George Floyd Protests

And each one of these unexpected shifts creates more momentum, as well as pressures others to do something that previously they might not have considered.

I've reconsidered my position on whether it's appropriate to continue the protests, considering the effects that they've been having in the US. I hope that this time it makes a real difference.

Mods, please could we have the posts on the protests and systemic racism moved a separate thread? This is an important discussion we should be having.

Thank you.

Thank you, much appreciated!

Protests work:

NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio has pledged for the first time to cut the city's police funding. He said he planned to divert some of the funds to social services.

"We're committed to seeing a shift of funding to youth services, to social services."

www.nytimes.com/2020/06/07/nyregion/deblasio-nypd-funding.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

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The Appeal: A veto-proof majority of Minneapolis City Council members will announce their commitment to disbanding the city's embattled police department.

theappeal.org/minneapolis-city-council-members-announce-intent-to-disband-the-police-department-invest-in-proven-community-led-public-safety/

I think these protests do more harm than good and the results will create a separation bigger than ever before.
There is no doubt that the police officer was wrong, a power tripper who treated a criminal in an unfair way and he needs to be judged for it.

With that said, these protests have taken the lives of many police officers now, ruined an incredible amount of (black) lives, people have been stabbed and shot, including the many people that lost their lives because of protesters was a 4 year old black girl. Dead.

Every person using the George Floyd situation to address systemic racism in the country has blood on their hands. And let me explain that.
Last year, 19 white unarmed criminals were killed in police encounters versus 9 black unarmed criminals.
This is a huge difference. And this while 53% of the police encounters was with black people. This difference in percentage is unreal.
This means that black people are actually being spared by police immensely. The rest of the cases was armed criminals and cases of self defense.

The amount of police officers killed by black criminals is 10 fold the amount of police officers killed by white criminals. Police officers must therefore be extra careful.

It is unfair that George Floyd is treated as a hero and a martyr now, not only because of these numbers, but also because he has been in jail 7 times. He was just released from prison, because he broke into a pregnant woman's house, held her at gunpoint while he robbed her house and assaulted her. What happened last week was an encounter between a police officer and a heavy criminal. The media is trying to hide this. Also the fact that he threw away bags of drugs during his arrest is hidden in the media. Because this caused the cop to put him on the ground, as it is an extra danger, he could be armed too.

The protests about this case are completely out of line and the protesters seem to have even less respect for human life than the police officer.
Yes, there is systemic racism. Only this case had nothing to do with that. Actually with the opposite when you look at the numbers.

Black people in the USA dominate the pop charts, can become president, actors, talkshow hosts, lawyers, judges, we were actually going into the right direction years ago, step by step things were going better. To stay in musical terms, black people play Phantom, Evan Hansen, Billy Elliot, Glinda, etc. People tended to think less in color. Now, the gap is bigger than ever before. Nobody dares to treat a black person as a normal person anymore. The percentage in the casting world seems to be really off lately, in every commercial of 2 there is at least one black person. Now I don't mind this, but we must realize that this is completely off from the 12% of the population that is black. Why are companies so nervous and scared? Because there are so many other races out there, for example Asian people who do not have this social benefit/privilege. And even when the percentages are so much higher than the actual population, isn't that a wonderful thing to celebrate? Never before have I seen 1 black person in every commercial of 2. And yes, that is a privilege.

Someone mentioned that the protests seem to work. I think they do not. The reason these companies do things is because of total panic and fear of being called racist. While many of those companies were actually seeing people as people before. I'm sure casting directors (to give a random example) will give even more roles to black people now, to a point where it does not match society anymore in the slightest. But people have found out that "the victim role" is excellent to get what you want and if you scream loud enough, nobody dares to say anything about it. My question is, when are people content? How high must the difference be/stay?

Poster J said that the George Floyd protests and systemic racism should actually be separated in 2 different threads. I agree. Both things have nothing to do with eachother.

Here is a clip of a black American lady who can explain it better from her perspective:



There is a huge movement coming up. This lady has received letters from celebrities and athletes who have written her in privacy, thanking her— claiming that the mob is making them support #BLM publicly, even though they disagree with the message, privately. They are afraid to lose their careers but know the truth and are a part of the silent (silenced) majority.

And here are the actual numbers of the total amount of people killed by police officers in the USA annually:

Whites 55%
Blacks 27%
Hispanic 19%

While 53% of police encounters is with black people.
Can anyone provide me with 1 name of a white or hispanic person that was killed by a police officer this year?

Some fruit for thought.

Wow.

Please watch the video and you will understand.

Well, they start with the suggestion that the narrative that American police forces are prejudiced against black suspects is a lie, and at this point there's SO much evidence to disprove that theory that it's difficult to take anything that follows seriously.

Here's the thing about YouTube: if you look hard enough - and usually you don't have to look very hard at all - you'll find some halfwit endorsing pretty much any garbage viewpoint. The fact that someone with a smartphone and wifi chooses to put a six-minute word salad online means nothing much other than that bandwidth is cheap.

As for George Floyd, and what his other criminal activities might have been - he was arrested because he passed a counterfeit bill. Maybe it was an accident, maybe it wasn't. When a white person does it, and it DOES sometimes happen by accident, the outcome is never death by traumatic asphyxiation.

A lot of privilege and latent racism seems to have arrived recently in this thread.

Wow, again

Yes they do. The numbers you quoted - I have neither the time nor the inclination to watch an 18-minute video - are bald percentages, and she (I assume) quotes them to mask the demonstrable fact that the per-capita rate for black Americans is much, much higher than for whites. Or to put it another way, that 27% is drawn from somewhere around 13% of the overall population.

For more information, you could start here:

Black Americans 2.5x more likely to be killed by police