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Post by Oleanna on Dec 23, 2017 2:39:38 GMT
I think, as punishment, they should return to the NT and be made to rehearse the mirror number.
A 5-6-7-8...
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Post by sherriebythesea on Dec 23, 2017 4:24:22 GMT
Admittedly I'm not in UK but weren't they trespassing?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 10:13:24 GMT
I have watched a lot of those mildly similar urban exploration videos, where people explore areas of interest (usually by climbing their way in) the public are not allowed into. I find them entertaining and often revealing, albeit it’s something I’d never do. I’d be hypocritical if I therefore criticised this. It’s illegal, it’s a bit morally wrong, but it’s not the end of the world. Certainly there’s a lot of appetite for this sort of thing. As a side note, I’d love it if the NT did an extreme backstage tour. It’s nice the one they have, but I want to go everywhere, I want to see everything. It should be 3 hours long. You should have to climb up ladders and get to spin inside the drum revolve. I have to confess that I would absolutely love to do what those pranksters did. I imagine theatres at night to be quite eerie places, but imagine what fun they had ascending and descending the Follies staircase. And the costumes - not that any would fit me!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 15:51:44 GMT
I have to confess that I would absolutely love to do what those pranksters did. I wish more theatres would do backstage tours that went into details of how the show operated instead of the sort that is mostly about the history of the theatre. I love seeing how things are put together. It's little things like a string of LED lights down a flight of stairs to illuminate the steps without lighting up the entire area that fascinate me.
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 23, 2017 16:46:09 GMT
Now THAT is what I call a backstage tour of the NT.
I found the backstage tour of the NT very disappointing in that it was restricted to the workshops and sitting in the circle of the Olivier! That was it. Nothing "backstage" at all!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2017 20:04:11 GMT
Now THAT is what I call a backstage tour of the NT. I found the backstage tour of the NT very disappointing in that it was restricted to the workshops and sitting in the circle of the Olivier! That was it. Nothing "backstage" at all! I think (as with all such things) it varies depending on what's going on in the building? I've been on stage in the Lyttleton certainly with a backstage tour. I personally loved it every time I've done it, but obviously it depends on the guide/day of the week. On the subject of NT security, it's such a big building it can be a bit 'hit and miss' and while there's a fairly standard signing in process, and giving out of security passes, there's also a LOT of unattended doors in that building, because it's impossible to 'man' them all- so for example while I was studiously 'signed in' and given a security pass during the tech rehearsals of Angels I sat in on equally I walked in and out of the Lyttleton for loo/coffee breaks unstopped- granted had I been I had appropriate passes etc, but obviously on a performance day (and we're talking late into the night here post-performance) there's much coming and going to contend with. It's a tough one- nobody wants the building back in 'lock down' again but equally, nobody wants an accident to either building or people.
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 24, 2017 1:38:48 GMT
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Post by hal9000 on Dec 24, 2017 2:41:57 GMT
Not gonna lie - I'd be trying on the costumes.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2017 20:07:28 GMT
One of the recent crazes has been for mainly teenage lads to try and climb a lot of landmark's undetected or even cranes on building sites. Lots of videos exist online and they have done Wembley, Twickenham so a theatre fly tower would obviously appeal to them.
Often they will vault a fence or get onto a low roof to try and gain access and I think they have a code of not to steal etc. But it is a dangerous and stupid hobby if they choose wrong building as they could fall or even get shot at if it was a Embassy or a Government/Royal Household building.
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Post by WireHangers on Dec 28, 2017 22:35:46 GMT
We can talk about how dodgy the NT's security is but a very similar prankster did the same thing in the White House and got away with it.
He went in during the day and stayed there until the place closed down and he managed to walk around and eventually walk out without being caught.
My point is these people will manage to get in anywhere they want if they want to.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 22:48:13 GMT
We can talk about how dodgy the NT's security is but a very similar prankster did the same thing in the White House and got away with it. He went in during the day and stayed there until the place closed down and he managed to walk around and eventually walk out without being caught. My point is these people will manage to get in anywhere they want if they want to. Yes, but he's the President. Plus he's going to keep on doing it unless the Russia investigation stops him.
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Post by shady23 on Dec 29, 2017 1:03:34 GMT
These guys make their living by getting into places at night and making videos. I've been bored at Christmas and I have a young nephew into these things (you tube, not breaking and entering) and these guys were the same ones who ended up on the roof of the Manchester City stadium and also climbed up the roller coaster at Blackpool Pleasure Beach, among many other things.
The most worrying thing was they were approached inside the NT by a security man but it seems wearing high vis and saying a story to them lets you get away with anything. Crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2017 1:39:46 GMT
One of the recent crazes has been for mainly teenage lads to try and climb a lot of landmark's undetected or even cranes on building sites. Lots of videos exist online and they have done Wembley, Twickenham so a theatre fly tower would obviously appeal to them. Often they will vault a fence or get onto a low roof to try and gain access and I think they have a code of not to steal etc. But it is a dangerous and stupid hobby if they choose wrong building as they could fall or even get shot at if it was a Embassy or a Government/Royal Household building. Why need they worry If They fall And break their necks They are taken free of Charge to hospital
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 29, 2017 8:42:23 GMT
These guys make their living by getting into places at night and making videos. I've been bored at Christmas and I have a young nephew into these things (you tube, not breaking and entering) and these guys were the same ones who ended up on the roof of the Manchester City stadium and also climbed up the roller coaster at Blackpool Pleasure Beach, among many other things. The most worrying thing was they were approached inside the NT by a security man but it seems wearing high vis and saying a story to them lets you get away with anything. Crazy. I think the key to these stunts though is that there’s no breaking involved. They’re walking through unlocked doors or jumping fences, in other words breaching security and trespassing but not actually breaking in which no doubt puts a different spin on it legally.
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 30, 2017 21:25:06 GMT
I think the key to these stunts though is that there’s no breaking involved. They’re walking through unlocked doors or jumping fences, in other words breaching security and trespassing but not actually breaking in which no doubt puts a different spin on it legally. Entering but not breaking.....where have I heard that before?
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Post by Sotongal on Dec 30, 2017 22:48:57 GMT
I'm not surprised the NT security is so poor.
We've twice parked in the NT's underground carpark and both times had satnavs stolen from the car (hidden in the glove compartment, so not on view).
The first time the NT fobbed us off with 'it's not run by us, so not our responsilbilty'. The second time they said security had reviewed the CCTV mages and seen no one near the car.
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Post by Phantom of London on Dec 30, 2017 23:42:25 GMT
Just as well they were forced to check in their rucksack beforehand!!!
Trespassing isn’t actually an offence, as long as you don’t cause criminal damage, all what the landowner can do is ask you to leave and you can leave it by whatever exit you won’t. If it was illegal, then fox hunting would be impossible.
Wat he’d the video and I’m not good with Heights, but a security guard actually approached the pair on the Olivier stage and did absolutely nothing, that man will lose his job, because of that incident, unfortunately it’s deserved, but ruined his Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2017 3:37:25 GMT
I'd say there is a difference between walking in through an open door to climbing a fence/wall to get into somewhere. I once saw someone leave a concert via a firedoor and as it was open some people walked in and saw a free concert, I'd say that is different to climbing a security fence to get into say Glastonbury or a Government Building.
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