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Post by ali973 on Jun 9, 2017 17:48:12 GMT
I don't get it..
But anyway who is the standby? I would love to hear or see how he does. I believe he's been on once already (and not just last night).
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Post by 49thand8th on Jun 9, 2017 18:08:53 GMT
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Post by singularsensation10 on Jun 9, 2017 20:59:32 GMT
I'm going to the show tomorrow matinee (visiting from London) - I'm usually one to be all open to understudies but in this case I was very much looking forward to seeing Ben. Hoping he'll be back tomorrow but equally want him to properly recover. I was working through some of the score today and it's not an easy sing at all, I'm surprised he's lasted this long without a proper standby/alternate to be honest.
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Post by singularsensation10 on Jun 10, 2017 23:19:54 GMT
Saw the show today - Ben was off still and Colton Ryan was playing Evan.
As far as the show goes, I wanted more. I feel like the staging and production in general was too minimal. I don't have any negative comments at all - in fact I enjoyed it, and cried twice. But the show just didn't give me anything more than I wanted or expected.
Colton as Evan did a good job, but his portrayal was inauthentic, a carbon copy of Ben's characterisation. If he had his own interpretation of the role I dont think you would have realised he is the understudy. That being said he was incredibly well received - I think this show will do well without him IF the guy playing Evan has his own interpretation.
Loved everyone else - I liked Mike Faist but I'm not sure exactly what made his performance tony worthy??
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Post by ali973 on Jun 11, 2017 15:13:32 GMT
Mike Faist being nominated is the most unnecessary thing. I'm sure he's surprised as most of us.
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Post by doritxuuu on Jun 13, 2017 17:56:33 GMT
I don't get it.. But anyway who is the standby? I would love to hear or see how he does. I believe he's been on once already (and not just last night). I saw Colton on Saturday - he did a decent job but having seen Ben in a bootleg, there was a massive gap between performances. He has potential but I felt that he sometimes struggled to remain consistent, both vocally and acting-wise and the performance was not as deep as Ben's. I do agree that it felt like he tried (or was asked?) to copy Ben in most scenes. I would have loved to see Ben but considering how difficult it was to get SRO during Tony's week, I am 100% happy that I just got to see the show. Rachel Bay Jones alone would have made all the hassle worth it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2017 18:01:41 GMT
Colton singing Waving Through a Window:
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Post by ali973 on Jun 13, 2017 18:44:20 GMT
He's alright. I like how he has his own reading and a little riff here and there without being annoying. I could imagine he can grow into it if he goes on more often. Ben has the advantage of having done all the workshops and the two major productions before going to Broadway and rarely missing shows. I believe Colton went on no more than 5 times (I would think 4 max). He sounds fine but I doubt he'd get bumped up once Ben leaves. I think they'll probably recruit someone new to create a new buzz and invite in the media again.
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Post by 49thand8th on Jul 3, 2017 16:03:28 GMT
Why are people like this?! (And by "people," I don't mean Ben Platt.)
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Post by ali973 on Jul 3, 2017 17:30:20 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised considering how "people" is synonymous with spoiled teenage brats (the "like OMG I cried when he signed my Playbill" type). I mean, people who ACTUALLY cry because of an experience like this are just too much.
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Post by welsh_tenor on Jul 3, 2017 18:26:12 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised considering how "people" is synonymous with spoiled teenage brats (the "like OMG I cried when he signed my Playbill" type). I mean, people who ACTUALLY cry because of an experience like this are just too much. I'd advise you to stay away from the Wicked thread...........
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Post by ali973 on Jul 3, 2017 19:12:07 GMT
Anastasia too..Sad to say that I'm on the Facebook group and the the amount of "omg I cried when I saw Christy at the stage door" posts is in double digits. This tends to alternate with "omg I will cry like right now" (or "omg I'm like about to cry").
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Post by ali973 on Jul 3, 2017 19:12:36 GMT
Anastasia too..Sad to say that I'm on the Facebook group and the the amount of "omg I cried when I saw Christy at the stage door" posts is in double digits. This tends to alternate with "omg I will cry like right now" (or "omg I'm like about to cry").
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Post by theatremadness on Jul 3, 2017 20:04:43 GMT
Unfortunately, it seems it may have stemmed from this Trump-loving (I say this not to use that as an excuse to dislike her, but it features quite heavily on her twitter feed, and as you can see, she's not the nicest of them...) mother:
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Post by showbizkid on Jul 4, 2017 7:26:03 GMT
To be honest I'm on Diana's side. It takes nothing but effort to go to a stage door and sign some programmes. It is annoying for actors yes but it is part of the job, success, status, ego, fans and everything that goes with it. There is no reason why he cannot go downstairs and sign programmes. Period.
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Post by kathryn on Jul 4, 2017 7:58:47 GMT
I think he's probably a better judge of whether there's a reason he can't do it than you are - given that he is actually there at the time, and you are not.
If he needs to have rest, a physical therapy session, eat or drink, or just keep himself well away from the accumulated germs of a stage door crowd to avoid getting ill, how would you know?
Buying a ticket to a show gets you just that - a ticket to the show. It doesn't get you a meet-and-greet.
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Post by showbizkid on Jul 4, 2017 8:05:57 GMT
I think he's probably a better judge of whether there's a reason he can't do it than you are - given that he is actually there at the time, and you are not. If he needs to have rest, a physical therapy session, eat or drink, or just keep himself well away from the accumulated germs of a stage door crowd to avoid getting ill, how would you know? Buying a ticket to a show gets you just that - a ticket to the show. It doesn't get you a meet-and-greet. Actually I played one of the most demanding roles in theatre when I was 20, most of the cast members slipped through the other exits. I purposely went and signed programmes and had photos with fans because I was once one of those as a child. Of course I am not the lead role in DEH on Broadway but knowing what it's like to do 8 shows a week in a vocally strenuous show - going to the stage door really doesn't take that much. Indeed a ticket doesn't get you to meet anyone I agree.
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Post by Steffi on Jul 4, 2017 8:28:41 GMT
Looking at the crowds at some Broadway stage doors (and Dear Evan Hanson's stage door is CRAZY, I've walked past more than once) I think it does take much to spend time there after a demanding performance. It's not a thing of going outside for a couple of minutes. Popular actors spend up to 45 minutes at stage door post show because there are SO many people and once they are out there they don't want to disappoint anyone. Insulting Ben because he chooses not to stage door after every performance is completely out of line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 8:31:16 GMT
So if you've played whatever this demanding role was in professional theatre, you're fully aware there's absolutely nothing in the contract requiring you to meet fans at the stage door and that it was entirely your choice to do so, just as it was your colleagues' and Mr Platt's choice to avoid the situation for whatever reasons of their own?
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Post by kathryn on Jul 4, 2017 9:09:43 GMT
I think he's probably a better judge of whether there's a reason he can't do it than you are - given that he is actually there at the time, and you are not. If he needs to have rest, a physical therapy session, eat or drink, or just keep himself well away from the accumulated germs of a stage door crowd to avoid getting ill, how would you know? Buying a ticket to a show gets you just that - a ticket to the show. It doesn't get you a meet-and-greet. Actually I played one of the most demanding roles in theatre when I was 20, most of the cast members slipped through the other exits. I purposely went and signed programmes and had photos with fans because I was once one of those as a child. Of course I am not the lead role in DEH on Broadway but knowing what it's like to do 8 shows a week in a vocally strenuous show - going to the stage door really doesn't take that much. Indeed a ticket doesn't get you to meet anyone I agree. Then you should know well enough that a performer's first responsibility is to make sure they are fit enough to give the best performance they can each night. For Ben Platt on DEH that means not going to the stage door every night. You should respect that it's his voice, his body, and his choice. After all, one day you might be in a position where you make the same decision.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 9:47:20 GMT
Completely agree with Ben's stance on this and if I were him at this point I would have stopped stage dooring all together due to the stories I've heard about this stage door in particular. However, not sure what the need for a long statement was. There was only one woman tweeting him (who clearly has issues) and she could easily be ignored or directly replied to.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 9:51:26 GMT
To be honest I'm on Diana's side. That her side is expressed in comments such as "you suck and you are not that cute" makes her sound like she's twelve. It's reasonable to be disappointed. It's not reasonable to throw a public tantrum over it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 10:39:20 GMT
The key is in her supposed Trump supporting, it's the use of twitter to shame, spew vitriol and have no self control that is mirrored. She is also supposed to be a medical doctor whilst writing like a vindictive eight year old, so, again, there's that mismatch of position and maturity. If you have a head of state who behaves like that then the whole country is tarnished.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 13:22:56 GMT
It does indeed take extra energy (physical and mental)and I know we're in summer now but in winter spending 20-30 minutes in the freezing cold is not doing any actor's voice/immune system any favours (plus all the people germs). And anyway, nothing in the contract says you HAVE to.
I think there's a real shift with younger fans used to the 'Meet and Greet' world of conventions etc where you DO pay to meet a star that is bleeding over to theatre fans. Not to say that there haven't always been entitled brats, old and young but I think the social media/online fandom element is feeding it a bit too.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Jul 4, 2017 15:38:01 GMT
Alice Ripley had the same problem, since she was in a show about mental illness fans at the stage door thought she was their therapist. She always talked about stage door as a draining, exhausting experience.
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