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Post by crowblack on Jul 20, 2019 12:34:41 GMT
Les Mis had Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, Anne Hathaway etc all bona fire movie stars Yes, but this has cats. Lots and lots of cats.
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Post by horton on Jul 20, 2019 13:00:24 GMT
Wasn't Judi's last musical 'Nine'?...
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Post by learfan on Jul 20, 2019 19:26:18 GMT
Cats will easily outgun Les Mis at the box office. Broader demographic appeal, affordability (compared to a west end/broadway show for a family of four for example), no underlying narrative to bore the kids for three hours (and I love Les Mis!) - many reasons why Cats will score big on screen. Having seen the weirder than weird trailer, i really dont think it will!
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Post by crowblack on Jul 20, 2019 19:51:05 GMT
cartoonbrew.com has tweeted pics and links to concept artwork from earlier unmade animated film versions of Cats, if anyone's interested.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 20, 2019 19:53:13 GMT
I’ve had an email from CATS telling me to watch the trailer. Err... no thank you I’ve still not recovered. I assume LW theatres sold them my email address so thanks for that Andy.
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Post by ceebee on Jul 20, 2019 23:38:47 GMT
Cats will easily outgun Les Mis at the box office. Broader demographic appeal, affordability (compared to a west end/broadway show for a family of four for example), no underlying narrative to bore the kids for three hours (and I love Les Mis!) - many reasons why Cats will score big on screen. Having seen the weirder than weird trailer, i really dont think it will! I'd put my house on it. Very confident this film will fly.
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Post by Fleance on Jul 21, 2019 0:12:31 GMT
I just realized, in cleaning out my closet to avoid going out into our NYC heat wave, that I have the DVD of Cats, produced in 1998. It has Elaine Page and John Mills. What it does not have, is the whole Growltiger/Billy M'Caw episode, which is my favorite part of the show. I think that segment was omitted from the initial Broadway production as well. The Blue-ray DVD says "Ultimate Edition," but it hardly seems that.
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Post by poster J on Jul 21, 2019 0:15:06 GMT
Yes Taylor Swift is in Cats and she has a massive following in music but she is an unknown quantity when it comes to movies. She has 119 million Instagram followers - her pedigree in movies really has nothing whatsoever to do with how many tickets her name alone will shift.
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Post by basi1faw1ty on Jul 21, 2019 8:21:24 GMT
OK so I've never seen Cats, but that trailer. Good grief. There's some great nightmare fuel in there, let me tell you.
Side note: Oh Dame Judi, what have you let yourself in for? Was she blackmailed or...?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 8:28:31 GMT
I’ve had an email from CATS telling me to watch the trailer. Err... no thank you I’ve still not recovered. I assume LW theatres sold them my email address so thanks for that Andy. Covered in the Really Useful Group, so no sale persay. You may even have registered yourself with RUG previously a few years ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2019 8:36:18 GMT
Interesting perspective here on the 'saga' with some actual credible insight rather than opinion...
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 21, 2019 9:11:44 GMT
Why don't they just chuck in some clowns to exacerbate the nightmare siituion?
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Post by sparky5000 on Jul 21, 2019 9:17:03 GMT
I do wonder how many of the people who are breaking the internet with their Cats comments and memes have ever actually seen Cats the Musical! 😆 🤷🏻♀️ That said, this tweet from Lesli Margherita of her dog’s reaction to the trailer is my fave by far! 😂😂😂
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Post by ncbears on Jul 21, 2019 14:50:40 GMT
I just realized, in cleaning out my closet to avoid going out into our NYC heat wave, that I have the DVD of Cats, produced in 1998. It has Elaine Page and John Mills. What it does not have, is the whole Growltiger/Billy M'Caw episode, which is my favorite part of the show. I think that segment was omitted from the initial Broadway production as well. The Blue-ray DVD says "Ultimate Edition," but it hardly seems that. The "official" explanation for the absence of Growltiger was that John Mills was too old to perform it. That didn't make sense to me - because given that Growltiger is a memory Gus sings about, there could have been another actor for that portion. I've seen comments that it was a budgetary decision or a time decision. One benefit was that my daughter who watched the VHS(!) endlessly was surprised to see the additional sequence when we took her to see Cats on Broadway near the end of its initial run. (Dumb father promise to young child endlessly watching the VHS tape: "sure, we will take you to see Cats on Broadway" since, of course, Cats is forever. HA! Shortly thereafter, Cats announces closing, so, a promise is a promise. And though we lived in North Carolina, and though she was just five and a half years old, off we went. She was a perfect audience member and remembers it fondly to this day)
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Post by horton on Jul 21, 2019 15:58:31 GMT
I agree with that dog.
And Growltiger (including Billy McCaw) was always my favourite part of the show.
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Post by itsemily on Jul 21, 2019 16:28:39 GMT
And Growltiger (including Billy McCaw) was always my favourite part of the show. Me too! Love the DVD but always miss that part!
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Post by Rozzi Rainbow on Jul 21, 2019 19:58:50 GMT
I liked the trailer. Cats isn't my favourite show - I find it more of a concept piece than a musical, but I love the music and the dancing, both of which I feel came across well in the trailer. I think for anyone who's not seen the stage show (in general, not necessarily on this forum) it would seem very strange, but to me it is the stage show just outside on the street. I think it might struggle to appeal to non-theatre-goers, as the trailer doesn't really suggest a storyline - although, even having seen the stage show I'd struggle to explain the storyline! I'm looking forward to it.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 21, 2019 20:30:04 GMT
Movies lie about their budget to make themselves sound more impressive all the time, so any figure in the press should be taken with a pinch of salt. It’s doubtless a very expensive film to make, though. Do you know if they ever “tell the truth” about the budget or is it always an inside secret? I always go by Wikipedia or Mojo or the like but who knows? The reason we know movies lie about budget is because they have to submit proper accounts when applying for tax credits from the U.K. government, and some other governments with tax credit schemes. Interesting article about it here: stephenfollows.com/do-filmmakers-lie-about-their-budgets/Everyone will still go with the declared budget from the studio, though - it takes quite some time for those accounts to come to light. Plus the movie press industry is about entertainment, not investigative journalism, and ‘Hollywood accounting’ being nonsense is an open enough secret - everyone knows that the studios aren’t honest about this stuff.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jul 22, 2019 16:16:55 GMT
Why don't they just chuck in some clowns to exacerbate the nightmare siituion? Ooh, maybe ALW could write an extra original song for the show, "chuck in the clowns" or something like that? Write? Don't you mean plagerise?!
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Post by crowblack on Jul 24, 2019 8:38:27 GMT
Louis Wain biopic from the writer/director of Ch4's excellent Flowers just about to start filming with Cumberbatch and Claire Foy so maybe anthropomorphised cats will be next years' unicorns-and-rainbows (please god).
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Post by stuartmcd on Jul 27, 2019 21:44:52 GMT
Interesting video on the VFX in the movie
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Post by vabbian on Jul 27, 2019 22:43:09 GMT
I think the majority of criticism for the trailer comes from people who've never seen Cats
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Post by d'James on Jul 27, 2019 23:41:03 GMT
I think the majority of criticism for the trailer comes from people who've never seen Cats I don’t.
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Post by drowseychap on Jul 28, 2019 1:29:23 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it
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Post by showtoones on Jul 28, 2019 1:52:54 GMT
I think I need to see it for the camp factor...look we all could love it. Who know?!?
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Post by shady23 on Jul 28, 2019 5:10:12 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it Also saw it on the big screen screen and lots around me were saying they wanted to see it. Certainly didn't look as bad as I had expected from this thread. Dislaimer: it is by far my least favourite musical)
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Post by The Matthew on Jul 28, 2019 7:35:22 GMT
I expect the experience of watching the entire film will be very different from watching the trailer because the audience will be immersed in that world instead of watching second-long clips. Traditional painted-cel animation looks weird considered in isolation: the proportions are wrong, colours come in flat blocks, all movement comes in a narrow range of middling speeds, and anything that isn't the centre of attention turns into a statue, but you don't register the strangeness because the whole world is like that and nothing feels out of place.
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Post by musicalmarge on Jul 28, 2019 12:44:44 GMT
I think the majority of criticism for the trailer comes from people who've never seen Cats I don’t. I don’t either
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Post by fiyero on Jul 28, 2019 17:33:56 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it Also saw it on the big screen screen and lots around me were saying they wanted to see it. Certainly didn't look as bad as I had expected from this thread. Dislaimer: it is by far my least favourite musical) I agree. I loved seeing the trailer before The Lion King. I think they were ever going to win with this, use 'real' cats and that would be wrong like some of the critiscim The Lion King has got, filming of the stage version has already been done and normal humans would be wrong.
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Post by chernjam on Jul 28, 2019 18:12:08 GMT
Watched it on you tube and wasn’t keen but then saw trailer on the big screen at odeon .... and it all seemed to make sense really liked it Also saw it on the big screen screen and lots around me were saying they wanted to see it. Certainly didn't look as bad as I had expected from this thread. Dislaimer: it is by far my least favourite musical) This has been my hunch from the get-go. The fact that there was this "negative reaction" is not going to deter anyone from going to see it - if anything, it raised people's attention to the fact that this is coming out. Most people aren't on theatre boards parsing and critiquing every aspect of every thing (like we like to do) so they might have not even known Cats was being made into a film - saw the preview with the cast and thought "oh that's interesting". And the vast majority of people who went to see Cats on Broadway, on the West End or around the world for decades don't care that some theatre snobs think it's "the worst musical". It's far from my favorite ALW musical - I don't remember the last time I even listened to the recording, but will most definitely be there when it opens. And I'm betting, so will a lot of other people. Will it topple Star Wars? No. Will it make back it's money and then some? I'm sure that it will
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