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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 10:14:59 GMT
Do you feel personally shunned by Denise Gough or something?
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Post by bordeaux on Jan 27, 2017 10:15:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 10:16:00 GMT
Oh cool. It's been a while since I saw it but iirc festen felt fairly 'theatrical' to begin with; mostly set in a single house, sticking to the paired down dogme style and whatnot... The stage version of Festen is theatrical in a different way from the movie. It was very fluid and rich, like a lot of Rufus Norris's shows. |
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Post by jadnoop on Jan 27, 2017 10:20:51 GMT
I'm (happily) surprised that this is being put on so soon after The Flick. I know it was on a bunch of critical top tens, but I got the feeling that it wasn't such a success financially; iirc it didn't sell out, and the night there seemed to be quite a few empty seats (and more after the interval). Really looking forward to this, but if the tone is similar, I wonder how successful it will be. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 10:22:17 GMT
Do you feel personally shunned by Denise Gough or something? No, because I saw PP&T in the Dorfman and it wasn't really my thing. Denise Gough doing manic kickettes irritated me. Most of the show's praise and success focused on her performance and she is being deployed in the production's American expedition. But the UK taxpayers outside London who fund the NT and Headlong (and Home, I think the new co-producer) are to be denied the key ingredient. |
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Post by bordeaux on Jan 27, 2017 10:29:29 GMT
A warning for those considering going to see Pinocchio at Christmas; it's directed by John Tiffany who must bear at least some of the responsibility for The Twits (along with adapter Enda Walsh) at the Royal Court a couple of years ago, the worst children's show I've ever seen.
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Post by bordeaux on Jan 27, 2017 10:32:04 GMT
Do you feel personally shunned by Denise Gough or something? No, because I saw PP&T in the Dorfman and it wasn't really my thing. Denise Gough doing manic kickettes irritated me. Most of the show's praise and success focused on her performance and she is being deployed in the production's American expedition. But the UK taxpayers outside London who fund the NT and Headlong (and Home, I think the new co-producer) are to be denied the key ingredient. True, but does anyone begrudge her the opportunity to shine on Broadway? And one hopes the NT will make some money out of it which will go back into more plays... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 10:39:59 GMT
A warning for those considering going to see Pinocchio at Christmas; it's directed by John Tiffany who must bear at least some of the responsibility for The Twits (along with adapter Enda Walsh) at the Royal Court a couple of years ago, the worst children's show I've ever seen. Yeah, but John Tiffany also did The Cursed Child, which was at least well-directed, and Enda Walsh did Lazarus, which even the fans admit is incoherent. I know who *I'm* blaming for The Twits being so poor... |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jan 27, 2017 10:40:18 GMT
Next American show: John by Annie Baker. Ironically they've recently done a play called John in the Lytterton, one of the worst things I have ever seen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 11:11:15 GMT
So, will Angels in America be extended at the NT??? In the new brochure (up to July) there's a big hole for a new Lyttelton show to preview in mid-June and then play in rep in July. But nothing has been announced today for the Lyttelton until Network in November. So Angels in America may be planned to play through to October or November? Partially recast, with Denise Gough off to America with People, Places and Things, (shunning the UK tour). Further unfounded speculation: My Country; a work in progress could play a few performances in the Lyttelton in June and July after its UK tour, if it is a success. |
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Post by lynette on Jan 27, 2017 12:00:10 GMT
Rory, Macbeth, AM Duff - what's not to like? Macbeth on GCSE syllabus so a good choice 😅😅
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Post by rumbledoll on Jan 27, 2017 12:16:53 GMT
As much as I love Rory I'm unsure he'll shine in this particular part (judging by the bit they filmed for RSC's Shakespeare 400 last year) though I think AM Duff was born to play Lady M, she was perfect!
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Post by mrbarnaby on Jan 27, 2017 12:26:55 GMT
So so bored of the NT continually using Kinnear and Duff.. there are other actors out there aren't there?
It's like years of Simon Russell Beale all over again.
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Post by callum on Jan 27, 2017 12:27:27 GMT
Do you feel personally shunned by Denise Gough or something? No, because I saw PP&T in the Dorfman and it wasn't really my thing. Denise Gough doing manic kickettes irritated me. Most of the show's praise and success focused on her performance and she is being deployed in the production's American expedition. But the UK taxpayers outside London who fund the NT and Headlong (and Home, I think the new co-producer) are to be denied the key ingredient. But now the UK taxpayers are going to get a better actress considering Denise Gough was so irritating?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 16:06:55 GMT
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Post by AddisonMizner on Jan 27, 2017 16:14:32 GMT
Any chance of more tour dates for PEOPLE, PLACES AND THINGS do you think? I'm in two minds about seeing it without Gough, as her performance was astonishing. However, the play should stand up as it is extremely well-written.
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Post by zahidf on Jan 27, 2017 16:26:56 GMT
They casted Olivia Coleman in that didn't they?
It's at the dorfman in July, so maybe it will be in the May booking period?
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Post by dave72 on Jan 27, 2017 16:36:40 GMT
No mention at all of the previously announced Antony & Cleopatra with Fiennes - I wonder if it's still on. Good spot! It seems to have been usurped by Macbeth and his Lady. From the " Coming up at the NT 2017 and beyond" page: Simon Godwin's new production of Antony & Cleopatra by William Shakespeare, with Ralph Fiennes as Antony, is now planned for later in 2018. |
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Post by Jon on Jan 27, 2017 16:40:10 GMT
I'm guessing Fiennes or Godwin had a scheduling conflict for them to push it back
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Post by bellboard27 on Jan 27, 2017 17:05:43 GMT
it might be the scheduling of the asp. Trained asps (at least those trained to NT standards) are in short supply.
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Post by moelhywel on Jan 27, 2017 17:10:40 GMT
Any chance of more tour dates for PEOPLE, PLACES AND THINGS do you think? I'm in two minds about seeing it without Gough, as her performance was astonishing. However, the play should stand up as it is extremely well-written. A listing of tour dates is on West End Wilma here: www.westendwilma.com/news-people-places-things-uk-tour/ |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 17:11:08 GMT
I'm guessing Fiennes or Godwin had a scheduling conflict for them to push it back I remember there were rumours of Finnes taking either The Master Builder or Richard III to the West End and or Broadway, so perhaps it's one of those? |
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Post by Jon on Jan 27, 2017 17:20:01 GMT
I'm guessing Fiennes or Godwin had a scheduling conflict for them to push it back I remember there were rumours of Finnes taking either The Master Builder or Richard III to the West End and or Broadway, so perhaps it's one of those? Possible or it could a film commitment that has arisen |
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Post by Jon on Jan 27, 2017 18:30:28 GMT
It's interesting that Network is being produced in association with commercial producers, I assume they brought it to the National and have developed it beforehand.
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Post by Jan on Jan 27, 2017 18:49:04 GMT
As much as I love Rory I'm unsure he'll shine in this particular part (judging by the bit they filmed for RSC's Shakespeare 400 last year) though I think AM Duff was born to play Lady M, she was perfect! It is odd they seem to be making a virtue of the fact Norris hasn't directed any Shakespeare for 25 years. |
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