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Post by Mark on Apr 17, 2020 19:28:41 GMT
In the name of God we have to start limiting international tourists. Cut international travel and the theatre industry suffers too. Who do you thinks going to see a lot of these West End shows, and eating in all these central London restaurants? International travel will rebound, just maybe not as quickly as other industries.
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Post by londonpostie on Apr 17, 2020 19:30:19 GMT
No one said "cut".
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2020 21:45:33 GMT
And I'm just stating a contrary opinion so not sure why you are getting so defensive. If you post something on a forum then surely it is for the purpose of discussion and debate? Nothing aggressive, just confirming I had the right person. You were aggressive - unpleasant and aggressive, in fact.
I don’t think we will be engaging again.
I am genuinely at a loss and feeling rather set upon by. If you aren't willing to engage in debate then I genuinely am not sure why you are posting on a forum, and if you really don't want to debate you don't have to respond. Why pointing that out has caused offense, I'm not sure and you haven't explained. But you certainly don't have to set upon me without even bothering to take it up with me in private. Consider yourself reported and blocked, because I am really upset by your decision to publicly attack me for no apparent reason.
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Post by Mark on Apr 18, 2020 4:11:46 GMT
Cut/Limit. Same Difference. It will come down to capacity and cost over anything else.
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Post by londonpostie on Apr 18, 2020 7:44:13 GMT
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Post by alece10 on Apr 18, 2020 8:07:58 GMT
Now I dont have my cleaner I have to do it myself which I hate but it has to be done so each day I'm just doing a room at a time so that I've got something to do. Still working but able to work from home once a week which is better than nothing. Yesterday a neighbour left a tomato plant outside my door as they had lots of seedlings. I love all these little gestures and they make a huge difference. This weekend I need to cut my front hedge before it gets out of control. Not sure how im going to work this yet as I'm not going to be able to keep 2 meters away from people walking along the pavement. Has to be done or the hedge will stick out too far. So do I annoy neighbours by cutting the hedge early in the morning or annoy people walking along who will have to swerve me. Either way someone isnt going to be happy.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2020 17:08:07 GMT
Now I dont have my cleaner I have to do it myself which I hate but it has to be done so each day I'm just doing a room at a time so that I've got something to do. Still working but able to work from home once a week which is better than nothing. Yesterday a neighbour left a tomato plant outside my door as they had lots of seedlings. I love all these little gestures and they make a huge difference. This weekend I need to cut my front hedge before it gets out of control. Not sure how im going to work this yet as I'm not going to be able to keep 2 meters away from people walking along the pavement. Has to be done or the hedge will stick out too far. So do I annoy neighbours by cutting the hedge early in the morning or annoy people walking along who will have to swerve me. Either way someone isnt going to be happy. I had to do that last weekend and just tried to pick a quieter time of day. People generally swerved without any fuss - they probably would have done pre-lockdown anyway given I was wielding a saw!
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Post by ruby on Apr 18, 2020 18:44:19 GMT
The main thing I'm really missing about going out and theatre in particular is focus. When I'm at home, unless I'm completely captivated by something, I struggle to concentrate and end up half watching it while messing about on my phone. I love in the theatre that the lights are down and all that's required of me is to sit back and (hopefully) enjoy.
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Post by Forrest on Apr 18, 2020 18:46:58 GMT
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 18, 2020 21:38:21 GMT
The main thing I'm really missing about going out and theatre in particular is focus. When I'm at home, unless I'm completely captivated by something, I struggle to concentrate and end up half watching it while messing about on my phone. I love in the theatre that the lights are down and all that's required of me is to sit back and (hopefully) enjoy.
I sort of agree with this but I also quite like that I can do something else at the same time if I want to. There's so much being streamed that I'm watching 2 operas/ballets almost every day so sometimes I'm sewing or doing a jigsaw or playing Freecell at the same time as just staring at a screen for about 6 hours a day can get a bit much.
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Post by showgirl on Apr 19, 2020 4:06:32 GMT
I too am finding it hard to focus and to motivate myself. I'm a very driven person who normally fills every spare moment so relaxing in the sense of sitting down and doing just one thing (eg reading) is hard, and something I struggle with even in the theatre and cinema - which is why I choose only to see plays and films live, in a large, dedicated space. It's not that I don't still have plenty to do at home but I find it hard to balance those things with the rest and relaxation part and the worst of all is having no time alone there to myself as my partner, who rarely went out even before Covid-19, is now almost always there.
So not only has his lifestyle barely changed but almost improved, as he likes having me there, whereas I feel like a wild animal caught and confined to a small, shared cage. And yes, I do know that my situation is trivial compared to that of thousands of others who are grappling with illness, death, childcare, financial concerns, etc, so not feeling entitled to be anxious and stressed adds guilt to the mix. Walking is saving my sanity so far...
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Post by peggs on Apr 19, 2020 12:23:21 GMT
showgirl feel anxious, feel stressed, don't feel guilty for doing so as others are in worse places. There is no right way to respond to this, though anxiety and stress sounds pretty reasonable. Here should be a safe space for sharing how you feel.
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Post by Forrest on Apr 19, 2020 13:48:15 GMT
showgirl, I fully agree with peggs - this is a good place to come and vent about all the things that are not great at the moment. Or talk about those that are, but most people's lists of these seem not to be too long these days... I recognise myself in your inability to focus: I started watching a film last night ('Parasite', finally) and only finished it this morning, because my mind kept wandering. I'm normally like this - when I am watching something on my laptop I play with my phone all the time, I think about the things I should be doing, about songs... It's one of the reasons I, too, miss live performances, because they make me focus and forget about everything else. Although I think I miss talking about theatre (in particular) even more than I miss seeing it. (I thought this morning about the feeling of joy when I met someone randomly in the auditorium on the evening when I went to see 'Afterplay' and had the most delightful conversation about 'Uncle Vanya' and the character of Sonya and how and why Rickson and Haidar chose to portray her as they did... I so miss that! I miss people being interesting and insightful and pointing out their own obvious to me...) Lately, I have been torn between the feeling of guilt for not doing enough creative things during the lockdown (together with people saying 'No' to me, which always feels like a personal failure, or worse yet, saying nothing at all), and my own silly perfectionism that makes it hard to do what I want (because I never think anything I create is good enough), which has somehow gotten me into a bit of a state of... frustration with myself. Walks help, yes. Running too. And dark chocolate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 16:05:16 GMT
Monthly deliveries really should be a part of any health insurance plan. 70% cacao or better. Perhaps with a little sea salt.
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Post by sfsusan on Apr 19, 2020 16:14:52 GMT
Last few days though, with all these people talking about exit strategies and ‘getting back to normal’ it’s all kicking off again. The same for me, until I realized just because "they" open up things, doesn't mean I have to go out. Medically, I suspect that point should probably come AFTER we have universal testing, a vaccine and treatments (just like we have for flu and other known hazards).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 16:45:00 GMT
Last few days though, with all these people talking about exit strategies and ‘getting back to normal’ it’s all kicking off again. The same for me, until I realized just because "they" open up things, doesn't mean I have to go out. Medically, I suspect that point should probably come AFTER we have universal testing, a vaccine and treatments (just like we have for flu and other known hazards). Not your fault, it’s the quoting system’s fault, but just to say that the second quote wasn’t by me. On that quote, however, I agree with sfsusan’s reply. Before that point, I’d be fine if people were still supported if they didn’t take that gamble, rather than being forced to do so.
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Post by Forrest on Apr 19, 2020 16:55:13 GMT
Monthly deliveries really should be a part of any health insurance plan. 70% cacao or better. Perhaps with a little sea salt. You must be my chocolate-soulmate @stevena: this week's poison of choice is Green & Black's Velvet Edition Sea Salt dark chocolate. Normally I go for 85% cocoa or higher, but I love their Velvet Edition line so I bought a few during my last visit to Sainsbury's. (I am currently contemplating a Gnaw order, as part of the decision to support my favourite small businesses...)
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Post by londonpostie on Apr 19, 2020 16:56:11 GMT
This weekend I need to cut my front hedge before it gets out of control. * not a euphemism. Safe to keep reading.
Yesteday I read a local vicar say on Twitter he's lost 2 stone during the lockdown - he's T1 diabetic and decided to go full protein during the virus.
Even so, seems a lot - maybe one of those Atkins Diet things where you lose a lot of water. Anyway it's convinced me. This sitting around is not doing me any favours.
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Post by lynette on Apr 19, 2020 17:40:09 GMT
Haven’t dared try on any ‘best’ trousers! A good day, in the garden, potting and pottering. Beginning to worry about hairdressers.....
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 19, 2020 21:14:17 GMT
Before that point, I’d be fine if people were still supported if they didn’t take that gamble, rather than being forced to do so. You can't be forced to leave your own home though, surely? I suppose if you have children then you can be forced to send them to school but I can't think of any way that adults can be forced to leave their homes, assuming they're not in jail.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2020 21:42:59 GMT
Before that point, I’d be fine if people were still supported if they didn’t take that gamble, rather than being forced to do so. You can't be forced to leave your own home though, surely? I suppose if you have children then you can be forced to send them to school but I can't think of any way that adults can be forced to leave their homes, assuming they're not in jail. Maybe compelled is a better word. EDIT: Actually, the dictionary says the meaning is similar. I'm trying to say that it could be outside forces that are being placed on you, such as being threatened with the sack or losing access to support.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 19, 2020 21:56:14 GMT
Maybe compelled is a better word. EDIT: Actually, the dictionary says the meaning is similar. I'm trying to say that it could be outside forces that are being placed on you, such as being threatened with the sack or losing access to support. I'd say that losing your job is better than contracting a potentially fatal disease. But I guess I'm lucky that as a temp I was able to resign with immediate effect last month rather than having a notice period. Ah, I didn't think about jobseekers' allowance, I guess that could be an issue if the online option is withdrawn.
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Post by clair on Apr 20, 2020 8:41:44 GMT
Maybe compelled is a better word. EDIT: Actually, the dictionary says the meaning is similar. I'm trying to say that it could be outside forces that are being placed on you, such as being threatened with the sack or losing access to support. I'd say that losing your job is better than contracting a potentially fatal disease. But I guess I'm lucky that as a temp I was able to resign with immediate effect last month rather than having a notice period. Ah, I didn't think about jobseekers' allowance, I guess that could be an issue if the online option is withdrawn. Losing my job would also mean losing my home as I wouldn't be able to cover the mortgage etc so once my place of work is able to open I'll be there. After all, around 170,000 people die from cancer and suicide in this country every year not to mention the thousands who die from general flu/pneumonia so I have a higher chance of those killing me and have never allowed that to rule my life. I work for a good company who I know will put in place all the appropriate measures to protect staff and will be supportive should I fall ill and I won't be taking unnecessary risks but I do have to pay the bills. Plus I love my job, I enjoy what I do and admit to missing it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2020 21:20:08 GMT
Sunny out. That helps a lot.
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Post by Dawnstar on Apr 20, 2020 22:26:58 GMT
Plus I love my job, I enjoy what I do and admit to missing it. Whereas I hate going out to work & would love never to have to do so again! It's so much the actual work, though as a temp I tened to get the most boring stuff to do, it's the being surrounded by other people all the time.
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