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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 21:37:54 GMT
@posterj So by your reasoning, anyone who speaks or understands Spanish isn't going to see the film that Spielberg and Kushner intended?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2021 7:58:44 GMT
@posterj So by your reasoning, anyone who speaks or understands Spanish isn't going to see the film that Spielberg and Kushner intended? Obviously not, some people will understand it just as the Sharks as characters do. That is the language barrier point. I'm just telling you what Spielberg himself has said in interviews - the lack of subtitles is a deliberate artistic choice made by him and Tony Kushner. You said right at the start you wanted to see the film as Kushner intended, well there you go. If you dont like it that's your prerogative, but it is exactly what you were asking for. |
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Post by karloscar on Dec 2, 2021 12:18:13 GMT
@posterj So by your reasoning, anyone who speaks or understands Spanish isn't going to see the film that Spielberg and Kushner intended? Obviously not, some people will understand it just as the Sharks as characters do. That is the language barrier point. I'm just telling you what Spielberg himself has said in interviews - the lack of subtitles is a deliberate artistic choice made by him and Tony Kushner. You said right at the start you wanted to see the film as Kushner intended, well there you go. If you dont like it that's your prerogative, but it is exactly what you were asking for. One solution would be to put off seeing the film for six months and take an intensive Spanish course. Then they'd have nothing to moan about. Sorted! |
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Post by danb on Dec 2, 2021 12:27:44 GMT
If Maria asks Tony for four beers and a full english I’ll know exactly what she said.
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Post by n1david on Dec 2, 2021 14:21:01 GMT
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Post by og on Dec 2, 2021 15:30:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2021 9:54:42 GMT
Pretty much universal raves about the performances (Elgort aside). Any criticism seems to be mainly about the script's pacing or from people who don't understand the point of remaking WSS.
Rachel Zegler has been awarded Best Actress by the National Board of Review, and Ariana DeBose, Spielberg and the film itself all nominated for Hollywood Critics Association awards.
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Post by stuartmcd on Dec 3, 2021 18:30:43 GMT
The movie soundtrack is stunning! Looking forward to seeing it next week!
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Post by Jon on Dec 3, 2021 18:44:18 GMT
The movie soundtrack is stunning! Looking forward to seeing it next week! I've only listened to America and Tonight but it's fantastic so far. |
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Post by tom on Dec 3, 2021 22:44:41 GMT
Sounds very good but it seems that it’s following the old film rather than the stage production which is annoying. I much prefer the order and score from the production to the old film.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2021 9:20:31 GMT
Sounds very good but it seems that it’s following the old film rather than the stage production which is annoying. I much prefer the order and score from the production to the old film. It isn't following the old film, most of the songs have been moved... |
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Post by scarpia on Dec 4, 2021 9:27:04 GMT
I haven't seen this yet and don't plan to until a couple of weeks' time when there will be fewer audience members in the cinema to watch it (how I'm approaching all films at the moment), but something I haven't seen mentioned is the disappointing lowering of Tony's keys in this. Could Ansel just not sing as written?
Still very much looking forward to it, though.
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Post by fiyero on Dec 4, 2021 9:43:40 GMT
I haven't seen this yet and don't plan to until a couple of weeks' time when there will be fewer audience members in the cinema to watch it (how I'm approaching all films at the moment), but something I haven't seen mentioned is the disappointing lowering of Tony's keys in this. Could Ansel just not sing as written? Still very much looking forward to it, though. Might not need to wait if your cinemas are like mine. 3 at Rons Gone Wrong on Thursday evening and I was the only one at Encanto yesterday. Different cinemas but both about 150 person screens! |
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Post by alece10 on Dec 4, 2021 11:06:05 GMT
I've just had a look at my local Vue which is a massive multi screen complex and they don't even have it listed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2021 11:47:06 GMT
I've just had a look at my local Vue which is a massive multi screen complex and they don't even have it listed. Are you talking about Westfield Stratford? It is listed there for all of the week from 10 December, you just need to click on "Coming Soon" as it isn't out yet. |
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Post by alece10 on Dec 4, 2021 12:04:17 GMT
I've just had a look at my local Vue which is a massive multi screen complex and they don't even have it listed. Are you talking about Westfield Stratford? It is listed there for all of the week from 10 December, you just need to click on "Coming Soon" as it isn't out yet. Ah thanks. I'll have a look now. |
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Post by tom on Dec 4, 2021 16:27:35 GMT
Sounds very good but it seems that it’s following the old film rather than the stage production which is annoying. I much prefer the order and score from the production to the old film. It isn't following the old film, most of the songs have been moved... I meant, for example, America being a song between the men and women . Wonder if the somewhere sequence will be like the show as it’s unclear from the recording. |
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Post by undeuxtrois on Dec 4, 2021 19:34:43 GMT
Gee Officer Krupkee doesn’t sound great IMO.
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Post by alece10 on Dec 7, 2021 10:16:41 GMT
Big, and interesting, feature on This Morning just now. Worth watching on catch up. First 15 mins of the programme.
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Post by stuartmcd on Dec 7, 2021 16:20:06 GMT
Gee Officer Krupkee doesn’t sound great IMO. What don’t you like about it? |
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Post by anthony40 on Dec 7, 2021 17:18:41 GMT
You know with such a positive buzz about this film from those who've seen it and the success of tick...tick...Boom! (hopefully) this ,ay bring forth some more movie musicals filmed in a similar way.
Just a thought
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Post by Jon on Dec 7, 2021 17:21:47 GMT
You know with such a positive buzz about this film from those who've seen it and the success of tick...tick...Boom! (hopefully) this ,ay bring forth some more movie musicals filmed in a similar way. Just a thought I think it will lead to more of the classics getting new film adaptations. I know MGM has a new Fiddler on the Roof in development for example. |
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Post by barrowside on Dec 7, 2021 21:48:04 GMT
I would like us to get better versions of the classics whose movie versions aren't great (Carousel, South Pacific) or some that haven't been filmed at all (Mack & Mabel) but suspect that like West Side Story they will remake good movies such as Oliver!
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Post by Jon on Dec 8, 2021 0:03:01 GMT
I would like us to get better versions of the classics whose movie versions aren't great (Carousel, South Pacific) or some that haven't been filmed at all (Mack & Mabel) but suspect that like West Side Story they will remake good movies such as Oliver! I'd like see My Fair Lady redone, Oliver! was in development with Cameron Mackintosh teaming up with Sony and Working Title. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2021 0:19:08 GMT
I would like us to get better versions of the classics whose movie versions aren't great (Carousel, South Pacific) or some that haven't been filmed at all (Mack & Mabel) but suspect that like West Side Story they will remake good movies such as Oliver! Alas, I just think CAROUSEL is too "problematic" for a major motion picture these days. But gosh, that score.... |
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