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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 16:05:55 GMT
As much as I applaud their determination to give the audience a show, I think we can all agree that the only way to have truly compensated the ticket holders was to have received a lap dance and an inappropriate grope from Andy Karl. I'd have demanded nothing less. Not only this, I believe top price seats should come with at least the lapdance. You gotta pay extra for the grope. |
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 19, 2017 16:16:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 18:40:36 GMT
So the track list for the album has been released (and is now available to pre-order)...
1 Overture
2 There Will be Sun
3 Day One
4 Day Two
5 Day Three
6 Stuck
7 Nobody Cares
8 Philandering
9 One Day
10 Entr'acte
11 Playing Nancy
12 Hope
13 Everything About You
14 If I Had My Time Again
15 Everything About You (Reprise)
16 Philosopher
17 Night Will Come
18 Philanthropy
19 Seeing You
Just trying to work out what Philandering, Philosopher and Philanthropy are (clever names though!). From my memory of the London production... I'm guessing Philandering is the segment around him getting Nancy to sleep with him, Philosopher is him learning the piano/helping the homeless man and Philanthropy is the tap number/dinner-dance? Am I right here?
So excited for this album, but can't decide to pre-order on iTunes or wait (and pay a bit more for postage etc) for a physical CD!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 10:48:48 GMT
Oh excellent! I was slightly afraid that the Broadway side of things might try putting their foot down over Playing Nancy, I would have very much missed it if they had.
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Post by stuartmcd on Mar 20, 2017 12:43:10 GMT
Oh excellent! I was slightly afraid that the Broadway side of things might try putting their foot down over Playing Nancy, I would have very much missed it if they had. One complaint I have seen a lot from people who have seen it on Broadway is that they don't think Playing Nancy works and that it should be cut. It was always a divisive song but it would be a shame to lose it |
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Post by kathryn on Mar 20, 2017 13:25:28 GMT
I really hope they don't cut it. It's so audacious to open the second act with a song that challenges the audience to think about the story being told beyond its obvious plot.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 20, 2017 15:17:22 GMT
People here said the exact same thing about Playing Nancy.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 20, 2017 15:17:50 GMT
..when it was playing in London, that is.
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Post by Steffi on Mar 20, 2017 15:48:06 GMT
Playing Nancy was the one song I couldn't warm to in the show. It's a nice song but for me it just didn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 15:53:41 GMT
I read a review of the musical (London run) recently that said they thought the townsfolk were fleshed out unnecessarily. It was enough in the film for (say) Ned to be annoying without having to give him a dead wife. But that's what I really loved about the musical. The only character who can possibly have any linear character development is Phil, but by giving songs to other characters and by slowly revealing things about them, we sort of got the feeling of having seen character growth even where we know there isn't any. As Phil comes to know Punxsutawney and its residents, so do we. Much more satisfying than the movie for me. I can see where people who don't like Playing Nancy as a part of the show are coming from, but for me it's one of the things that really elevates the musical from "pretty good" to "hey they've actually THOUGHT about this". Also if they *hadn't* shared out the work the way they did, Andy Karl might not have survived the run, and that would have been a DAMN shame.
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Post by kathryn on Mar 20, 2017 16:20:20 GMT
Exactly. I keep hoping that the people who don't get it the first time will have the penny drop later, because I feel like they've only seen half the show. It's like they're *this close* to getting it....
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Post by londonmzfitz on Mar 20, 2017 17:03:10 GMT
..when it was playing in London, that is. Yes, I said in the London thread I saw people came bouncing back into their seats after the interval and then straight into Playing Nancy, which kinda guilted the audience out for having such a good time at Nancy's expense. A beautiful number, just felt in the wrong place. |
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Post by Steffi on Mar 20, 2017 17:17:50 GMT
I got the idea behind the song and I liked that they were trying to give the side characters more depth. But the song as an act two opener just felt out of place to me, almost like a complete stand alone. It's probably down to me not paying enough attention to the character in act one but I had no emotional connection to Nancy at the start of act two. Which is why her solo did nothing for me in the context of the story (despite it being a lovely song). I'm planning to watch the show again on Broadway in June and I'm hoping the song will work better for me on repeat viewing.  |
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Post by kathryn on Mar 20, 2017 17:33:31 GMT
It's probably down to me not paying enough attention to the character in act one but I had no emotional connection to Nancy at the start of act two. I think that's sort of the point - that we have no emotional connection to her going into the song. Every time I saw it people were laughing at the first couple of lines of the song, because she's kind of a joke figure, and then it gradually moves from being funny into being sincere and truthful and tragic, and hopefully by the end of the song you've connected with her. And then she disappears and becomes part of the background again - which is what the song is about. Only now (hopefully) you're looking out for her in scenes. It's the sort of thing you can do in theatre and not in film, because in film the camera is always directing your gaze whereas a theatre audience can decide where to look. |
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Post by ali973 on Mar 20, 2017 18:34:06 GMT
I think they're trying to establish a theme with "Being Nancy", more or less tying into the "seeing you for the first time", as the finale goes. Though we're more or less familiar with Nancy at this point in Act I, this moment in Act II really makes the audience check themselves, and to reevaluate our own prejudices and assumptions. The reason why people feel a bit off about it is because it makes us reconsider our own judgement on Nancy that we've formed in the earlier act.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 20:32:49 GMT
I really loved that song too, but when applauding I did turn to my friend say "huh?". It felt like a really random Act II opener. I kinda wish they had it somewhere more in context. But that being said, it was beautifully sung and is a beautiful song!
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Post by kathryn on Mar 20, 2017 21:11:05 GMT
I get why it seems random at the time - that's why I think it might click for people later on. Hopefully with a cast recording to listen to people will get that chance.
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Post by ali973 on Mar 21, 2017 9:33:14 GMT
It amazes me that every musical theatre performer in New York isn't already belting out "Playing Nancy" on Youtube. I'd have put money on that being a stand-out hit number. TBH they're by far more original there. There are nightly gigs at 54 Below that are so full of original material, trunk songs, or anything from back catalogs. Versus London performers who are still performing "On My Own" and "The Wizard And I" at every. single. concert. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2017 23:11:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 9:57:50 GMT
Is Rita in a darker coloured coat? Everything else looks basically the same to me except Phil's scarf. I'd be inclined to agree with Monkey and put it down to the overall darkness of the photos.
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Post by dippy on Mar 29, 2017 10:32:41 GMT
Looked online to see some photos of when it was here to compare them and Rita's coat and hoodie colours seem to have been swapped, here she had a blue coat and purple/redish hoodie and on Broadway it's the other way round (also possibly different colour jeans, definitely different shoes, but that's all going a bit far isn't it and being stupidly picky). Phil's definitely a different scarf though!
To me the photos just seem darker, which yes, could either the lighting or the photographs, but the costumes in general seem about the same as over here. Still got the pink and blue blizzard people, the man in the red,...
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Post by charliec on Mar 29, 2017 15:54:45 GMT
Random question for anyone who's been to see it in NYC... What merchandise do they have? My dad in going to be in NYC next week and is willing to pop to the theatre to buy some stuff for me if they'll let him, I just have no idea what they have. Seeing as how we had no London run merch I'd love anything they are selling! I'm guessing they'll have an online store at some point but there isn't one yet.
Thanks for any help!
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Post by 49thand8th on Mar 29, 2017 16:08:56 GMT
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Post by charliec on Mar 29, 2017 16:23:20 GMT
Thank you!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2017 17:34:06 GMT
Maybe it will s just me but the new photons do not seem to look as nice or professional as the old vic. Maybe it is just me being picky. Let's hope it wins a few olivier or even Tony's and we get it back in the west end.
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