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Post by alittlefallofrain on May 6, 2021 21:34:34 GMT
Ivano is a cutie. Very charasmatic.
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Post by musicalmarge on May 7, 2021 4:27:32 GMT
Ok look at 1.21 and see the seating layout and turntable
My guess is that the WHOLE From section rotates with the stage and ends up FACING the audience.
ALW always wanted to use the auditorium revolve in cats but never did fully apart from the start. This way the audience in the stalls move to that stage position. You can see the metal railings/guards.
Thoughts?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on May 7, 2021 7:00:48 GMT
Slightly confused as to why they’re all wearing masks OUTside, but inside it’s masks off and lots of guffawing in each others faces?
Anyway, nice to see things underway, including cringey “introduce yourself to the rest of the cast” moment... “I’m Carrie and I’m playing Cinderella *giggle*” 😖
ALW asking Ivano Turco if he’s learned it.... 🙄
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Post by firefingers on May 7, 2021 7:42:02 GMT
Slightly confused as to why they’re all wearing masks OUTside, but inside it’s masks off and lots of guffawing in each others faces? Anyway, nice to see things underway, including cringey “introduce yourself to the rest of the cast” moment... “I’m Carrie and I’m playing Cinderella *giggle*” 😖 ALW asking Ivano Turco if he’s learned it.... 🙄 They'll be taking a lateral flow once inside. If it is anything like my show you take one every few days.
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Post by westlondon on May 7, 2021 9:12:26 GMT
Ivano: I'm nervous...
ALW: Listen, you're gonna come through, I think you're great...no pressure...no pressure at all! You've learned the songs, right?
Ivano: Ummm....yes....?
ALW: You promise?! YOU SWEAR?! Ivano: 😰😰😰😰
ALW: And acting...?! You can act right? You've been to your acting coach? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE SAY YOU CAN ACT???!!!!
Ivano: 💩.....🏃🏾♂️💨
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Post by steve10086 on May 7, 2021 9:39:11 GMT
And ALW couldn’t keep his hands off the poor lad (social distancing, anyone?)
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Post by musicalmarge on May 7, 2021 9:51:28 GMT
West end talent.
Have you learned your lines?
Maybe hire one of the students from arts ed, Mountview or Guildford who would have learned the lines before even getting the part.
Cheap. Ugh
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 7, 2021 9:51:58 GMT
<snort> at Andrew's arrival being soundtracked with "unwanted present". It was a bit awkward wasn't it? Like somebody had said "Oh, we'll do a clip of you having a chat about starting rehearsals" then just started filming.
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Post by danb on May 7, 2021 15:08:58 GMT
I cringed a great deal throughout...
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Post by couldileaveyou on May 7, 2021 16:04:15 GMT
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Post by alece10 on May 7, 2021 16:12:29 GMT
Only half revealed as it doesn't say who he is
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Post by HereForTheatre on May 8, 2021 11:57:43 GMT
It could simply be the case that these actors were cast because they were deemed the best for the part and just happened to be black? Just a thought.
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 8, 2021 12:29:09 GMT
I think in this case that if one of them is black it's probably easier for the audience to follow if they both are.
I think colour-blind casting is fine for most things, but I think in a. a new musical where people don't really know the story, and b. it sounds like the Princes will be being directly compared (stepping into his shoes etc.) it makes more sense for them to at least vaguely look like they could be related.
For that reason, I'd happily go with two Princes of any ethnic background that look like they could feasibly be brothers.
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 8, 2021 12:38:56 GMT
Yes, they've added Caleb Roberts on the cast page on the website, but not Rodney Vubya. God knows they weren't announced last week with that rest of the cast 🤷 They've added him now, but in the wrong place. They've just stuck him on the end of the alphabetically-ordered ensemble. Get it together website people.
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Post by marob on May 8, 2021 18:06:08 GMT
As badly judged as they are, those videos of ALW awkwardly trying to be funny with the cast actually make me want to see this. I’ve never been to this theatre, so I’m intrigued by the revolving seating for this. There’s some information here www.arthurlloyd.co.uk/GillianLynneTheatre.htm that says it takes 4 minutes to revolve, then rises up to create a rake. I can’t make my mind up if it sounds really cool, or like a daft gimmick. Either way it must be incredibly distracting.
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Post by ceebee on May 8, 2021 22:02:40 GMT
I just bought 3 preview seats on the revolve just for fun and don't care whether the actors are black, white or "sky-blue pink with yellow dots" as my grandma used to say.
In 2021 we surely must be able to see beyond colour, race, sexuality etc.
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Post by The Matthew on May 9, 2021 7:32:30 GMT
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Post by c4ndyc4ne on May 9, 2021 9:28:41 GMT
Only half revealed as it doesn't say who he is Obviously one of those click through kind of tweets - eyeballs on adverts and all that!
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Post by danb on May 9, 2021 10:04:35 GMT
At least its the guy who is playing the role, not a picture of Tom Cruise. (because he watched ‘Top Gun once). They are normally that tenuous.
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 9, 2021 10:24:53 GMT
It'll be interesting to see when the cast album comes out how many of this cast are actually on it, and how many tracks were recorded by somebody else.
I've seen it being marketed as a "original cast and celebrity guests" (or something like that).
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Post by musicalmarge on May 9, 2021 13:40:05 GMT
(Posts removed for reasons) Interesting to see that the mods won’t let us rationally discuss the problems with casting in 2021 in an adult way!!!! I look forward to more Asian, Indian, Pilipino actors being cast in lead roles! Moving on I’m excited to see the show.
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Post by danb on May 9, 2021 13:54:06 GMT
It isn’t untrue to say that, this season, a disproportionate amount of shows have a black male lead. It is disproportionate in relation to the last say, twenty five years of MT. However in previous seasons there have been disproportionately few, and even less POC in general, and then normally in ‘shows about specifics’ eg Miss Saigon, The Color Purple & Five Guys Named Mo to name a few.
Hopefully this signals a step change in casting that will be more representative of the people we know in our own lives.
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Post by The Matthew on May 9, 2021 14:46:31 GMT
(Posts removed for reasons) Interesting to see that the mods won’t let us rationally discuss the problems with casting in 2021 in an adult way!!!! We do let people discuss things rationally in an adult way. There was nothing adult about the discussion we removed, and the moderators do not appreciate it when we have to give up our free time to deal with people who think name-calling is a rational form of debate.
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Post by Dawnstar on May 9, 2021 16:27:37 GMT
Hopefully this signals a step change in casting that will be more representative of the people we know in our own lives. That will differ for everyone though. For those living outside large cities, the majority of the population is still white. Personally most people I know are white, including a quite a lot of Eastern Europeans at work, plus a few of Indian origin. The recent trend in musicals, where ethnic minority representation seems to only equal more black cast members, isn't at all representative of the people I know in my life.
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Post by marob on May 9, 2021 19:46:39 GMT
Hopefully this signals a step change in casting that will be more representative of the people we know in our own lives. That will differ for everyone though. For those living outside large cities, the majority of the population is still white. Personally most people I know are white, including a quite a lot of Eastern Europeans at work, plus a few of Indian origin. The recent trend in musicals, where ethnic minority representation seems to only equal more black cast members, isn't at all representative of the people I know in my life. It’s a slightly different mix here in Wales, but that pretty much describes my experience too.
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Post by musicalmarge on May 10, 2021 9:20:25 GMT
Hopefully this signals a step change in casting that will be more representative of the people we know in our own lives. That will differ for everyone though. For those living outside large cities, the majority of the population is still white. Personally most people I know are white, including a quite a lot of Eastern Europeans at work, plus a few of Indian origin. The recent trend in musicals, where ethnic minority representation seems to only equal more black cast members, isn't at all representative of the people I know in my life. THANK YOU!!!!! (and it’s not just a few main cities.... it’s MOST cities AND towns across the UK where it’s 92/95/98 per cent white population) That is all my issue is, and it angers me more that you are called racist for saying this. Casting is casting and nothing else. Moving on......
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Post by musicalmarge on May 10, 2021 9:28:18 GMT
Why have we heard so little about the song Far Too Late - it’s the best song in my opinion!
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 10, 2021 11:14:01 GMT
Why have we heard so little about the song Far Too Late - it’s the best song in my opinion! I think they might have cut it from the show. They took down the video from the official YouTube channel, and they seem to have scrubbed any sign of it from their social media. It's still pinned at the top of Carrie's twitter feed, and you can buy the sheet music for it. And when they put out a track list (when IKIHAH came out) with some song names blacked out, they hadn't blacked them all out very well, and you could see Far Too Late on there. I wondered whether it might actually be a duet? So they haven't released the "proper" soundtrack version.
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Post by max on May 10, 2021 11:41:14 GMT
Danb made a point up thread that chimed with me, about casting increasingly reflecting the UK we see around us. However it's been pointed out that many people don't see that - living in almost all white areas, so perhaps that's not a world view or industry yardstick people can unite around. Happily we have the 2011 census (and will soon get the 2021 stats). In 2011 86% of the UK was white. None of the 14% have been princes in 'Wicked' during its London run (on major cast announcements at least), and the prince in Frozen hasn't been cast that way either. I'm very happy that all those Princes were picked on the best person for the job (casting team's subjective choice) . I'm also happy that the casting of CINDERELLA went as it did - best people for the job (casting team's subjective choice), with the happy by-product of making a small dent in those missing 14% of Princes. Not bad, Cinderella.
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Post by FairyGodmother on May 10, 2021 12:00:32 GMT
The actual love interest has though, hasn't he? In Frozen I mean. It is interesting how it varies across cities — if you cast from a representative proportion at my senior school there would be no black actors, but several Asian (both south and east) and quite a few would be Jewish. But an ex of mine from London was one of only about three white boys in his sixth form class, everybody else was black or mixed race (spotting him on his school photograph was very easy ). Where I went to university (Edinburgh) would be different again.
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