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Post by theatrehound on Mar 6, 2017 12:24:38 GMT
Can't believe there's nothing for Lazarus..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:24:45 GMT
Totally bizarre that all "The Girls" got nominated together. Same for the "Ladies of perpetual succour". Agreed. Guys, just bring back the Best Company Performance award, no one will hate you for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:27:42 GMT
Glad Show Boat and Rebecca Trehearn got a look in. That was the best musical of the year.
Not wholly surprised by the nominations, but can we please get rid of that ridiculous Music award?! Dreamgirls is nominated for what exactly?
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Post by Mark on Mar 6, 2017 12:28:00 GMT
Totally bizarre that all "The Girls" got nominated together. Same for the "Ladies of perpetual succour". Agreed. Guys, just bring back the Best Ensemble award, no one will hate you for it. Exactly. Its a "Best Actress" award... and this says they couldn't pinpoint a best actress. When in reality both Joanna Riding and Claire Moore could have been nominated for Best Actress and Claire Machin and Sophie Dann as supporting.
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Post by viserys on Mar 6, 2017 12:29:04 GMT
I didn't know there was such a thing as a Best Ensemble Award - in this case, yea, bring that back.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:30:02 GMT
I didn't know there was such a thing as a Best Ensemble Award - in this case, yea, bring that back. They only did it in 2009, but considering they've nominated two whole companies this year, you'd think they'd have the nous to think "wait, maybe we can justify bringing this one back...". www.olivierawards.com/winners/view/item106339/olivier-winners-2009/
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 6, 2017 12:31:25 GMT
^ Agree with that, throwback to the old days when the whole chorus got nominated for Jerry Springer: The Opera and people ask why they find these awards laughable, the nominating committee are a joke.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:33:23 GMT
I am actually really confused and angry about these nominations.
The good: Charlie Stemp, Emma Williams, Victoria Hamilton-Barratt!!!!!, Sheridan Smith and all the love for Dreamgirls. And Andrew Langtree was a pleasent surprise too!
The bullsh*t: Half a Sixpence was robbed for Choreography and Revival. I don't care hwo you look at it, there is no way it didn't deserve those nominations. Even if it didn't get Revival, I woulda been happy with Choreography.
Also, no Genie? That is a major surprise!
I haven't seen it so I cant judge, but I don't agree at all The Girls should be nominated as a collective. Its not right, its not fair. But its fine, they won't win anyway.
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Post by Phantom of London on Mar 6, 2017 12:34:25 GMT
Anyone got a complete list please?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:35:11 GMT
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Post by CG on the loose on Mar 6, 2017 12:37:16 GMT
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Post by sophie92 on Mar 6, 2017 12:46:00 GMT
Baffled by The Girls being nominated collectively. Maybe if they'd thrown it in under Best Supporting, but you really can't class all those roles as leading.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:47:45 GMT
One thing I will say though is, forgetting how much I wanna punch half these Olivier voters, that is one hell of a Supporting Actress in a Musical catagory! I haven't seen Haydn Gwynne, but VHB, Emma and Rebecca were all brilliant! But I actually would not be at all surprised if VHB actually took it home! She got stellar reviews and was incredibly memorable in that role! I didn't know the Arts Theatre was eligable so to see her was a massive plus for me, espeically after most of the other catagories.
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Post by viserys on Mar 6, 2017 12:48:37 GMT
I didn't know there was such a thing as a Best Ensemble Award - in this case, yea, bring that back. They only did it in 2009, but considering they've nominated two whole companies this year, you'd think they'd have the nous to think "wait, maybe we can justify bringing this one back...". www.olivierawards.com/winners/view/item106339/olivier-winners-2009/Ah, yea, that makes perfect sense. Could have added the kiddies from School of Rock to that category, too...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 12:53:12 GMT
Disappointed Sixpence didn't get Choreography. But glad Hogget got a nomination for some truly stellar work in Cursed Child.
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Post by stevej678 on Mar 6, 2017 12:56:58 GMT
Completely agree that Half a Sixpence has been robbed.
It also seems rather bizarre that Our Ladies of Perpetual Succour is up for best comedy and not best play. Really? With that and the ensemble nominations (suggesting all The Girls are leading performances and all Our Ladies are supporting roles), it seems like they're making it up as they go along.
At least Groundhog Day has got the recognition it deserved.
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Post by wickedgrin on Mar 6, 2017 12:57:18 GMT
Ah, yea, that makes perfect sense. Could have added the kiddies from School of Rock to that category, too... All 39 of them? Or however many there are in 3 teams? I used to follow award ceremonies avidly but there seems to be so many of them now their value is undermined. It must be nice for the performers to be able to put on their CV's "Olivier nominated" etc. but I don't think awards in the UK have any effect on the box office. Folk either want to see a show or they don't. Having "8 Olivier Nominations" means nothing to the general public. It has been a strong year for theatre and certainly many people have not been nominated and there is some strong competition between those that have. It is all very subjective.....
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Post by cheesy116 on Mar 6, 2017 12:58:37 GMT
My biggest shock is Trevor D Nicholas not getting nominated for The Genie
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Post by viserys on Mar 6, 2017 13:00:42 GMT
Ah, yea, that makes perfect sense. Could have added the kiddies from School of Rock to that category, too... All 39 of them? Or however many there are in 3 teams? I wouldn't mind I thought the tiny girl who was hardly taller than the bass guitar she was rocking and the boy on the guitar were fantastic in what they did and would like to see them rewarded for the hard work that must have gone into rehearsing this show. But I wouldn't single out two from a larger group as the show really only works as a collective.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 13:01:44 GMT
My main gripe is of course Sixpence. I honestly think that the Choregoraphy was stronger for Sixpence than Groundhog Day. And I haven't seen the other two, but I hafe a sense it is a bit shady to put Red Shoes in Choreography than Dance Production.
Also, why were there only four contenders for the acting catagories when there were five last year? There were several who were robbed there!
Sorry to rant, but I am just peeved, so much good stuff was robbed.
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Post by sophie92 on Mar 6, 2017 13:05:10 GMT
Mmm, the drop back down to 4 nominees is a bit odd, especially with just how much was eligible this year.
I've not actually seen Half a Sixpence, but I thought Andrew Wright was going to be a lock for one of the choreography slots.
So many surprises in both inclusions and omissions this year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 13:11:08 GMT
And also under the radar happy Gary Barlow wasn't nominated. Put The Girls in the forefront, not him!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 13:11:38 GMT
Zero nominations for the Royal Court.
So, let us not forget
Best Actor in a Supporting Role Jonjo O'Neill for Unreachable at Royal Court - Jerwood Theatre Downstairs
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Post by rumbledoll on Mar 6, 2017 13:22:39 GMT
Jonjo O'Neill should have been nominated! Anyway, I think it's just another envelope mixup, would explain a lot.. )
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2017 13:24:23 GMT
Jonjo O'Neill should have been nominated! Anyway, I think it's just another envelope mixup, would explain a lot.. ) Would certainly explain the Choreography category...
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