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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 19:04:52 GMT
She's playing Fantine in the new Les Mis at the Gielgud.
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Post by indis on Feb 5, 2019 19:06:09 GMT
SD will be fun again, only a door further away
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Post by missthelma on Feb 5, 2019 19:43:57 GMT
Hmmm, seems I've not explained myself very well as is my habit, damn you internet! Mind you a (not)subtle insinuation of insincerity seems beyond the pale!
I've never seen CHF in a show so don't know her credits from a programme bio, thanks to those who took time to fill me in, am still baffled a little at her 'reach'. Kathryn above makes a good point about musical theatre stardom and in this case up to Heathers there doesn't appear to be a break out or stand out role in her CV and I sense her popularity and fan base were already well established then. I've honestly never seen a book of hers for sale anywhere, and I'm a book shop haunter, or mentioned/plugged by others and yet through Twitter I know about for example Andrew Keenan Bolger's book, maybe it's just down to the people I follow? Who knows.
As for the YouTube channel/videos, again she was not on my radar from that point of view and whilst there are known names out there like Zoella and James Charles, who seem to get on mainstream sites like the BBC, again CHF hasn't come to my notice that way. Would she bring Birmingham to a standstill as the latter allegedly did? (I think there was a story on the BBC site by CHF around Christmas time about body shaming or weight perhaps?)I like to think I have an intelluctual curiosity about people and tend to seek out information on names unfamiliar to me but again you look CHF up on CastAlbums and she has one credit, on IMDB she has 3 credits. So the attention seems disproportionate. Not, of course that those sites are the arbiters of success.
None of this is to disparage her or her talent which may be immense, I just find the attention she gets or seems to get unusual. Especially as so much seems to be negative thoughts and attitudes to her.
And yes, Ryan, Google is my friend, although other search engines are available of course. It was so thoughtful of you to point that out four days after my original post in such a non supercilious fashion. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 19:48:49 GMT
Les Mis interim, all-star, cast? And we have a winner!
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Post by longinthetooth on Feb 5, 2019 21:04:04 GMT
I was at the stage door of Les Mis when she was Eponine (I was waiting for someone else). Precisely two people were waiting to see her - although to be fair it was a weekday matinee and her fans were probably all at school!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 21:07:19 GMT
I stagedoored for Rob Houchen and I don't remember any craziness around her tbh. Maybe it was too early in her run and she wasn't that popular then? Idk. That was the Summer of 2013.
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Post by indis on Feb 5, 2019 21:09:16 GMT
i stagedoored at the time too, mostly for Anton Zetterholm, and everytime there were at least 20 girls, and all wanted to tell Carrie their whole life story and all their problems , also got shoved around while Carrie tried to get a break and get something to eat but the swarm followed her
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Post by carmella1 on Feb 5, 2019 21:45:49 GMT
I expect they will be announcing Rob Houchen shortly as Marius. Enjorlas any ideas? Or was that why Ramin and Ben Forster were there. Oh and Cossett. I really would have thought her more the grown up Cossett than Fantine cannot quite picture her doing a death scene and looking frail. Too bubbly. And yes I know an actor's job is to act but still cannot see it. But a mad if diverse Stage Door.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 6, 2019 12:24:36 GMT
Hmmm, seems I've not explained myself very well as is my habit, damn you internet! Mind you a (not)subtle insinuation of insincerity seems beyond the pale! I've never seen CHF in a show so don't know her credits from a programme bio, thanks to those who took time to fill me in, am still baffled a little at her 'reach'. Kathryn above makes a good point about musical theatre stardom and in this case up to Heathers there doesn't appear to be a break out or stand out role in her CV and I sense her popularity and fan base were already well established then. I've honestly never seen a book of hers for sale anywhere, and I'm a book shop haunter, or mentioned/plugged by others and yet through Twitter I know about for example Andrew Keenan Bolger's book, maybe it's just down to the people I follow? Who knows. As for the YouTube channel/videos, again she was not on my radar from that point of view and whilst there are known names out there like Zoella and James Charles, who seem to get on mainstream sites like the BBC, again CHF hasn't come to my notice that way. Would she bring Birmingham to a standstill as the latter allegedly did? (I think there was a story on the BBC site by CHF around Christmas time about body shaming or weight perhaps?)I like to think I have an intelluctual curiosity about people and tend to seek out information on names unfamiliar to me but again you look CHF up on CastAlbums and she has one credit, on IMDB she has 3 credits. So the attention seems disproportionate. Not, of course that those sites are the arbiters of success. None of this is to disparage her or her talent which may be immense, I just find the attention she gets or seems to get unusual. Especially as so much seems to be negative thoughts and attitudes to her. And yes, Ryan, Google is my friend, although other search engines are available of course. It was so thoughtful of you to point that out four days after my original post in such a non supercilious fashion. Thank you. I think she uses her social media presence very effectively across multiple platforms to build “hype” around her books, her shows, concerts, vlogs etc. So whilst she might not be hugely well known outside of that fan base, the people she has following her are highly engaged and will pretty much consume anything she puts out. She’s very clever, but she has to perpetually feed the monster to keep it all going. And that means she has to give a lot of herself to the fans, who are always greedy for more more more, which then becomes the topic for more and more output. If she’s really any good then the time will presumably come when she doesn’t have to do this any more. But the two performances I saw (Addams Family and Heathers) were proficient but not outstanding. I think she’s overrated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 15:06:32 GMT
If Carrie goes back into Les Mis I would have thought Cosette would be a more natural part for her now. Eponine was almost a waif like character and Carrie's build now and with her long curly hair would be more suited to a pretty Cosette IMO.
CHF has built up her social media following but sadly the monster has got out of control. Without it she would have been having a pretty successful musical theatre career if you look at her resume. She has probably done well financially from her books but it has come with the price of losing a lot of her anonymity.
Her fanbase may help her get roles as producers will know that if only a certain percentage turn up they are guaranteed ticket sales but might it mean she may not get certain more sort after roles in the future as she is seen as a social media star and not considered as a West End leading lady.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 15:37:01 GMT
Does she have the vocals for Cosette? It's a very different vocal range.
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Post by robertb213 on Feb 6, 2019 18:47:18 GMT
Carrie has said herself in comments on Instagram that she wouldn't be right for Cosette.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 19:15:49 GMT
That's what I thought. But hey, all you need is long curly hair lol!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 19:52:36 GMT
I stagedoored for Rob Houchen and I don't remember any craziness around her tbh. Maybe it was too early in her run and she wasn't that popular then? Idk. That was the Summer of 2013. I remember seeing Les Mis in 2014, and Carrie must have had a last minute emergency/illness. Her understudy was announced just before the show, and the girl next to me immediately burst into tears, and sobbed all the way through the Prologue (and then again at the interval when her mum reminded her she wouldn't get to hear Carrie sing On My Own).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2019 19:56:16 GMT
I stagedoored for Rob Houchen and I don't remember any craziness around her tbh. Maybe it was too early in her run and she wasn't that popular then? Idk. That was the Summer of 2013. I remember seeing Les Mis in 2014, and Carrie must have had a last minute emergency/illness. Her understudy was announced just before the show, and the girl next to me immediately burst into tears, and sobbed all the way through the Prologue ( and then again at the interval when her mum reminded her she wouldn't get to hear Carrie sing On My Own). Mwahahahahah that's an evil mother! Huge fan.
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Post by andrew on Feb 6, 2019 23:26:40 GMT
Not gonna lie, this video is kinda cute, especially the audition part. Her journey with this show is interesting and I think she'll be a good Fantine even though she feels a little young.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:18:34 GMT
Ruthie Henshall was 25 when she first played Fantine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:23:56 GMT
Celinde who Carrie was in Les Mis with would have been 26/27 when she started too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:36:49 GMT
Also Fantine wouldn't have been that old. They cast her older than Cosette and Eponine because I'm pretty sure those two characters are actual teenagers at the time that their action goes down, but going by the appearance of the young Cosettes on stage, Fantine dies when her daughter is around 8 years old, and given that Cosette's father is a student, it's not unreasonable to assume Fantine would have been in the 16-19 age bracket when she gave birth, so would probably be a maximum of 28 at her time of death.
Okay, yeah, so Carrie is only 26 and can play a lot younger thanks to her features, but that doesn't stop her being age appropriate for Fantine.
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Post by kathryn on Feb 7, 2019 9:49:38 GMT
To be fair, feels a little young isn't the same as is a little young. It's about performance rather than actual chronological age.
But hey, maybe as Fantine her performance will feel more mature than it has previously. Actor, after all....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 9:51:56 GMT
Also as it's a concert version, and we don't know how 'staged' it'll be, and given the ahem perhaps limited acting of some of the others, maybe just singing it pretty (which we know she can do) is enough anyway?
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Post by MrsCondomine on Feb 25, 2019 11:27:35 GMT
Her glasses upset me.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 16, 2019 12:14:41 GMT
If Carrie is off to Broadway I hope she’s going to do some training or something. The last minute of this where she starts to belt sounds really uncomfortable to me. I'm no singing expert but I’ve heard people use the term ‘unsupported’ and this is what I imagine that to mean. I commented after seeing Heathers that she sounded like she was straining and everything seems to come from the back of her throat. Same here.
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Post by mtlive on Jul 26, 2019 12:34:16 GMT
Look at you all, you’re trying to knock her down. It’s clear you’re just jealous. She works so hard at what she does! I’ve been training for years and I wish I could be like her! Before trying to knock down an incredibly talented performer ask yourself “what would I do if someone said that” and “can I do it anywhere near as well”
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 15:26:44 GMT
Look at you all, you’re trying to knock her down. It’s clear you’re just jealous. She works so hard at what she does! I’ve been training for years and I wish I could be like her! Before trying to knock down an incredibly talented performer ask yourself “what would I do if someone said that” and “can I do it anywhere near as well” A lot of people on here appreciate CHFs talent and were aware of her ability before she started blogging or writing books. I wasn't even aware she was related to Tom Fletcher until a couple of years ago. CHFs' ability is judged fairly on here, any knocks about her would only be how she may come across to certain people, not about her singing ability, her appearance etc.
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Post by danb on Jul 26, 2019 16:00:50 GMT
If anyone could be bothered reading this thread from the beginning it is quiet clear how much of it is attributed to her undoubted vocal talent and peoples enjoyment of it.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Jul 26, 2019 16:49:44 GMT
Look at you all, you’re trying to knock her down. It’s clear you’re just jealous. She works so hard at what she does! I’ve been training for years and I wish I could be like her! Before trying to knock down an incredibly talented performer ask yourself “what would I do if someone said that” and “can I do it anywhere near as well” Welcome to TheatreBoard. For those of us who work in the ‘real world’, being assessed on our performance at work is standard procedure. Being told “that went well, great job” or “you could have improved on that by doing x, y or z differently” is normal. We swallow it and try to do better. Carrie works in the performing arts where criticism is a normal and fundamental part of the job. As you’ve been training for years you must know that? We have rules here about what is and isn’t allowed when it comes to criticism of performers. Defend your favourites all you like, by all means passionately stick up for Carrie in everything she does. But if you’re going to enjoy your time here you have to accept that you’re going to read negative stuff about performers you may like.
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Post by shady23 on Oct 13, 2019 14:59:25 GMT
New video. Carrie has "reset my boundaries"
Quite right too. I can't imagine how she has coped with this chaos for so long
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Post by duncan on Oct 13, 2019 15:50:03 GMT
Popped into FOPP on my way to the Lyceum on Thursday night and they had her book on sale included in the 2 for £5 offer.
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Post by alicechallice on Oct 16, 2019 7:02:46 GMT
Popped into FOPP on my way to the Lyceum on Thursday night and they had her book on sale included in the 2 for £5 offer. She'll be DEVASTATED!! I once told the husband of a writer I know that I'd finally got a copy of his book in a 2 for 50p sale in the small charity warehouse at my local "tip". I was promptly told that said author wouldn't need to be privy to that info, might have "tipped" him over the edge, apparently. Such egos!
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