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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 6, 2023 0:22:08 GMT
Episode 3 was slightly stronger
But I think they got it wrong in terms of the elimination
There were weaker performers left in
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Post by erik24601 on Nov 6, 2023 2:26:04 GMT
I want Callum to have a chance to shine…. Give him a bloomin’ MT song to sing and perform rather than pop songs where he has to perform it like a Pop Music Video!
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Post by justfran on Nov 6, 2023 13:11:24 GMT
I agree that the Skys were stronger this week than in the first episode. The judges annoyed me a couple of times though - if Marcellus has a throat infection and is on medication,, that’s hardly his choice so it’s not “an excuse” and anyone can be unwell. I agree that Callum’s feedback was harsh - he was given a pop song and sang it in that style.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 6, 2023 14:02:35 GMT
Given how little solo singing Sky has in the show, vocals are not massive priority for the role.
It is noticeable that there is a lack of body diversity in the boys category. Which gives a clue as to what they think is important
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Post by marob on Nov 6, 2023 16:28:04 GMT
They were rather harsh on the guy with the infection, especially with the obsessive focus on 8 shows a week. It’s not like it’s uncommon for West End performers to not do all 8 shows. And none of us would know who Marisha Wallace is were it not for Amber Riley’s sickness during Dreamgirls. Not sure how much longer I’ll stick with this. 3 weeks in and I’m still not particularly invested in it. Thought the first one to sing was the best, the one who did Luck Be a Lady, but his name escapes me. oxfordsimon there was that bit where one of the judges asked what they’re looking for, and the reply was “abs.” They were joking, but it’s kinda true.
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 6, 2023 19:23:34 GMT
Speaking of diversity, does Mamma Mia cast completely colour blind? Or are the dads generally all the same?
I'm just thinking it might be difficult to suspend belief on who might be her dad!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 6, 2023 22:11:49 GMT
Speaking of diversity, does Mamma Mia cast completely colour blind? Or are the dads generally all the same? I'm just thinking it might be difficult to suspend belief on who might be her dad! That thought had crossed my mind - given how central paternity is to the piece.
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Post by alece10 on Nov 12, 2023 18:33:53 GMT
Lay all your love on me is my favourite ABBA song of all time and they have all just murdered it. Based on those performances I wouldn't pay to see any of them on stage.
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Post by danb on Nov 12, 2023 20:28:31 GMT
This is increasingly a big hot woke mess. I would love to see the normal casting breakdown for Sophie & Sky. Surely having a hot beach body, being able to sing and being even remotely engaged by musical theatre are prerequisites. Loved Stevie, have no feelings for any of the Sky’s. They barely register in the show and I can see no reason to make out differently. Just give it to Stevie and let us off the rest.
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Post by theatreloverlondon on Nov 16, 2023 13:51:21 GMT
This is increasingly a big hot woke mess. I would love to see the normal casting breakdown for Sophie & Sky. Surely having a hot beach body, being able to sing and being even remotely engaged by musical theatre are prerequisites. Loved Stevie, have no feelings for any of the Sky’s. They barely register in the show and I can see no reason to make out differently. Just give it to Stevie and let us off the rest. Stevie is 100% my favourite too.
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Post by shorn on Nov 17, 2023 23:07:03 GMT
This is increasingly a big hot woke mess. I would love to see the normal casting breakdown for Sophie & Sky. Surely having a hot beach body, being able to sing and being even remotely engaged by musical theatre are prerequisites. Loved Stevie, have no feelings for any of the Sky’s. They barely register in the show and I can see no reason to make out differently. Just give it to Stevie and let us off the rest. I don't know, I don't think I've ever seen a really hot Sky tbh. They've all been lean/slim but not what I'd call super hot/ripped. Eddie and Pepper seem to be more often those. The guys on this I'd say all have the Sky look. The Sophies are a bit more diverse admittedly, but most could be a Sophie looks wise.
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Post by criticalprole on Nov 19, 2023 21:52:03 GMT
This is increasingly a big hot woke mess. I would love to see the normal casting breakdown for Sophie & Sky. Surely having a hot beach body, being able to sing and being even remotely engaged by musical theatre are prerequisites. Loved Stevie, have no feelings for any of the Sky’s. They barely register in the show and I can see no reason to make out differently. Just give it to Stevie and let us off the rest. I'm not sure what 'big woke mess' means in this context? (Actually I have no idea what Woke means anymore, to be honest.) Do you mean that not all the Sophie's look like Amanda Seyfried and some of Sky's don't look like Dominic Cooper? I mean they've clearly gone for a nice mix of people so the general public can relate and root for different people. That's pretty standard marketing, isn't it? And clearly most of the people on this show aren't aiming to get a job as either but are looking to garnish their CV and get cast in other big roles. I mean I'd agree with the hot bit, they are all fun to look at.
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Post by danb on Nov 19, 2023 22:09:14 GMT
I mean that they’ve deliberately chosen a spectrum of buzz words rather than the actual casting brief. I don’t have a problem with it, I just think it’s disingenuous and that some of the people that have made it onto the programme would not ordinarily have gotten within 500 metres of the audition room. But similarly I also realise that the thought police would’ve been straight in there if all of the auditionees were white, thin & straight. Damned if they do etc.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 19, 2023 22:11:08 GMT
Not sure that they were honest in their reason for eliminating Leah this week. She had a better vocal than most and had more demanding choreo than many.
She was not the weakest.
As for the boys, it was probably the right call. Tobias is still the strongest option.
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Post by criticalprole on Nov 19, 2023 22:23:07 GMT
I mean that they’ve deliberately chosen a spectrum of buzz words rather than the actual casting brief. I don’t have a problem with it, I just think it’s disingenuous and that some of the people that have made it onto the programme would not ordinarily have gotten within 500 metres of the audition room. But similarly I also realise that the thought police would’ve been straight in there if all of the auditionees were white, thin & straight. Damned if they do etc. It's more that the advertisers would complain the show isn't appealing to the demographic they want to sell stuff to, rather than some nebulous Orwellian force. And that's true in general, the broader you cast they more people you can reel in. Looking at the cast that's currently on stage (google: mamma-mia london-cast ), the people on the show look pretty much aligned with the people in the current production. All that said, Leah was robbed. But she was never getting to end of the series.
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Post by marob on Nov 20, 2023 0:38:34 GMT
Three episodes to go and still a bit of dead wood to clear out.
But the first one I’d get rid of is Jessie Ware. Super critical of everything at the start of every episode, continually drawing focus by singing/bobbing along and commenting during the performances, the acts like it’s a really tough decision and gets all misty eyed during the elimination. Just annoying.
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Post by karloscar on Nov 20, 2023 9:03:08 GMT
Three episodes to go and still a bit of dead wood to clear out. But the first one I’d get rid of is Jessie Ware. Super critical of everything at the start of every episode, continually drawing focus by singing/bobbing along and commenting during the performances, the acts like it’s a really tough decision and gets all misty eyed during the elimination. Just annoying. She can only draw focus because the producers put her on screen. Not like it's live or anything.
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Post by danb on Nov 20, 2023 13:28:31 GMT
Three episodes to go and still a bit of dead wood to clear out. But the first one I’d get rid of is Jessie Ware. Super critical of everything at the start of every episode, continually drawing focus by singing/bobbing along and commenting during the performances, the acts like it’s a really tough decision and gets all misty eyed during the elimination. Just annoying. What I’d really love to see/hear is the commentary from the other table, with Judy, Anthony etc telling it like it is. We need something on the red button 🤣
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Post by colelarson on Nov 20, 2023 14:14:57 GMT
What I don't like with this show is we haven't had a chance to get to know the people, with the other "finding a..." style shows on the BBC you got to see the auditions and rooted for your favorites, with this show I feel no connection with any of them apart from Desdemona as I saw her with Maria Friedman so know a bit of her story and passion for theatre.
Random fact as I was walking to the station last week (after seeing Tina) I saw Owen coming out of a sweet shop near the Vaudeville Theatre, he then went into the theatre quickly as I was going to ask him if he had any goss!
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Post by justfran on Nov 20, 2023 20:49:22 GMT
I find it quite annoying and rude when the judges talk as they are performing. Mazz Murray is a guest on next week's episode, I noticed she's on the credits as creative consultant (I think that was the job title). I agree with others that Tobias seems the front runner for Sky. Assuming that Desmonda is in the final, I'm not sure who the final couple will be? Stevie and Owen perhaps?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Nov 20, 2023 21:30:28 GMT
Desmonda can sing but her acting and stage presence isn't yet registering as interesting.
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Post by justfran on Nov 20, 2023 22:39:39 GMT
She’s only signed up for the Aladdin tour in Edinburgh so far, I assumed this meant that she’s got to the final and wants to see what happens rather than commit to the full tour.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 21, 2023 16:38:31 GMT
Considering the roles she's had so far, I am shocked how bad Desmondas acting is.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Nov 21, 2023 16:40:51 GMT
Of the Sky's my favourite is Craig, but not sure he will end up winning
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Post by FairyGodmother on Nov 24, 2023 1:16:28 GMT
I don't know why they put Marcellus through to this bit if I'm being honest. He seems nice, and I know that it's playing age that's important, but I'm not convinced that a paired casting of an Sophie in her early twenties and a 36 year old is ideal.
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Post by alece10 on Nov 26, 2023 18:49:16 GMT
One of my pet hates in the theatre is people applauding during a song and before the end of the song. Tonight I've just seen the judges doing it whilst Mazz Murray was singing. Really annoyed me.
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Post by danb on Nov 26, 2023 18:58:26 GMT
It’s just another example of people making it about themself rather than appreciating those that they’re watching.
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Post by theatreloverlondon on Nov 26, 2023 19:35:08 GMT
I truly believe Esme has only made it this far because she looks the part. I just find her a bit stiff. Stephanie and Stevie have been the strongest to me since day. But I totally agree with the judges that Stephanie comes across too ‘trained’. She is the perfect MT graduate but has no individuality or personality when she performs. But would deserves be an ensemble member or swing who is constantly booked. Stevie remains my winner.
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Post by justfran on Nov 26, 2023 19:52:41 GMT
I was quite surprised by Desmonda leaving tonight. I wonder if she has something else lined up for after Aladdin in Edinburgh.
I think the strongest two performers who should win now are Stevie and Tobias.
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Post by danb on Nov 26, 2023 20:16:07 GMT
I think she just has the rest of the Aladdin tour lined up. She just couldn’t announce it because it would announce that she didn’t win.
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