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Post by Matt on Dec 2, 2023 21:15:26 GMT
I found tonight all quite anti climatic. Laytons dance was good but they weren’t dancing together enough, it was like the pro dance at the start of a show. Ellie and Vito spent half of it not dancing, bobbys “nobody puts baby in the corner” made the whole thing cringe, and the lift was rubbish, Annabels dance was just a bit boring. Also, don’t they usually do 2 dances in the quarter? I know Nigel was meant to dance but it just seemed padded out.
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Post by justfran on Dec 2, 2023 21:17:18 GMT
A shame Nigel has had to leave the competition. I personally think they should have just finished the whole thing a week earlier.
Ellie and Vito - I enjoyed their character work. Found the other dancers slightly distracting.
Annabel and Johannes - a lovely dance that did reflect their friendship. Didn’t deserve to be bottom of the leaderboard.
Layton and Nikita - excellent and I think they really deserve the first 40 of the series.
Bobby and Dianne - not great, quite an awkward routine I felt. It’s a tricky song since it is so well known and everyone is waiting for the lift, which unfortunately wasn’t great so how anyone thought it deserved a 9?!
Did we all spot Strictly fan Tom Hiddleston in the audience? 😊
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Post by Matt on Dec 2, 2023 22:16:51 GMT
Did we all spot Strictly fan Tom Hiddleston in the audience? 😊 Yes! And I can’t remember where I saw him talking about it in the last week, was it Graham Norton or the one show or something? |
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Post by theatreian on Dec 2, 2023 22:52:52 GMT
For Good is a lovely song that's pretty easy to sing well if you learn the timing properly. Tonight's version was bloody terrible. Yes I wondered what had happened to it, it sounded awful as if one singer kept cutting in. It's a fairly straight forward song too! |
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Post by karloscar on Dec 2, 2023 22:58:21 GMT
Michael Bennett and Bob Avian will be spinning in their graves with both Strictly and It Takes Two crediting their work on A Chorus Line to Fosse.
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Post by justfran on Dec 3, 2023 7:58:28 GMT
Did we all spot Strictly fan Tom Hiddleston in the audience? 😊 Yes! And I can’t remember where I saw him talking about it in the last week, was it Graham Norton or the one show or something? He was on radio 2 with Zoe Ball - a clip was shared to their socials and it was shown on It Takes Two last week when Ellie and Vito were on. |
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Post by TallPaul on Dec 3, 2023 14:30:22 GMT
"Hello. Is that Fisherman's Friends: The Musical? It's Strictly Come Dancing here. We've got five minutes to fill on tonight's show. I know it's really short notice, but you couldn't put something together for us, could you?"
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 3, 2023 15:29:48 GMT
Strictly Spoiler still did their poll yesterday
Ellie and Vito 34.50% (16267 votes)
Annabel and Johannes 26.85% (12660 votes)
Bobby and Dianne 23.03% (10861 votes)
Layton and Nikita 15.63% (7369 votes)
They also did a poll as who people wanted in the final
Ellie and Vito 32.10% (20808 votes)
Annabel and Johannes 26.98% (17485 votes)
Bobby and Dianne 26.61% (17248 votes)
Layton and Nikita 14.31% (9277 votes)
It doesn't appear that Nigel's votes are likely to transfer to Layton
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 3, 2023 16:40:10 GMT
Whoever thought it was a good idea to have Bobby sqwawking “Nobody puts baby in the corner” at the start of that… shame on you.
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Post by danb on Dec 3, 2023 17:21:19 GMT
No. More. Show. Dances. They always used to be saved for the final but Layton has done one the last six weeks.
…and no more whiney, playing the victim.
Does anyone know which theatre they were in at the beginning ?
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 3, 2023 18:46:26 GMT
Maybe because I'm a male and not British but I (genuinely) I just do not get the love and affection for the Dirty Dancing film!
The stage show was one of the worst things I've seen in my life.
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Post by Matt on Dec 3, 2023 19:46:16 GMT
So is Layton gonna do the full female part in their rumba next week?
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Post by danb on Dec 3, 2023 20:02:36 GMT
Maybe because I'm a male and not British but I (genuinely) I just do not get the love and affection for the Dirty Dancing film! The stage show was one of the worst things I've seen in my life. Nor is it a musical…its a bleedin’ play with people singing in the background. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 3, 2023 20:10:25 GMT
What was that dirge that Joss Stone sang?
That won't have sold a single ticket to that show.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2023 21:41:56 GMT
Dirty Dancing has always been a very popular film in the UK I assume mainly the female audience liking the late great Patrick Swayze. It had a couple of good songs and has now become one of those "hen party" musicals which more mature middle aged ladies who liked the film first time around may still attend.
The lift and the line are iconic moments but do they need to do it almost every year in Strictly.
I haven't watched the dances fully yet but the above comments seem to be on the money as usual.
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Post by curiouskc on Dec 3, 2023 22:16:37 GMT
No. More. Show. Dances. They always used to be saved for the final but Layton has done one the last six weeks. I can't believe Layton's the only one getting slammed for this after Ellie & Vito literally performed on an opening scene from a show, for which Ellie spent half the routine just walking around with a book or being twirled by backing dancers. Musicals Week is a showy week and that's fine. I thought the Paso rocked. Nikita is becoming such a mad scientist with his choreography and I'm here for it. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when he's directing the backing dancers like..."Yes, yes, drag Layton across the floor while he's in the splits and then throw him over my head." |
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 4, 2023 8:20:48 GMT
I can’t remember, is the winner determined purely from the public vote?
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Post by ruthieh on Dec 4, 2023 8:41:44 GMT
I can’t remember, is the winner determined purely from the public vote? Yes |
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Post by ladidah on Dec 4, 2023 9:42:36 GMT
It's really frustrating to be labelled a hater or homophobic for not being a fan of Layton's weekly show dances.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 4, 2023 10:23:03 GMT
I can’t remember, is the winner determined purely from the public vote? Yes Thanks, so on that basis he isn’t going to win it and assuming he and Nikita know that maybe they’re just having as much fun as they can with it. |
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Post by NorthernAlien on Dec 4, 2023 10:34:01 GMT
Thanks, so on that basis he isn’t going to win it and assuming he and Nikita know that maybe they’re just having as much fun as they can with it. This is also, for my money, why they did the roll-over this week - otherwise it would be a two-person final, with, presumably, Ellie and Layton, and hence zero tension whatsoever (because whilst I quite like him, he isn't going to win the public vote). |
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Post by curiouskc on Dec 5, 2023 8:55:32 GMT
It's really frustrating to be labelled a hater or homophobic for not being a fan of Layton's weekly show dances. That's not what is happening. There was a surge of negativity towards Layton last week, some of it from Angela fans taking her exit out on him, some from viewers who've always objected to Layton's previous dance experience and some from actual homophobic bigots who have just been waiting for the chance to unleash. The latter of these examples is really happening and you don't have to search far (FB, X) to find it. "Not being a Layton fan" is fine - enjoy other contestants and vote for them instead. But targeting Layton personally for a lot of stuff out of his control - i.e., the judges' choice of who to save, Nikita's choreography, etc - is uncalled for and misplaced I feel. Plus it has the side effect of emboldening a bunch of truly nasty people who'll jump at the opportunity to aim online abuse a queer celebrity. And it's not just trolls on the internet but news outlets like GB-news (not exactly known for being queer friendly) who will gleefully amplify that animosity. I also don't think it's fair to accuse Layton of "whining" or "playing the victim" when he didn't actually say anything about it on Saturday night. Motsi and Nikita decided to speak out and that was mostly just to commended Layton for NOT falling into a victim mentality. |
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 5, 2023 10:44:42 GMT
But legitimate criticism of the routine and of the performance is just that. People should not be silenced if they have valid points to make.
Layton isn't responsible for the choreography. But he is responsible for his side of things. And it is right that his flaws are pointed out.
His journey through the competition was predictable. He is a talented, experienced dancer and has had to learn the disciplines of Latin and Ballroom.
And it is in the basics where he has been picked up. He can do all the flashy tricks and showmanship brilliantly. But the delivery of many of the basics has not been properly secured.
Being a good dancer to start with doesn't mean you will automatically be good at ballroom. But you do start with an enhanced understanding of your body, rhythm, musicality and how to learn choreography.
He is the Ashley Roberts of the season.
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Post by ladidah on Dec 5, 2023 10:50:59 GMT
It's really frustrating to be labelled a hater or homophobic for not being a fan of Layton's weekly show dances. That's not what is happening. There was a surge of negativity towards Layton last week, some of it from Angela fans taking her exit out on him, some from viewers who've always objected to Layton's previous dance experience and some from actual homophobic bigots who have just been waiting for the chance to unleash. The latter of these examples is really happening and you don't have to search far (FB, X) to find it. "Not being a Layton fan" is fine - enjoy other contestants and vote for them instead. But targeting Layton personally for a lot of stuff out of his control - i.e., the judges' choice of who to save, Nikita's choreography, etc - is uncalled for and misplaced I feel. Plus it has the side effect of emboldening a bunch of truly nasty people who'll jump at the opportunity to aim online abuse a queer celebrity. And it's not just trolls on the internet but news outlets like GB-news (not exactly known for being queer friendly) who will gleefully amplify that animosity. I also don't think it's fair to accuse Layton of "whining" or "playing the victim" when he didn't actually say anything about it on Saturday night. Motsi and Nikita decided to speak out and that was mostly just to commended Layton for NOT falling into a victim mentality. It may not be everyone's experience, but when I talk about Layton a few people assume I'm homophobic or being nasty, when I'm just not a fan. I don't think he whines at all, he's been very stoic and professional. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 13:34:37 GMT
I think it is fair enough people saying Layton isn't doing all the dances how they might be technically done but he isn't chereographing the routines and we have pro dancers on the judges panel who could mark that down if they so wanted.
The fact that Layton is in an all male partnership or is gay has nothing to do with how he is marked and some quarters may be having an indirect pop at this which in 2023 is very sad. Layton is a performer and may come across as OTT in his demeanour when he is in performance mode.
Strictly is a diverse show and if people have an issue with Layton then why are they watching and how do they cope with Johannes then!
If Amanda hadn't pull out then there would have been an elimination last week and the final becomes a 3 person one. But with only 4 left you cannot do it and if there was a public surge for Bobby and Annabel then it could have been Ellie and Layton in the bottom 2.
Judges scores on points position was :-
Layton 4
Ellie 3
Bobby 2
Annabel 1
Say public vote had gone and points awarded for that were :-
Annabel 4
Bobby 3
Ellie 2
Layton 1
All conestants are on 5 points but those with biggest public vote are safe thus dance off would have been Ellie and Layton. If we go on Saturday's dances then Layton was stronger so likely Ellie got voted out!
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