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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 31, 2021 16:59:17 GMT
Christian Legal Centre have confirmed that an appeal against the tribunal judgement has been lodged.
Seems as if she is going away just yet
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 31, 2021 18:10:34 GMT
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 31, 2021 18:39:45 GMT
Absolutely horrendous. All we need now is for Boris to commision a report that states the UK isnt racist err I mean homophobic...
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 31, 2021 23:48:12 GMT
Surely you don't need a legal team when you have God on your side? I never believed in divine intervention, well not up to now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 8:16:28 GMT
I agree homophobia is still a relevant topic, although that wasn't what I said. I feel like I've not read any constructive discussion here about how theatre or society can move forward to eradicate homophobia further and become even more inclusive. Most of the discussion seems to be around general undermining of religious belief more than anything else. Fighting fire with fire doesn't work. I'm not religious myself but any Christian (with more judicious views than S.O.) may well feel persecuted by some of the responses in this thread. If Hocus Pocus taught us anything, it's burning witches for witchcraft didn't solve the problem. Part of the moral of this case is society needs to work together to be less divisive, but that seems to have been missed.
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Post by talkingheads on Apr 1, 2021 9:56:37 GMT
I agree homophobia is still a relevant topic, although that wasn't what I said. I feel like I've not read any constructive discussion here about how theatre or society can move forward to eradicate homophobia further and become even more inclusive. Most of the discussion seems to be around general undermining of religious belief more than anything else. Fighting fire with fire doesn't work. I'm not religious myself but any Christian (with more judicious views than S.O.) may well feel persecuted by some of the responses in this thread. If Hocus Pocus taught us anything, it's burning witches for witchcraft didn't solve the problem. Part of the moral of this case is society needs to work together to be less divisive, but that seems to have been missed. If this pandemic has taught me anything, it's the astonishing lack of empathy and compassion in the human race. I gave up trying to reason with anti maskers/bigots/homophobes ages ago because it was clear that reasoning with stupidity and ignorance does not work. However, if these issues are dealt with from an early age at an educational level where acceptance is taught in schools - I mean religious studies is still taught, I'd much rather kids were educated about compassion and love.
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Post by schuttep on Apr 1, 2021 10:03:48 GMT
I do agree with andrew and westlondon that she may not deserve this, but she has been very silly.
She wouldn't be on my ideal dinner party guest list.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 10:08:05 GMT
I agree that education plays a part, but you can't just lump it all on the schools and call it Teachers problem to solve, it's a far wider societal issue.
The problem with 'anti maskers/bigots/homophobes' is they generally only engage and communicate in unidirectional hyperbole, shouting back at them just confirms conflict and makes them harden their stance.
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Post by sph on Apr 1, 2021 11:51:09 GMT
I think talkingheads makes a very valid point regarding education - if religious studies is taught, then there should be some scope to learn about other parts of society too.
Looking back, it's almost bizarre that when I was at school, we discussed religion daily and were made to pray, but specific discussions about tolerance and gender and sexuality and the diversity of the world we live in was basically off-limits.
Now when schools try to introduce these discussions, they're met with protests.
There are other ways of approaching this though, if schools are unwilling to. I think it's great when influential figures show their support for LBGT people. Especially people like footballers, who traditionally have a more "macho" following. The presence of LGBT characters in shows and films who are not one-dimensional stereotypes is helpful too. It used to be that the "token" gay character was always an over-the-top caricature, but this is becoming less common.
And... the next generation of kids is just so much more tolerant already. Many children now grow up with an LGBT person in their lives somewhere, and it's not kept as a dirty secret or undiscussed as it was in my childhood. It's looking good for the future.
The part of society that supports people like Seyi Omooba is getting smaller. It'll never be completely gone, but it won't be the mainstream mindset as it used to be.
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Post by cherokee on Dec 12, 2023 18:36:13 GMT
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 12, 2023 18:40:17 GMT
Good luck with that hun.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Dec 12, 2023 23:46:18 GMT
Oh bless her and her absolute stupidity.
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Post by christya on Dec 12, 2023 23:53:23 GMT
She's really determined to drag this out. Give it a rest, you're finished!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 13, 2023 13:59:02 GMT
Sadly there are people who continue to fund the Christian Legal Centre which has a connection to her father.
They have a brilliant track record of losing cases. And will lose this case.
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Post by HereForTheatre on Dec 13, 2023 14:03:39 GMT
To go for a court case that could bankrupt a theatre, when theatre and arts is something you claim to love, is quite something. Curve have said that if they lost this it would seriously jeopardise their future, which is btw already not completely certain as the chief exec recently had an interview with The Stage where he said they were seriously struggling to break even and it's only going to get harder.
The audacity and arrogance of this women is quite something.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2023 2:39:34 GMT
Amazing this is still ongoing, hope she loses again.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Dec 14, 2023 9:22:06 GMT
I am sure that if the worst did happen, there would be moves to crowd fund to ensure that Curve did survive.
We can't let homophobes win
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Post by stevej678 on Dec 14, 2023 10:14:10 GMT
There's transcripts from each court session available here for anyone interested in following the proceedings in depth: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/appeal-seyi-omooba-v-michael-garrettSeveral are truncated due to technical issues with the video feed from the courtroom but there's enough that is covered to get a good overview of the key arguments of each party.
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Post by zahidf on Mar 6, 2024 16:30:19 GMT
Hopefully thats the end of that
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Post by toomasj on Mar 6, 2024 16:32:04 GMT
Good. No room for that in our industry.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 6, 2024 17:04:41 GMT
Her father will keep spreading his poison if he can. But we can hope it is the last time we need to hear of her.
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Post by SuttonPeron on Mar 6, 2024 20:01:12 GMT
Theatre is and should always be a safe space for queer people. Bigots like her don´t belong in our industry and hopefully won´t ever will.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 6, 2024 23:04:58 GMT
I my have stated this before, if I have, it's Wirth relating- what a mess!
I can't help but wonder if there are really any winners here? Just a thought.
I hope the she receives whatever support is necessary to move on.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 7, 2024 0:16:24 GMT
I my have stated this before, if I have, it's Wirth relating- what a mess! I can't help but wonder if there are really any winners here? Just a thought. I hope the she receives whatever support is necessary to move on. I hope we never hear anything about her ever again.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 7, 2024 1:46:34 GMT
I my have stated this before, if I have, it's Wirth relating- what a mess! I can't help but wonder if there are really any winners here? Just a thought. I hope the she receives whatever support is necessary to move on. Given her family background, that seems unlikely. Even if she does break away from that influence, I still wouldn't welcome her back on stage.
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