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Post by DuchessConstance on Dec 21, 2016 0:39:16 GMT
ALW causing controversy again today by talking about how he discovered Rihanna but decided not to bring her back home with him, and compared her to a holiday impulse purchase. So maybe ALW should stop talking about race issues for a little bit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 0:47:08 GMT
ALW causing controversy again today by talking about how he discovered Rihanna but decided not to bring her back home with him, and compared her to a holiday impulse purchase. So maybe ALW should stop talking about race issues for a little bit. I don't see how that's racist? Just because she's black doesn't mean that him comparing her to a holiday impulse purchase makes it racist. It's a tad sexist though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 9:04:13 GMT
I do agree with @pointone, but I don't see why it can't be a bit of both, women of colour tending to experience sexism in greater quantity and in entirely different ways to white women.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 9:04:44 GMT
So, you did have access to the "live performance experience" through dance, and that meant you were used to being in an auditorium. Once you had that, you went to a theatre because it was cheaper than a cinema ticket. Fascinating. What I feel you are saying is that everyone needs some kind of gateway to experiencing any kind of live performance first (and my school was just as useless, I must add). One you have that, you next need to make it a far cheaper alternative to any other leisure interest. Snciole should probably be appointed an access Tsar or something... There's a great scheme at the Sherman Theatre (supported by the Paul Hamlyn foundation) for just this- they target a range of community groups that don't traditionally make up the theatre's audience (which in this case is traditionally even more white middle class than most) and help them come to the theatre for the first time- by both cheap tickets but also helping with transport, providing 'buddies' at the theatre or pre/post show events. The idea was that it's not just money that prevents people accessing the theatre but these barriers that might not be obvious to anyone else. It's been really successful and now people from Sherman 5 groups are making up a bigger part of the audience!
I think Snicole should help set up similar schemes around the country!
www.shermantheatre.co.uk/sherman5/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 9:06:35 GMT
I do agree with @pointone , but I don't see why it can't be a bit of both, women of colour tending to experience sexism in greater quantity and in entirely different ways to white women. Yes let's just agree ALW is being a bit of an arse but not an entirely racially motivated one. (weirdly I do think Rhianna might be quite good in some kind of musical though...which has nothing to do with race or gender just that her usual musical offerings aren't obviously musical theatre but I think she's kinda cool and has an interesting voice/style)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 9:07:41 GMT
Buddies in particular sounds like a great idea - we may laugh about it, but for a lot of people, it simply doesn't occur to them that theatre is something they can easily and comfortably do on their own. Even if you've never been there yourself (and I know I have - the day I realised going to the theatre alone was no big thing was a SERIOUS game changer), you must have heard of someone saying they wish they'd seen a particular show but couldn't find anyone to go with. Buddying up with someone instantly makes the whole thing seem friendlier and more accessible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 9:12:52 GMT
Buddies in particular sounds like a great idea - we may laugh about it, but for a lot of people, it simply doesn't occur to them that theatre is something they can easily and comfortably do on their own. Even if you've never been there yourself (and I know I have - the day I realised going to the theatre alone was no big thing was a SERIOUS game changer), you must have heard of someone saying they wish they'd seen a particular show but couldn't find anyone to go with. Buddying up with someone instantly makes the whole thing seem friendlier and more accessible. Yup! and it's not just say older and younger people who we think of as the obvious ones, theatres are really intimidating spaces to people not used to them and they worry about not knowing the right procedures etc as well as the just 'Argh I'm on my own' element.
Sherman 5 does it two ways I think- by bringing community groups in together so their existing friends are there with them OR having an assigned 'Buddy' volunteer who meets at a designated/marked point (that anyone can approach) and have a friend to chat to and tell them where to go and when.
I know that as a kid that theatre particularly 'wasn't for people like us' because it's 'Proper arty' and if I'd had that offer as a teenager or even my early 20s when I was already going to the theatre alone, it would have made a world of difference.
Side note: going to the theatre alone is now THE BEST THING
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Post by Snciole on Dec 21, 2016 11:05:56 GMT
So, you did have access to the "live performance experience" through dance, and that meant you were used to being in an auditorium. Once you had that, you went to a theatre because it was cheaper than a cinema ticket. Fascinating. What I feel you are saying is that everyone needs some kind of gateway to experiencing any kind of live performance first (and my school was just as useless, I must add). One you have that, you next need to make it a far cheaper alternative to any other leisure interest. Snciole should probably be appointed an access Tsar or something... There's a great scheme at the Sherman Theatre (supported by the Paul Hamlyn foundation) for just this- they target a range of community groups that don't traditionally make up the theatre's audience (which in this case is traditionally even more white middle class than most) and help them come to the theatre for the first time- by both cheap tickets but also helping with transport, providing 'buddies' at the theatre or pre/post show events. The idea was that it's not just money that prevents people accessing the theatre but these barriers that might not be obvious to anyone else. It's been really successful and now people from Sherman 5 groups are making up a bigger part of the audience!
I think Snicole should help set up similar schemes around the country!
www.shermantheatre.co.uk/sherman5/
Ha! I should I think it is fair to say regional theatre rarely sells out and I would much rather see that space used for school groups than empty.
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