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Post by londonpostie on Jul 21, 2023 6:57:23 GMT
"Little service" Tues to Thursday?
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Post by cavocado on Jul 21, 2023 8:01:51 GMT
"Little service" Tues to Thursday? I don't know if the TFL website has changed overnight but it now says 'no tube service expected' on Wed and Fri, 'little or no tube service' on Tues and Thurs.
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Post by londonpostie on Jul 21, 2023 8:18:15 GMT
I guess it has or will change. TfL never really knows until the day when they see who turns up, though they assume - based on past strike days - a certain amount.
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Post by londonmzfitz on Jul 21, 2023 10:30:06 GMT
Ahhh! This crap again! The three days I'm in London next week, bloody tube strike each day and I'm booked out in a Travelodge at Wembley to save a bit of cash so I'll have to rely on buses. I'm screwed, totally screwed! If it's Travelodge Wembley Central the Overland trains will be running (although probably mad busy) - Euston to Wembley Central, Travelodge literally above the Station (which you probably know). Other routes - Thameslink (Farringdon etc) to Hendon Overground, cross the road and a number 83 bus to Wembley High Road. Chiltern Rail from Marylebone to Wembley Stadium and a 15-20 minute walk (or that 83 bus again, don't cross the road). Make sure it stops at Wembley Stadium though! I was booked for next Friday night after another Groundhog Day at the Wembley Park Premier Inn, but I've changed it to Travelodge Waterloo.
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Post by n1david on Jul 21, 2023 10:52:47 GMT
Relax, everyone!
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Post by Dave B on Jul 21, 2023 10:55:07 GMT
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Post by cavocado on Jul 21, 2023 11:06:52 GMT
Good news for now, but maybe BurlyBeaR it would be worth taking the dates off this thread title as I'm sure this topic will come up again.
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Post by maggiem on Jul 21, 2023 11:16:36 GMT
Ahhh! This crap again! The three days I'm in London next week, bloody tube strike each day and I'm booked out in a Travelodge at Wembley to save a bit of cash so I'll have to rely on buses. I'm screwed, totally screwed! Same here (possibly). Managed to dodge the train strikes by travelling on Tuesday and Friday, then got shafted by the bloody Tube strikes! However, I'm not going to admit defeat! I have been having a good look on TFL's website for buses to get me from Euston to Paddington (my digs) and then to the places I want to go (Leicester Square area mainly, but Tower Bridge for the theatre will be a bit tricky). Tuesday and Thursday I will also be travelling at early evening rush hour, but the rest of the time I may be okay. It would help a bit if we knew which lines are shut on which days, as I read this was a "rolling" programme of shutdowns. I'm just not sure if the Elizabeth Line will be of any use as I would need it to/from stations that are on the underground network. EDITED- didn't read all of the posts above! I've also seen the confirmation of the strikes being called off on the BBC news website now.
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Post by lynette on Jul 21, 2023 12:55:27 GMT
Strikes off
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Post by mhumphries on Jan 3, 2024 22:53:22 GMT
Ahhh! This crap again! The three days I'm in London next week, bloody tube strike each day and I'm booked out in a Travelodge at Wembley to save a bit of cash so I'll have to rely on buses. I'm screwed, totally screwed! For the love of Mormon not again! What is it with me and picking the week to a trip to London and there ends up being a tube strike for the third time. Wembley booked again and this time in the middle of 5 f***ing days of it! Train to Euston and walking distant theatres it is then.
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Post by Mark on Jan 3, 2024 23:22:49 GMT
Hope they get called off again otherwise it’s gonna be a pretty miserable week for London travel.
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Post by jek on Jan 4, 2024 11:16:45 GMT
Elizabeth Line seems to be running - except for after 10.30 pm on the Wednesday, when it will not call at Bond Street, Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Liverpool Street or Whitechapel.
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Post by alece10 on Jan 7, 2024 17:39:42 GMT
Tube strike suspended. Thank goodness. Was not looking forward to trying to get to work this week.
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Post by partytentdown on Jan 7, 2024 17:47:33 GMT
Only after hundreds of people have cancelled their tickets for the week, once again the theatre industry gets screwed over.
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Post by showgirl on Jan 7, 2024 18:38:48 GMT
Yup, I was one of those and too late now to re-book as run ends in a week and I had a great seat as I'd booked months ago.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 7, 2024 19:22:43 GMT
As someone who lives outside London, I must say that it hacks me off that the tube strikes keep on getting called off at the last minute while all the train strikes in the last 18 months have gone ahead. Why are the unions prepared to cancel their tube strikes but never their train ones? It feels like London's transport is considered more important than that for the rest of the country.
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Post by aspieandy on Jan 7, 2024 19:28:15 GMT
The mayor has intervened directly today and more money made available - offer has been 5% (i.e. less than inflation over the period). He could have done this a week, two weeks, ago. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67907355
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Post by sph on Jan 7, 2024 19:29:47 GMT
The tube strikes are just an ongoing game of cat and mouse that will last until the end of time. There's no point in trying to make rhyme or reason of them. This week they'll strike over pay, next week they'll strike because there aren't enough teabags in the break room. It is what it is when you live in London.
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Post by n1david on Jan 7, 2024 20:11:34 GMT
As someone who lives outside London, I must say that it hacks me off that the tube strikes keep on getting called off at the last minute while all the train strikes in the last 18 months have gone ahead. Why are the unions prepared to cancel their tube strikes but never their train ones? It feels like London's transport is considered more important than that for the rest of the country. The Mayor wants the strikes to be called off so negotiates. The Government wants strikes on the railways because (a) they don't tend to travel by train anyway so it doesn't really affect them and (b) they want people to be inconvenienced so that they can point to the Labour Party and say in the election campaign that this party is a friend of the unions and so in some way responsible for the strikes. The difference is approach isn't down to the unions; it's down to the bodies negotiating with them and their motivations.
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Post by lynette on Jan 10, 2024 18:00:29 GMT
As someone who lives outside London, I must say that it hacks me off that the tube strikes keep on getting called off at the last minute while all the train strikes in the last 18 months have gone ahead. Why are the unions prepared to cancel their tube strikes but never their train ones? It feels like London's transport is considered more important than that for the rest of the country. The Mayor wants the strikes to be called off so negotiates. The Government wants strikes on the railways because (a) they don't tend to travel by train anyway so it doesn't really affect them and (b) they want people to be inconvenienced so that they can point to the Labour Party and say in the election campaign that this party is a friend of the unions and so in some way responsible for the strikes. The difference is approach isn't down to the unions; it's down to the bodies negotiating with them and their motivations. Honestly I wish your theory was true as it would make me think there were was some intelligence, albeit malignant , in the Gov.
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Post by Jan on Jan 10, 2024 18:53:30 GMT
As someone who lives outside London, I must say that it hacks me off that the tube strikes keep on getting called off at the last minute while all the train strikes in the last 18 months have gone ahead. Why are the unions prepared to cancel their tube strikes but never their train ones? It feels like London's transport is considered more important than that for the rest of the country. The Mayor wants the strikes to be called off so negotiates. The Government wants strikes on the railways because (a) they don't tend to travel by train anyway so it doesn't really affect them and (b) they want people to be inconvenienced so that they can point to the Labour Party and say in the election campaign that this party is a friend of the unions and so in some way responsible for the strikes. The difference is approach isn't down to the unions; it's down to the bodies negotiating with them and their motivations. Khan has found £30m extra money to pay off the RMT with an 11% pay rise having previously told ASLEF that the 5% pay rise they agreed to only a few months agio was the maximum they could have as there was no more money. So guess what ASLEF will do now ? Genius negotiator.
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Post by aspieandy on Jan 10, 2024 19:46:18 GMT
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Post by Jan on Jan 10, 2024 20:47:34 GMT
On average people only spend about 12% of their total income on food (ONS figures) so highlighting that is not particularly relevant - overall inflation is more relevant in the context of pay negotiations.
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jan 10, 2024 21:57:38 GMT
On average people only spend about 12% of their total income on food (ONS figures) so highlighting that is not particularly relevant - overall inflation is more relevant in the context of pay negotiations. I've always known I eat too much but I'm definitely holding up the average
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Post by aspieandy on Jan 11, 2024 6:43:31 GMT
On average people only spend about 12% of their total income on food (ONS figures) so highlighting that is not particularly relevant - overall inflation is more relevant in the context of pay negotiations. As someone memorably said 'your GDP is not my GDP'. Meaning: it's middle-class numbers for middle class readers.
Just like when skilled tube drivers wages are quoted as indicative of all TFL staff.
Or when 12% of "total income" doesn't mean much when you rely on free school meals and/or Universal Credit or Income Support to put any meals on the family table. And that additional support is needed because the government is content with taxpayers underpinning low wage employers.
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Post by happysooz2 on Jan 12, 2024 8:19:05 GMT
The tube strikes are just an ongoing game of cat and mouse that will last until the end of time. There's no point in trying to make rhyme or reason of them. This week they'll strike over pay, next week they'll strike because there aren't enough teabags in the break room. It is what it is when you live in London. Exactly. The inevitability of Tube strikes always remind me of the quote ‘Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.’
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Post by zahidf on Jan 15, 2024 13:45:50 GMT
More train strikes
Drivers will strike at Southeastern, Southern/Gatwick Express, Great Northern, Thameslink and South Western Railway on Tuesday 30 January; at Northern Trains and TransPennine Express on Wednesday 31 January; at Greater Anglia, C2C and LNER on Friday 2 February; at West Midlands Trains, Avanti West Coast and East Midlands Railway on Saturday 3 February; and at Great Western, CrossCountry and Chiltern on Monday 5 February.
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Post by theatreian on Jan 15, 2024 16:03:16 GMT
It feels like London's transport is considered more important than that for the rest of the country. Unfortunately it is the case that most things in London are considered more important than equivalent things happening elsewhere. It's probably always been the case.
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Post by sph on Jan 15, 2024 17:25:20 GMT
London has a population that represents just over 13% of the UK though, and has far less people who drive or have a car and who rely almost entirely on public transport, especially for work.
And all the shops and companies and organisations etc that smaller towns and cities rely on? They probably have their headquarters in London. If London stops, it affects the rest of the country.
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