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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 15, 2021 9:49:56 GMT
Allowing the over 40’s to be boostered when there is still a lot of over 50’s not yet had a third is a sign that we going to get 20% or so refusing a third dose. Worrying news for the winter.
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Post by zahidf on Nov 15, 2021 9:55:04 GMT
Allowing the over 40’s to be boostered when there is still a lot of over 50’s not yet had a third is a sign that we going to get 20% or so refusing a third dose. Worrying news for the winter. your numbers dont really have any basis in reality. |
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 15, 2021 11:04:17 GMT
I don't understand - to prepare the UK for living with Covid, they are removing every single rule that is currently allowing us to go about our lives freely whilst living with Covid? This is what living with Covid is! |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 15, 2021 11:23:39 GMT
I don't understand - to prepare the UK for living with Covid, they are removing every single rule that is currently allowing us to go about our lives freely whilst living with Covid? This is what living with Covid is! There are people who has been told even with the vaccine they will still quite likely end up suffering nasty side effects from Covid. Those people will have to have contact with people who are knowingly infected and even symptomatic but no longer have to stay at home. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 15, 2021 11:54:33 GMT
I think GP’s surgeries have seen their reputations suffer during Covid. Just frequent complaints about so called modern ways of working stressing patients and their families out and possible leading to worse treatments.
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Post by Mark on Nov 15, 2021 12:24:35 GMT
I think GP’s surgeries have seen their reputations suffer during Covid. Just frequent complaints about so called modern ways of working stressing patients and their families out and possible leading to worse treatments. It's so difficult with GPs. Tried to get an appointment for the first time in years and they have a system where you do a form online and they can call you at any time during the next day, and if you don't answer you have to do another form. Just not practical for a lot of working people to be on hand all day. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 15, 2021 12:44:34 GMT
I think GP’s surgeries have seen their reputations suffer during Covid. Just frequent complaints about so called modern ways of working stressing patients and their families out and possible leading to worse treatments. It's so difficult with GPs. Tried to get an appointment for the first time in years and they have a system where you do a form online and they can call you at any time during the next day, and if you don't answer you have to do another form. Just not practical for a lot of working people to be on hand all day. Very Much so. I missed one like that as it stopped ringing by time I had left the bathroom. I had to fill in another form and wait another three days as they wouldn’t add me to the list for the end of the day/the following day. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2021 13:21:19 GMT
With my GP they'll phone back on the same day, but it could be any time up until the early evening.
Except in special circumstances they don't take advance bookings for appointments to see a doctor, because if they did there's the risk of appointments gradually creeping further and further into the future. If you want to see a doctor you phone on the day, and if they're particularly busy then the wait in the phone queue to make an appointment filters out the cases that aren't urgent. It seems to work pretty well.
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 15, 2021 14:56:57 GMT
With my GP they'll phone back on the same day, but it could be any time up until the early evening. Except in special circumstances they don't take advance bookings for appointments to see a doctor, because if they did there's the risk of appointments gradually creeping further and further into the future. If you want to see a doctor you phone on the day, and if they're particularly busy then the wait in the phone queue to make an appointment filters out the cases that aren't urgent. It seems to work pretty well. And that only works if you able to have your phone on for at least most of the day. Many people work in jobs when they not allowed to access their phone except during breaks. |
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Post by olliebean on Nov 15, 2021 17:48:28 GMT
I don't understand - to prepare the UK for living with Covid, they are removing every single rule that is currently allowing us to go about our lives freely whilst living with Covid? This is what living with Covid is! I don't think it will happen, because I don't think the Covid situation will have sufficiently improved by then to justify it. Johnson has always been delusionally optimistic about how quickly and successfully we are going to get past Covid, and this is another example of that. |
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Post by christya on Nov 15, 2021 18:22:00 GMT
It's so difficult with GPs. Tried to get an appointment for the first time in years and they have a system where you do a form online and they can call you at any time during the next day, and if you don't answer you have to do another form. Just not practical for a lot of working people to be on hand all day. I had fun with that one a while back. Needed an appointment, with an actual GP. Called repeatedly until I could get into a queue instead of a busy signal, eventually after three days of trying and a 45 minute queue, got told 'someone' would call me. No, I want to make an appointment, so already I'm not happy about it. Then I'm told that if I miss the one call they'll bother to make, I have to arrange it again via the same system. Naturally, they call during the only time I couldn't pick up, so I have to go through the whole thing again. Person who calls agrees I need to see 'someone' and I get an appointment - only to turn up and find it's a nurse, not a GP. She is basically about as much help as Google except for dispensing antibiotics I'm fairly sure I don't need, but asks 'why I didn't come in before'. Chance would have been a fine thing. I ask if I can see a GP - call again in two weeks. And, presumably, go through the whole rigmarole again. Gave up and booked a private appointment with a specialist, who actually helped (and agreed the antibiotics were a waste of time). ÂŁ160 down. I'm signing up with BUPA. |
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Post by lynette on Nov 15, 2021 19:39:43 GMT
It's so difficult with GPs. Tried to get an appointment for the first time in years and they have a system where you do a form online and they can call you at any time during the next day, and if you don't answer you have to do another form. Just not practical for a lot of working people to be on hand all day. I had fun with that one a while back. Needed an appointment, with an actual GP. Called repeatedly until I could get into a queue instead of a busy signal, eventually after three days of trying and a 45 minute queue, got told 'someone' would call me. No, I want to make an appointment, so already I'm not happy about it. Then I'm told that if I miss the one call they'll bother to make, I have to arrange it again via the same system. Naturally, they call during the only time I couldn't pick up, so I have to go through the whole thing again. Person who calls agrees I need to see 'someone' and I get an appointment - only to turn up and find it's a nurse, not a GP. She is basically about as much help as Google except for dispensing antibiotics I'm fairly sure I don't need, but asks 'why I didn't come in before'. Chance would have been a fine thing. I ask if I can see a GP - call again in two weeks. And, presumably, go through the whole rigmarole again. Gave up and booked a private appointment with a specialist, who actually helped (and agreed the antibiotics were a waste of time). £160 down. I'm signing up with BUPA. Don’t blame you. And they wonder why there are so many undiagnosed sick people waiting… |
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Post by talkingheads on Nov 17, 2021 8:34:35 GMT
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Post by christya on Nov 17, 2021 10:20:18 GMT
That place needs to be shut down - as an example to other businesses that might think it's a good idea, aside from anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 10:21:00 GMT
One cinema has taken a stand against Covid passes, refusing to check them. I don't understand the mentality behind people making a stand against things that they can't influence. What do they expect will happen?
It's like the people who made a stand against the introduction of mandatory seatbelt laws. You can make as much of a fuss as you like, and perhaps you might even get the law changed, but the underlying reason for the law is still there and doesn't give a crap about whether anyone likes it or not. There seems to be this weird belief among many people that if a problem hasn't affected them personally then it can't be real.
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Post by zahidf on Nov 17, 2021 10:43:46 GMT
Covid pass doesn't seem to have made a difference in Scotland
So I don't think there is any point to them, and it should be up to the businesses in question
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 17, 2021 10:49:04 GMT
Covid pass doesn't seem to have made a difference in Scotland So I don't think there is any point to them, and it should be up to the businesses in question It only increases uptake if it has a major impact on day to day life. If it covers everything but food shopping then uptake would obviously increase. |
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Post by zahidf on Nov 17, 2021 11:35:19 GMT
Germany ( with the rest of Western Europe following) are having rates as bad as the UK now, but more deaths and hospitlisations. Masks and Covid Passes and Masks didn't seem to make much of a difference
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 17, 2021 11:37:30 GMT
Germany hasn’t had Covid passes till very recently. The highest deaths and serious cases are in the least vaccinated states. So covid passes do help prevent deaths and serious cases.
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Post by lynette on Nov 17, 2021 21:00:53 GMT
There is a lot of vaccine refusal in Germany and Austria. Too much here of course but I think the jabs making a difference here. Well, fingers crossed…eh?
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Post by jess173 on Nov 18, 2021 11:54:31 GMT
There is a lot of vaccine refusal in Germany and Austria. Too much here of course but I think the jabs making a difference here. Well, fingers crossed…eh? Vaccination rate in Germany is 67,7% and 68,5% in the UK. 0,7% isn’t that much of a difference… Austrias is 64,8%… |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 18, 2021 12:07:13 GMT
There is a lot of vaccine refusal in Germany and Austria. Too much here of course but I think the jabs making a difference here. Well, fingers crossed…eh? Vaccination rate in Germany is 67,7% and 68,5% in the UK. 0,7% isn’t that much of a difference… Austrias is 64,8%… We in the Uk lower in kids I think while Germany has more adults who are unjabbed. The later is more dangerous because unvaccinated adults (particularly the over 50’s) are much more likely to require hospital treatment and sadly die than unvaccinated under 18’s. |
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 18, 2021 18:34:59 GMT
The studies are very promising regarding the effectiveness of the booster jab. Looks like it reduces infections by quite a bit more than after two jabs some studies have shown.
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Post by olliebean on Nov 18, 2021 18:42:52 GMT
Had mine this morning, along with the flu jab. They gave me the Moderna (my first two were AstraZeneca). My Moderna arm is now hurting like hell, whilst my flu arm is fine.
What I'm hoping is that it'll turn out the protection doesn't wane in the same way after the booster as it does after the first two jabs, so we won't have to keep having boosters every 6 months or every year (unless there's a new variant that needs one).
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Post by hairspray57 on Nov 18, 2021 18:45:14 GMT
Had mine this morning, along with the flu jab. They gave me the Moderna (my first two were AstraZeneca). My Moderna arm is now hurting like hell, whilst my flu arm is fine. What I'm hoping is that it'll turn out the protection doesn't wane in the same way after the booster as it does after the first two jabs, so we won't have to keep having boosters every 6 months or every year (unless there's a new variant that needs one). I think annual boosters are fairly likely due to the variant issue. Like the flu. |
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