe and Fellows' Half a Sixpence. I grew up listening to the Steele cast recording. "The King's New Clothes" "The Inch Worm" "I'm Hans Christian Andersen" "Wonderful Copenhagen" "Thumbelina" "The Ugly Duckling" "Anywhere I Wander" "No Two People" So many great songs for a family audience. Amazing how Jenny Lind features in this and Barnum. Can't be many real life characters who are featured in more than one musical It would need a great book rewrite and clever staging to bring it to life for modern audiences. But it would be good to see it in stage I still have the cast recording of this show on vinyl. Saw the show many times with Tommy Steele. Lovely family show
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Post by margoc on Aug 15, 2023 7:57:20 GMT
Billy elliot
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2023 14:45:19 GMT
Hans Christian Andersen was a great show and would be a wonderful star vehicle for the right performer.
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Post by Dawnstar on Aug 15, 2023 17:48:01 GMT
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Post by david on Aug 15, 2023 17:58:16 GMT
Toxic Avenger Saturday Night Fever (London Palladium version)
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