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Post by og on Jan 24, 2022 15:01:24 GMT
Doing a bit more reading, for those adamant the future of the BBC is to remain terrestrial, a quote from Tim Davie's statement regarding the licence fee freeze "transitioning the organisation to a digital future and delivering distinctive and impartial content."
Whilst I was convinced a reduction of regional output would be seen, the 6-year plan includes a plan to "create a compelling News and local proposition beyond linear".
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Post by mkb on Jan 24, 2022 15:35:23 GMT
I look forward to "impartial content" -- outside of Newsnight that would make a pleasant change -- but with Tory-boy Davie at the helm, I won't hold my breath.
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Post by og on Jan 24, 2022 16:17:39 GMT
I look forward to "impartial content" -- outside of Newsnight that would make a pleasant change -- but with Tory-boy Davie at the helm, I won't hold my breath. People get very hung up on the 'impartial' aspect in finite and specific detail. Overall I think it balances out, some programmes may have certain leanings but others provide a fair counterweight. For all the people that say Question Time (for example) is right wing, other will argue a lot of the humour of Mock the Week tends to be fairly left leaning. It's about providing balance and nuance rather than 'here's 24/365 of expressionless entertainment'.
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Post by Dawnstar on Jan 24, 2022 21:29:19 GMT
Lots of right-wing people complain the BBC is too left-wing and lots of left-wing people complain the BBC is too right-wing: I'd say that probably means the BBC have got the balance about correct!
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Post by mkb on Jan 25, 2022 6:03:34 GMT
Lots of right-wing people complain the BBC is too left-wing and lots of left-wing people complain the BBC is too right-wing: I'd say that probably means the BBC have got the balance about correct! That argument is regularly trotted out and is nonsense, whether it is applied to the BBC or any other organisation. You cannot infer that complaints from both sides means that both are equally valid. Many people who complain are unable to see past their own confirmation bias. You only have to look at issues that are demonstrably true -- the earth not being flat, Covid being real, climate change -- and you will always find people in denial. That doesn't mean the truth is somewhere in the middle. There is also the Trumpian, right-wing playbook in operation. Hear a news article that is biased to the right? Then complain loudly that it is too left-wing, and some will think it must therefore be balanced. Rees-Mogg is the master of this tactic. As an individual, it is very difficult to objectively deconstruct a news bulletin to measure bias. What you do get a sense of though, very clearly, is how it changes over time. Thirty years ago, I was sensing pro-establishment bias much of the time and 50/50 left/right bias. But now it feels like 10/90 on the latter. I was speaking to some people recently who thought the BBC too left-wing. It turns out that they didn't think it was pro-Labour politically. What they meant was that it was too woke, pro-diversity, anti-white, anti-male, etc.
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Post by talkingheads on Jan 25, 2022 9:55:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 16:00:08 GMT
Nice to see Anna Home still active and involved. She was a driving force behind masy of the BBC's greatest children's programmes for many years. The right sort of grounding is so important for children as regards the programmes they watch. For people of each generation certain kids TV presenters were always amongst their earliest heroes.
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Post by og on May 30, 2022 8:51:12 GMT
BBC launching their plan into action moving forward with a view of a digital-first vision, including: Significant investment in iPlayer & Sounds. Domestic & World News merge, as global news provision is revised, leaving the BBC News channel to cater for all, including a tie in Sport. A number of linear (terrestrial broadcast) services are being reviewed with the look to move to online delivery after 3 years (including BBC Four & CBBC) Expansion of boxset & archive provision online (this should get a cheer from a few here, who have professed their need for this) Review of the entire Classic sector with a look to bring in 3rd party investment in performing groups.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 13:18:41 GMT
I'm not in favour of the licensing fee as I've said before and if one of the two major parties ever put this in a manifesto I think it can be a vote winner. But putting CBBC online could stop some children being able to watch it if they didn't have devices. I think the BBC should look at what it is the British Broadcasting Corporation and the money should be concentrated on what content they provide to the UK and not worldwide. Have a strong BBC 1 amd 2 with the core Radio stations both national and regional. Why not share CBBC/Cbeebies channels with BBC 3 or 4. One finishes at 7pm and the others start then ?
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Post by TallPaul on May 30, 2022 13:22:00 GMT
Why not share CBBC/Cbeebies channels with BBC 3 or 4. That's exactly what happens!
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Post by n1david on May 30, 2022 13:35:25 GMT
and the money should be concentrated on what content they provide to the UK and not worldwide. The global output is managed by BBC Studios which is a commercial organisation and not funded by the licence fee.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 13:57:43 GMT
Why not share CBBC/Cbeebies channels with BBC 3 or 4. That's exactly what happens! They are on different channels but if they are on same frequencies then that makes sense. I did think CBBC went on beyond 7pm too.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 13:59:47 GMT
and the money should be concentrated on what content they provide to the UK and not worldwide. The global output is managed by BBC Studios which is a commercial organisation and not funded by the licence fee. I was thinking about BBC World News. I want BBC to provide core content to it's key demographic like older people who rely on these channels.
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Post by n1david on May 30, 2022 14:08:09 GMT
The global output is managed by BBC Studios which is a commercial organisation and not funded by the licence fee. I was thinking about BBC World News. I want BBC to provide core content to it's key demographic like older people who rely on these channels. "BBC World News is owned and operated by BBC Global News Ltd, part of the BBC's commercial group of companies, and is funded by subscription and advertising revenues, not by the United Kingdom television licence." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_World_News
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Post by og on May 30, 2022 14:25:36 GMT
I'm not in favour of the licensing fee as I've said before and if one of the two major parties ever put this in a manifesto I think it can be a vote winner. But putting CBBC online could stop some children being able to watch it if they didn't have devices. I think the BBC should look at what it is the British Broadcasting Corporation and the money should be concentrated on what content they provide to the UK and not worldwide. Have a strong BBC 1 amd 2 with the core Radio stations both national and regional. Why not share CBBC/Cbeebies channels with BBC 3 or 4. One finishes at 7pm and the others start then ? Did you read my post?
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Post by n1david on May 30, 2022 14:39:34 GMT
Although it will be branded as one channel, there will be opt-outs for the UK. Considering that the BBC News channel in the UK currently simulcasts BBC World between 10 & 11am, and most of the evening and overnight from 7pm onwards (and for even longer at weekends), I'm not sure how much will actually change beyond the branding, given that things like PMQs will still be shown on the News channel in the UK but not overseas. The channel will continue to show advertising outside the UK while those breaks will be used to cover UK-specific stories in the way in works at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2022 17:12:59 GMT
If we are cynical do we need main channel news if BBC has a news channel. Whenever I want news now if I'm not looking online go to BBC News Channel which is effectively 24 hour rolling news. Or if the main channel news bulletins suffice why have news channel. Oh it's because the politicians like it as they want us to listen to them when it suits us.
The BBC political team could have their own comedy show as they have Eric Morecambe now as political editor instead of Kuenssberg and her scarily pulled mouth plus it is good to see Stanley Baxter looking so useful under the name Nick Eardley.
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Post by lynette on May 30, 2022 18:30:10 GMT
I saw a comment somewhere that is it annoying to see programmes which the BBC made now only available on a subscription platform, like prime. It is.
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Post by crowblack on May 30, 2022 19:22:16 GMT
If we are cynical do we need main channel news if BBC has a news channel. Whenever I want news now if I'm not looking online go to BBC News Channel which is effectively 24 hour rolling news. Or if the main channel news bulletins suffice why have news channel. Oh it's because the politicians like it as they want us to listen to them when it suits us. The BBC political team could have their own comedy show as they have Eric Morecambe now as political editor instead of Kuenssberg and her scarily pulled mouth plus it is good to see Stanley Baxter looking so useful under the name Nick Eardley. I think they should make BBC2 back into what it was in the 1980s, very strong on arts and sciences, and shift Newsnight over to the news channel so it's no longer snagging up what used to be the arthouse/cult/classic world cinema slot.
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Post by Jon on May 30, 2022 19:26:48 GMT
If we are cynical do we need main channel news if BBC has a news channel. Whenever I want news now if I'm not looking online go to BBC News Channel which is effectively 24 hour rolling news. Or if the main channel news bulletins suffice why have news channel. Oh it's because the politicians like it as they want us to listen to them when it suits us. The BBC political team could have their own comedy show as they have Eric Morecambe now as political editor instead of Kuenssberg and her scarily pulled mouth plus it is good to see Stanley Baxter looking so useful under the name Nick Eardley. I think they should make BBC2 back into what it was in the 1980s, very strong on arts and sciences, and shift Newsnight over to the news channel so it's no longer snagging up what used to be the arthouse/cult/classic world cinema slot. I suspect BBC Two would die a very slow death if it focused solely on arts and sciences.
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Post by crowblack on May 30, 2022 22:41:00 GMT
I think they should make BBC2 back into what it was in the 1980s, very strong on arts and sciences, and shift Newsnight over to the news channel so it's no longer snagging up what used to be the arthouse/cult/classic world cinema slot. I suspect BBC Two would die a very slow death if it focused solely on arts and sciences. I said strongly, not solely: it used to be amazing, really strong, intense arts, culture, rock and indie, history, science programmes and slots like Moviedrome. If BBC4 is to be axed, hopefully those resources can be channeled to BBC2. It used to have a USP and right now it doesn't.
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Post by marob on Jul 14, 2022 8:04:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2022 18:57:59 GMT
Sooner we get rid of this woke hypocritical corporation the better.
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Post by jojo on Jul 14, 2022 19:16:58 GMT
Sooner we get rid of this woke hypocritical corporation the better. Serious or satire?
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Post by Jan on Jul 14, 2022 19:36:13 GMT
Of course he isn’t, the BBC pay his wages. Quite an alarming unhinged rant against Tory voters there: “You are voting for murderers, bastards, abusers and liars." Lapped up by his devoted followers. If anyone on the right gave a speech like that like that he’d call them fascists.
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