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Post by xanady on Jul 28, 2019 18:55:25 GMT
Lucky to take my daughter as a tiny little thing on stage in the interval of CATS to meet Old Deuteronomy.Her love of musical theatre began with this show.We were front stalls and the cast came into the audience and one of them sat on the arm of her seat in The Naming Of Cats and serenaded her.What a Memory! Many years earlier I was blessed to see the original at the New London on the revolve with a group of amazed students who loved every second of this. There are fans of CATS worldwide and couple this with the massive Taylor Swift fan-base and the world-famous song,’MEMORY’, and this could be as big as Showman....or not...we shall see?The Theatreboard posters will not decide its fate.Also,trailers are meant to generate interest......result!
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Post by Fleance on Jul 29, 2019 1:03:05 GMT
Back to the Growltiger discussion for a moment: I've just listened to the segment -- my favorite in the show. I'm afraid that the reason the Growltiger/Billy M'Caw segment may not be used much these days is that it's NOT PC (although it may be favored in certain circles):
"But most to cats of foreign race his hatred had been vowed To cats of foreign name and race, no quarter was allowed..."
and later in the segment:
"Then Genghis gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian hordes Abandoning their sampans, the chinks they swarmed aboard..."
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Post by tom on Jul 29, 2019 6:39:21 GMT
Back to the Growltiger discussion for a moment: I've just listened to the segment -- my favorite in the show. I'm afraid that the reason the Growltiger/Billy M'Caw segment may not be used much these days is that it's NOT PC (although it may be favored in certain circles): "But most to cats of foreign race his hatred had been vowed To cats of foreign name and race, no quarter was allowed..."and later in the segment: "Then Genghis gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian hordes Abandoning their sampans, the chinks they swarmed aboard..."They have changed the lyrics since so it isn’t as bad.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 15:28:18 GMT
Interesting video on the VFX in the movie Just watched this, fascinating. Thanks for sharing that. So it sounds like Taylor Swift was just wrong when she said no motion-capture was used.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2019 19:38:12 GMT
Was hoping the CD might have appeared with a release date on Amazon by now.
Mainly as I would like to see the track listing.
Anyway, not long to go now....
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Post by djp on Oct 6, 2019 20:08:29 GMT
Back to the Growltiger discussion for a moment: I've just listened to the segment -- my favorite in the show. I'm afraid that the reason the Growltiger/Billy M'Caw segment may not be used much these days is that it's NOT PC (although it may be favored in certain circles): "But most to cats of foreign race his hatred had been vowed To cats of foreign name and race, no quarter was allowed..."and later in the segment: "Then Genghis gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian hordes Abandoning their sampans, the chinks they swarmed aboard..."Given the world is still formed up mostly in nation states and there's currently a very high level of conflict between many of them, and specific groups attacking them, with some humdinger major wars on the verge of breaking out, the viewers would have to be ridiculously naive and out of contact with reality, to imagine that conflict had vanished or was fought out otherwise. The second quote is clearly a reference to Genghis Khan who indeed led a Mongol horde , who were indeed fierce- unless modern history teaches they were peace loving misunderstood pony riders who just went roaming over all Asia .. The only objectionable word is chinks- and its easily replaced by Chinese, or if they want to be neutral and not offend a big market, you can replace it with a whole range of words from crew to invaders , or none .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 10:24:11 GMT
Was hoping the CD might have appeared with a release date on Amazon by now. Mainly as I would like to see the track listing. Anyway, not long to go now.... Track listing is on the Cats IMDb page
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 10:34:05 GMT
Was hoping the CD might have appeared with a release date on Amazon by now. Mainly as I would like to see the track listing. Anyway, not long to go now.... Track listing is on the Cats IMDb page Thanks. Just looked! So pretty much identical to the stage show :-)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 11:00:39 GMT
Bearing in mind that the IMDb publishes information provided by members of the public, so that could easily be a "helpful" random person who's just copied the song list from the stage show and pasted it for the movie without actually having the insider knowledge that would render their song list legitimate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2019 11:49:01 GMT
Bearing in mind that the IMDb publishes information provided by members of the public, so that could easily be a "helpful" random person who's just copied the song list from the stage show and pasted it for the movie without actually having the insider knowledge that would render their song list legitimate. OK that sounds more likely - slightly suspicious that it's IDENTICAL!
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Post by olliebean on Oct 7, 2019 20:53:01 GMT
Any song list that doesn't include a new Oscar-baiting song is not to be trusted.
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Post by ceebee on Oct 7, 2019 22:12:09 GMT
Any song list that doesn't include a new Oscar-baiting song is not to be trusted. I would imagine for the film of Cats to go ahead there would have been some kind of claws in the contract for a new song. Could just be a tall tail though. Paws for thought.
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Post by Deal J on Oct 8, 2019 10:46:51 GMT
I'm refraining from saying anything catty about these puns, even though I usually have no qualms calling a spayed 'a spayed'.
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Post by musicalmarge on Oct 8, 2019 11:34:26 GMT
Will there be a new song?
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Post by justsaying113 on Oct 8, 2019 11:36:24 GMT
I'm sure (!) the film will be better but, having now seen the trailer three times, jeez it looks dull.
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Post by crowblack on Oct 9, 2019 20:53:52 GMT
Oh - I just saw a tweet saying it was the LFF surprise film but another says it's not. Ah well, was looking forward to reviews!
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Post by alicechallice on Oct 9, 2019 23:05:25 GMT
LFF surprise film was Uncut Gems. Would be very surprised if they're not still finishing effects on Cats right up until the eleventh hour.
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Post by anita on Oct 25, 2019 9:09:34 GMT
I see as predicted there is a new song "Beautiful Ghosts".
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Post by olliebean on Oct 25, 2019 22:21:48 GMT
I see as predicted there is a new song "Beautiful Ghosts". Bits of it can be heard in the video here:
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Post by d'James on Oct 25, 2019 23:44:29 GMT
I see as predicted there is a new song "Beautiful Ghosts". Bits of it can be heard in the video here: ‘Ambition and aspiration to have a new song in the movie.’ (To get an Oscar nomination more like.)
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Post by johartuk on Oct 26, 2019 14:38:32 GMT
Listening to those two short clips of the song, I think I prefer the 'in film' one to Taylor Swift's. I dislike that breathy style of singing that Taylor (in common with a lot of young female pop singers) does, where it sounds like she's feeling worn out.
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Post by stokerob on Nov 6, 2019 19:44:25 GMT
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 6, 2019 21:37:17 GMT
Not gonna lie to you, I have been pondering this one for a while.
Now, just to clarify, I do think about things other that musical theatre and performers. However with this one, I feel like Tevye .
On one hand, I think why?
Why produce another film? What was wrong with the old one? As least that version is truer to the stage version, in terms of the costumes, sets, etc.
Whilst I appreciate the need to recognise the stars, from the clip I've seen, they look nothing like the original
Why is there a need to for a gender swap for certain characters? What was wrong with the original?
So many questions?
Just why?
Will I go and see this at the cinema? Of course.
I have to admit that when I went to see The Lion King re-make they showed the clip that everyone has seen and despite the above, I got goosebumps.
On the other hand, anything that's going to introduce a new audience to musical theatre that wouldn't have given it the time of day before, I'm behind
It also introduces a new generation to an old classic.
"Tradition!"
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Post by fiyero on Nov 15, 2019 7:16:39 GMT
Taylor Swift’s song has been released. Reminds me of the winners song from I Can’t Sing: The X Factor Musical.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 7:39:08 GMT
Does sound very typical of the latter Lloyd Webber stuff. Do like it. There's echoes of the "My Christine" motif from LND and also the verse of the song he wrote for the end of Wizard of Oz (was it called "No Place Like Home?")
Lovely melody but not life changing.
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Post by johartuk on Nov 15, 2019 12:39:30 GMT
The song itself is OK, but Taylor Swift's voice annoys me - it's the breathy affectedness that gets on my last nerve. It seems to infest popular music at the moment, in part due to the John Lewis Christmas ads where they use breathy, affected cover versions of popular songs.
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Post by ali973 on Nov 15, 2019 15:37:56 GMT
I like it. I'm getting "Already Home" (Wizard of Oz) vibes, esp in the beginning.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 16:36:53 GMT
I like it. I'm getting "Already Home" (Wizard of Oz) vibes, esp in the beginning. Ahhh yes that’s the song I meant - Already Home.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 16:45:06 GMT
i like it Yes the lyrics repeat a bit too kuch, but i cans see it being a nice little song for Victoria to sing. It is for the white cat isn't it??
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Post by amp09 on Nov 15, 2019 16:49:30 GMT
I started off hating it, the sudden pauses and it sounded very disjointed... but rather liked it by the end. It’s a grower..
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