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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 17:23:25 GMT
Allegiance wouldn't be like Finding Neverland... it closed ages ago so it wouldn't surprise anyone if it got no nominations.
Cynthia is pretty close to a lock as you can get this year. I also hope The Color Purple does well.
I actually don't think Hamilton will win every award under the sun like most are predicting. It will in a lot (Musical, Score etc...) but I have a strange feeling that it won't win everything or sweep as big as most people seem to think it will. I had the same feeling about Dan Burton in Gypsy so I'm not counting it out haha.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 27, 2016 17:29:49 GMT
Allegiance wouldn't be like Finding Neverland... it closed ages ago so it wouldn't surprise anyone if it got no nominations. Cynthia is pretty close to a lock as you can get this year. I also hope The Color Purple does well. I actually don't think Hamilton will win every award under the sun like most are predicting. It will in a lot (Musical, Score etc...) but I have a strange feeling that it won't win everything or sweep as big as most people seem to think it will. I had the same feeling about Dan Burton in Gypsy so I'm not counting it out haha. The Tony committee may also want to let some other show's shine, they know Hamilton doesn't need any help with publicity! I think it will at least get one of the acting category's though, which I reckon will be Daveed or Renée. I think Jonathan Groff hurt his chances of a win when he left the show.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 17:35:01 GMT
And let us not forget that Hamilton opened way at the beginning of the Season. Sure, no one has forgotten it haha, but the Tony Committee, as mentioned above, may just want to honour a different show. I think Daveed has the biggest chance, as Renée has a lot of people to battle it out with, including Jennifer and Danielle of The Color Purple.
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Post by Steffi on Apr 27, 2016 17:40:38 GMT
Cynthia seems to be very much set to win (I could be totally wrong here, of course). And while I think Lin will be nominated I don't think he's a set winner despite the Hamilton hype. I can see Danny Burstein winning. I've seen him in Fiddler twice and was impressed by his performance.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 27, 2016 18:34:04 GMT
Allegiance was far from a perfect show, but it had a lot going for it and I'm afraid it'll be forgotten come nomination time.
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Post by bjorne on Apr 27, 2016 18:39:33 GMT
Is the Spring Awakening revival eligible or closed too soon (I still don't understand how it works, sorry)? Because I would give best Directing and Choreography to Michael Arden and Spencer Liff. At least as a nomination. (I loved the show)
But for the best revival of a musical what are the nominees? Spring Awakening, Fiddler, the Color Purple... Dames at sea? I don't remember what else opened this year.
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Post by Jon on Apr 27, 2016 18:43:10 GMT
And let us not forget that Hamilton opened way at the beginning of the Season. Sure, no one has forgotten it haha, but the Tony Committee, as mentioned above, may just want to honour a different show. I think Daveed has the biggest chance, as Renée has a lot of people to battle it out with, including Jennifer and Danielle of The Color Purple. I doubt they'll select another show over Hamilton for best musical. The backlash would be too great.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 27, 2016 18:50:14 GMT
Is the Spring Awakening revival eligible or closed too soon (I still don't understand how it works, sorry)? Because I would give best Directing and Choreography to Michael Arden and Spencer Liff. At least as a nomination. (I loved the show) It is eligible. The time between two productions for the second to be considered a revival is three years. Spring Awakening had 9 years. www.tonyawards.com/pdf/2015_Tony_Rules_and_Regulations.pdf <-- see page 7
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Post by bjorne on Apr 27, 2016 18:54:55 GMT
I see! Thank you!
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Post by Phantom of London on Apr 27, 2016 19:03:24 GMT
Spring Awakening will join: Fiddler On The Roof, She Loves Me, Dames At Sea and The Colour Purple.
Probably the hardest of all the catogories to call, any of them could win, except Dames at Sea, my money would be on Fiddler on the Roof.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 19:52:20 GMT
I love Lin an awful lot, and wouldn't mind him getting a nomination for best actor, but in that category, he honestly stands no chance and that's okay.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 27, 2016 19:58:59 GMT
I love Lin an awful lot, and wouldn't mind him getting a nomination for best actor, but in that category, he honestly stands no chance and that's okay. Even many of his fans acknowledge acting is not his strong point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 20:02:01 GMT
Id like to see Dames at Sea her a Choreography and Supporting Actress for Lesli nomination. I could see it happening too, which I would love!
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Post by talkstageytome on Apr 28, 2016 7:44:46 GMT
Hamilton is probably going to sweep the board, with a lot of noms and then I guess it'll win most categories it's nominated in.
I'd like to see Lea Salonga and Telly Leung nominated for the best actress and actor categories, for their roles in Allegiance. Although I thought the show was only okay, their performances were wonderful. Salonga is still one of the most fabulous leading women, and Leung was terrific too. Other than that I can't see the show picking up any awards. I'd like to see Cynthia Erivo win best actress and Renee Elise Goldsberry win best supporting actress. Best actor should be Leslie Odem Jr.
I's also like to see Spring Awakening pick up a couple of nominations.
Very excited for the nominations to be announced!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 28, 2016 8:48:44 GMT
Actually, from what I've heard, the Tony committee only saw the show before Jonathan Groff left. I read somewhere they wanted to wait until closer to the Tony's and then Groff had a sudden departure and they rushed to get everyone in. So, if this information is correct, it will still be fresh in their minds. I think musical is a lock, most likely score, perhaps lighting. It's definitely going to get at least one acting award. I actually think Lin is the best actor in Hamilton, but I know I am extremely in the minority there.
I didn't see Allegiance, but from I've read I don't think it will get any nominations for leading. Those category's are just too strong.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 28, 2016 16:20:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 16:57:24 GMT
When Lin win's for the Score, I hope he does a normal speech rather than rap like he did the last time. I get he is a talented guy and everything, I am a big fan of In the Heights, but I kind of watched that speech and felt it was (don't shoot me!) somewhat arrogant. And obviously I don't want to have that thought about him, as he is a super talented guy, but it just came across that way to me, and I realise I am in the minority.
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Post by Steffi on Apr 28, 2016 18:30:00 GMT
That's your opinion and obviously you're entitled to it but arrogant is the last thing that would come to my mind when thinking about Lin. So far he's come across as extremely talented and nice in everything I've watched. Plus he's a proper theatre nerd. There's a reason a lot of theatre fans see him as "one of us". :-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 18:44:18 GMT
That's your opinion and obviously you're entitled to it but arrogant is the last thing that would come to my mind when thinking about Lin. So far he's come across as extremely talented and nice in everything I've watched. Plus he's a proper theatre nerd. There's a reason a lot of theatre fans see him as "one of us". :-) I completely understand, and I think he is a hugely talented person as I mentioned previously and I really like him too... it was just that speech that I felt, if I knew nothing about him at all, it would come across as slightly arrogant or showing off.
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Post by 49thand8th on Apr 28, 2016 18:45:04 GMT
I like Lin, but one day I want to see him just go rogue and sing his thank-you speech in the style of Maria Callas.
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Post by Hamilton Addict on Apr 29, 2016 8:37:13 GMT
When Lin win's for the Score, I hope he does a normal speech rather than rap like he did the last time. I get he is a talented guy and everything, I am a big fan of In the Heights, but I kind of watched that speech and felt it was (don't shoot me!) somewhat arrogant. And obviously I don't want to have that thought about him, as he is a super talented guy, but it just came across that way to me, and I realise I am in the minority. Actually, I don't think you are in the minority there, I've seen quite a a few people saying similar things. Arrogant or not, I'm ok with it, Lin can do no wrong in my eyes!
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Post by Hamilton Addict on May 3, 2016 7:52:46 GMT
The nominations are being announced later today for the Hamiltony's... I mean the Tony's.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 8:56:15 GMT
I think there's a line between confidence in your abilities and arrogance. Arrogance is if you think you're better than everyone else. Lin is constantly shouting out people who inspire him (even within these rap acceptance speeches). I met him a while ago and I must have been the millionth person to tell him Hamilton is great but the way he gave me such a genuine thankyou, I may as well have been the first. He then gave up five minutes of his time to talk to me about the London transfer, joke around etc. Couldn't be less arrogant but has earned the right to be confident in his talent and it would be very hard not to be confident with everyone telling you how great you are all of the time and winning awards every other week.
As I said in the other thread, crossing my fingers for a Phillipa Soo nomination today! She actually gave my favourite performance in the show (closely followed by Leslie Odom Jr and Daveed Diggs) and Eliza was my favourite character to watch. Definitely care about her character arc more than Angelica's, although Angelica obviously has Satisfied which is a big showstopper (Helpless is personally my favourite song of the whole show.) The other nominations I care about are mostly locked already I believe.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 9:21:14 GMT
I have a weird feeling, much as everyone wants it to happen, that Hamilton is not going to get as many nominations or awards as people are suspecting. Whether it deserves them or not is a completely different matter, but especailly now with Shuffle Along... in the mix, hugely packed Acting catagories etc, I don't know why but I have a strange feeling we are in for a few surprises later on today and on the night.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 9:25:57 GMT
I have a weird feeling, much as everyone wants it to happen, that Hamilton is not going to get as many nominations or awards as people are suspecting. Whether it deserves them or not is a completely different matter, but especailly now with Shuffle Along... in the mix, hugely packed Acting catagories etc, I don't know why but I have a strange feeling we are in for a few surprises later on today and on the night. Out of interest, which ones do you think it might not be nominated for? I think it will get at least one nomination in every eligible category except MAYBE lead actress for Phillipa, as that is such big competition. The revivals are really stronger than the original musicals this year so I think Hamilton will be fine. (Not that I think it will win everything, nor do I want it to).
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