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Post by londonpostie on Mar 20, 2023 13:54:27 GMT
I think so. Possibly not so high but maybe.
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Post by Being Alive on Mar 20, 2023 13:55:07 GMT
Not so high but similar vibe to the Bridge.
Dreadfully designed Front of House though, I hope they never have to evacuate!
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 20, 2023 18:45:06 GMT
I'm a little disappointed that this lead casting is made up of two straight actors. I'm not in the school of thought that every single gay role has to be played by a gay person, but this is a complicated tale of sexuality which literally talks about the dangers of a society where gay men were/are forced to 'play straight'. I'm surprised more thought wasn't put into this decision.
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Post by theatrefan62 on Mar 20, 2023 18:49:46 GMT
Two straight actors played the roles on film, and were outstanding. To be honest for me some of the best and most relatable gay performances have been played by straight actors.
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Post by partytentdown on Mar 20, 2023 18:52:00 GMT
Two straight actors played the roles on film, and were outstanding. To be honest for me some of the best and most relatable gay performances have been played by straight actors. I agree that the film performances were excellent, but the film was made nearly 20 years ago. The way we think about these things has changed. Like I said, this is my opinion and I don't think it should be a hard and fast rule for everything, but I was surprised at least one of the roles wasn't being played by someone who isn't straight.
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Post by oxfordsimon on Mar 20, 2023 19:06:11 GMT
Lucas Hedges
"In the early stages of my life, some of the people I was most infatuated with were my closest male friends. That was the case through high school, and I think I was always aware of that, while for the most part I was attracted to women," also adding that he exists "on that spectrum: Not totally straight, but also not gay and not necessarily bisexual." He later spoke about being an ally to the LGBTQ community and said that he considered his sexuality to be a "fluid experience."
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 20, 2023 21:28:55 GMT
One of the tings that I loved about the film was the female characters -Anne Hathaway getting blonder and blonder- especially Linda Cardellini playing Cassie, playing Ennis Del Mar's adult daughter and trying to understand her father.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 22:15:15 GMT
I'm a little disappointed that this lead casting is made up of two straight actors. I'm not in the school of thought that every single gay role has to be played by a gay person, but this is a complicated tale of sexuality which literally talks about the dangers of a society where gay men were/are forced to 'play straight'. I'm surprised more thought wasn't put into this decision.
I think these two actors are likely to give incredible performances.
Besides, maybe significant thought was put into this decision. Do we definitively know that out actors weren't considered?
And as others noted, Hedges does not identify as purely straight and questions about Faist certainly have been raised before.
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Post by karloscar on Mar 20, 2023 22:38:39 GMT
Mike Faist and Ansel Elgort made a lovely couple in West Side Story. Shame that Maria dame got in the way.
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Post by mrbarnaby on Mar 20, 2023 23:30:20 GMT
So bored of the gay/straight conversation.
Just let them act. Who cares as long as they are good.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 0:04:07 GMT
They are having quite the debate about the casting over on BroadwayWorld.
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Post by intoanewlife on Mar 21, 2023 0:10:43 GMT
They are having quite the debate about the casting over on BroadwayWorld. Now there's a surprise... The sexuality of the actors involved is no-one's buisness.
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Post by Mark on Mar 21, 2023 9:47:28 GMT
It only ever seems to be an issue for people when straight actors are cast gay. Never an issue when it’s the other way around (we’d have very few leading men if that was the case).
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Mar 21, 2023 10:33:07 GMT
I don't think there should be an issue with straight people playing gay roles and vice versa, but when a pretty large number of gay roles are nominated for Oscars and all but like 2 have been played by ostensibly straight people, that suggests there's clearly some disparity here in which straight actors are rewarded for being brave enough to play gay but gay actors aren't afforded those same opportunities.
There are plenty of stories of gay actors having to play down their sexuality and hide that reality from the public for fear of it hurting their careers as they get fewer roles - they no longer get cast in straight roles because they're perceived as being unable to, and clearly the gay roles (or at least the awards-worthy ones anyway) aren't going to many gay actors. Now I think this is much more of an issue in the film industry, likely because of just how many more gay people there are in theatre, but that doesn't mean this bias doesn't still exist in theatre, just perhaps to a lesser extent. I have also said gay people in general but I think if we're being real most of the time we're taking about gay men in these situations, but maybe that's just because gay women kind of always seem to get left out of queer conversations anyway, but that's a whole other discussion. This is also kind of a problem with no easy solution because ultimately you can't know everyone's sexuality, nor would it be right to require everyone to be out in order to ensure you're getting equitable representation, but that doesn't mean there's no observable disparity in who we give these roles to and who gets celebrated the most when they play them.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Mar 30, 2023 11:38:31 GMT
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Post by teamyali on Mar 30, 2023 12:53:49 GMT
Rehearsals just started today! http://instagram.com/p/CqabgGHI1d5 (I also want to see like a crossover photo of Lucas and Mike with Sophie and Ben who will be concluding Medea next month!)
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Post by intoanewlife on Mar 30, 2023 15:10:12 GMT
I don't think there should be an issue with straight people playing gay roles and vice versa, but when a pretty large number of gay roles are nominated for Oscars and all but like 2 have been played by ostensibly straight people, that suggests there's clearly some disparity here in which straight actors are rewarded for being brave enough to play gay but gay actors aren't afforded those same opportunities. There are plenty of stories of gay actors having to play down their sexuality and hide that reality from the public for fear of it hurting their careers as they get fewer roles - they no longer get cast in straight roles because they're perceived as being unable to, and clearly the gay roles (or at least the awards-worthy ones anyway) aren't going to many gay actors. Now I think this is much more of an issue in the film industry, likely because of just how many more gay people there are in theatre, but that doesn't mean this bias doesn't still exist in theatre, just perhaps to a lesser extent. I have also said gay people in general but I think if we're being real most of the time we're taking about gay men in these situations, but maybe that's just because gay women kind of always seem to get left out of queer conversations anyway, but that's a whole other discussion. This is also kind of a problem with no easy solution because ultimately you can't know everyone's sexuality, nor would it be right to require everyone to be out in order to ensure you're getting equitable representation, but that doesn't mean there's no observable disparity in who we give these roles to and who gets celebrated the most when they play them. As far as I know Anthony Hopkins didn't have to actually eat anyone to be cast as Hannibal Lector... As the facts stand, there is no way either Philadelphia or Brokeback Mountain would've had the same success and major cultural impact they had if they'd starred some random gay actor no one had ever heard of. Tom Hanks and Heath Ledger were both at the peak of their fame and made those 2 films what they were, like it or not. They didn't just get Oscars because they played gay men, they got Oscars because they both gave fantastic performances. Sometimes it is far more beneficial to cast for the most impact than for other reasons. Most of these actors that have stories were all told by their managers or agents not to come out and anyone who has ever had the displeasure of working with either will tell you that for the most part they are not only a nightmare to deal with but are also a lot of the time full of sh*t. I don't think I have ever heard of anyone say that an actual studio ever rejected them for being gay and if they aren't 'names' they would have to audition for the role anyways. If a gay actor can't pull off 'straight' for a part, then of course they won't and shouldn't get the role and vice versa. I would also say (as witnessed in the recent George Michael documentary) that it is the media and the gossip hungry public who are far more to blame for the rampant homophobia of the past than anyone in the actual industries themselves. Anyways this is a long time ago and things are certainly much better now. But why do people like Evan Peters get to play gay all the time when he is straight, when Ryan Murphy has a whole stable of gay actors to chose from? If one of the most powerful gays in Hollywood gets away with it, why can't others? I think the bigger question here is are these 2 actors even big enough to warrant being cast over other British/gay actors and for me that answer would be a resounding no.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2023 13:16:47 GMT
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Post by sam22 on Apr 17, 2023 11:18:58 GMT
I wasn't particularly interested in this but realised this morning that given I haven't been to @sohoplace I can no longer say I've been to every West End theatre. That's a good enough reason to book for this right?!
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Post by mkb on Apr 17, 2023 11:28:54 GMT
Please can we just cast actors who can most convincingly portray a character?
I don't care what those actors do in bed, and I certainly don't want closeted actors to be forced to come out in order to be able to take gay roles. Just allow actors to act.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2023 21:24:49 GMT
I don't care what those actors do in bed, Might we also stop reducing sexual orientation to sexual activity? There is a bit more to it than my sexual partners.
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Post by mkb on Apr 18, 2023 1:11:35 GMT
I don't care what those actors do in bed, Might we also stop reducing sexual orientation to sexual activity? There is a bit more to it than my sexual partners. What is one's sexual orientation if it's not the sexual thoughts going on in your head and how that manifests itself in terms of sexual activity? I know that the innate non-sexual facets of my thoughts and behaviour have bugger all to do with my being gay, although obviously my learned responses to situations may stem from how I have been treated because of my sexuality. But no matter. Our not having common ground on that view deflects from the point I was trying to make in my previous post, so let me clarify that my meaning, as I'm sure you realised, was "I don't care what the sexual orientation is of those actors."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2023 1:24:20 GMT
Might we also stop reducing sexual orientation to sexual activity? There is a bit more to it than my sexual partners. What is one's sexual orientation if it's not the sexual thoughts going on in your head and how that manifests itself in terms of sexual activity? I know that the innate non-sexual facets of my thoughts and behaviour have bugger all to do with my being gay, although obviously my learned responses to situations may stem from how I have been treated because of my sexuality. But no matter. Our not having common ground on that view deflects from the point I was trying to make in my previous post, so let me clarify that my meaning, as I'm sure you realised, was "I don't care what the sexual orientation is of those actors."
I did get your point about casting which is why I did not feel a need to respond to it and instead focused on language usage that many have used to reduce GLBTQ+ identity to nothing but sexual activity and to treat us as some perversion. While that surely was not your intent, it doesn't help if we parrot language from those for whom it has been and continues to be. Obviously you'll speak in the future however you wish to.
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Post by anthony40 on Apr 18, 2023 8:28:21 GMT
Regardless of the sexual orientation if the actors, I think they're very brave.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Apr 18, 2023 8:46:03 GMT
Brave?
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Post by james1969 on Apr 25, 2023 11:15:36 GMT
Does anyone know if there will be Day seats for this ?
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Post by Being Alive on Apr 25, 2023 11:28:22 GMT
Does anyone know if there will be Day seats for this ? There were for both As You Like It and Medea so I'd assume so. They usually announce the day before previews begin.
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Post by anthony40 on Apr 25, 2023 11:48:30 GMT
Advertising for this on social media is starting to ramp up
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Post by zahidf on May 4, 2023 4:50:07 GMT
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Post by FrontroverPaul on May 5, 2023 2:03:23 GMT
Isn't there a contradiction between the "Book Now" invitation in that tweet and the £25 day seats being "available in person ... on the day of the performance ?
The link just leads to the standard booking page.
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