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Post by anthony40 on Dec 18, 2016 6:26:54 GMT
Bring Arlene Philips back. Make her head judge. The ratings would go into orbit. It was announced this week that Darcey wou;d become Len's replacement as head judge. The question is, who will replace Darcey?
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Post by danb on Dec 18, 2016 7:07:26 GMT
A very predictable semi final. Totally the wrong two in the dance off. Despite Danny being far and away the best dancer this series ( or ever? ) I predict he WONT win!! You heard it here first. such a shame! There you go... I was right! A total travesty! No, the travesty would be having a trained performer win! It's raised his profile immeasurably which is all he will have wanted. It's Oti who I feel for as her choreography was sensational.
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 18, 2016 9:21:40 GMT
No, the travesty would be having a trained performer win! It's raised his profile immeasurably which is all he will have wanted. It's Oti who I feel for as her choreography was sensational. Fair point.
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Post by Tibidabo on Dec 18, 2016 9:37:35 GMT
Barefoot/ flat shoes in show dances. *GAG* Death to glamour, death to fun, totally pretentious. Bog off! Agreed. Ballet shoes when you're not ballet trained and can't point your feet properly are just meh. Well I enjoyed last night. Strange thing was, I couldn't decide between Danny and Ore - thought Danny deserved it overall, but messed up (though I thought Oti was the one who was a bit off and EXTREMELY nervous) and Ore was the best throughout the final. I gave them each 3 online votes, leaving it to the rest of the country to decide. However when the winner was announced, unaccountably, I felt a teeny bit disappointed! Louise was outclassed but I felt she was a bit stitched up by the judges giving her that dance with the dreadful leotardy costume whilst the others had dances they'd done really well in. Personally I don't care who's had what sort of training (obviously not ballroom/Latin) as I just go for who entertains me the most - which means I have to buy into the partnership, journey, personality, etc. etc. Danny definitely did the most 'wow' dances and his partnership with Oti was gorgeous. Likewise, Ore had a great partnership and learnt really quickly - it is possible - anyone remember Ray Quinn on Dancing on Ice? Sometimes you find something you've never realised you're good at simply because you've never tried it! But a great final - even if they did stretch it out at times. And finally a singer who could sing! Fantastic! And for the record I, for one, really like Kevin. Sadly I expect he's due a life-experienced, weebly-challenged partner next year!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 10:18:57 GMT
[Yawns]
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 18, 2016 10:22:22 GMT
The BBC seem to have an obsession with Emili Sande. You never see her anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 10:26:25 GMT
Just read the Sunday Mirror's coverage on the show and Ore winning and they say it was Ore and Joanne who got a perfect 40 for their samba. Funny that as Ore never even danced a Samba!! It annoys me when newspapers obviously haven't watched a show but still cover it as if they know it inside out!
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Post by alece10 on Dec 18, 2016 10:40:15 GMT
The BBC seem to have an obsession with Emili Sande. You never see her anywhere else. It's down to who has something to promote at the moment as her, Robbie Williams and Sting have been on everything recently. I'm expecting one of them to order a hot pot in The Rovers next week.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 10:57:48 GMT
Bring Arlene Philips back. Make her head judge. The ratings would go into orbit. It was announced this week that Darcey wou;d become Len's replacement as head judge. The question is, who will replace Darcey? This hasn't actually been officially confirmed by the BBC yet. I personally hope she isnt promoted, it really should be someone with more of a ballroom background
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 12:19:31 GMT
There you go... I was right! A total travesty! No, the travesty would be having a trained performer win! It's raised his profile immeasurably which is all he will have wanted. It's Oti who I feel for as her choreography was sensational. No, it wouldn't. There is no rule about the amount of experience a celeb does or doesn't have, so Danny (or Louise for that matter) winning would not have been a travesty. A travesty would have been the best dancer and performer not winning. Danny was the best overall throughout the series, Ore was the best on the night, so either of them winning would have been a good result.
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Post by Tibidabo on Dec 18, 2016 12:28:20 GMT
Bring Arlene Philips back. Make her head judge. The ratings would go into orbit. You opened your christmas pyjamas early Burly?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 13:07:20 GMT
No, the travesty would be having a trained performer win! It's raised his profile immeasurably which is all he will have wanted. It's Oti who I feel for as her choreography was sensational. No, it wouldn't. There is no rule about the amount of experience a celeb does or doesn't have, so Danny (or Louise for that matter) winning would not have been a travesty. A travesty would have been the best dancer and performer not winning. Danny was the best overall throughout the series, Ore was the best on the night, so either of them winning would have been a good result. Exactly. It's unfair to write someone off from day one for having previous training, especially as most of them have. Certainly a number of previous winners have.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 15:55:10 GMT
www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2427088/strictly-dancers-fear-the-axe-as-they-now-face-a-five-month-wait-to-see-if-they-will-have-work-next-year/Interesting story on who will be a pro dancer next year. I don't mind who they keep/axe as long as they don't get rid of Oti and they give her a GOOD dancer again (like Danny) so we can see her do some amazing routines. I'll be so annoyed if she gets a bad celebrity. I also think Anton has had his day - he looks way too old now for the show compared to all the young pros. Also can't stand Brendan Coyle - way too arrogant and all he cares about is himself rather than his partner - hope they axe him. Not overly keen on Pasha either.. Kristina is supposed to return next year supposedly which I would presume means a loss of a female pro?
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Post by d'James on Dec 18, 2016 16:05:18 GMT
I hope Gorka gets another go.
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Post by alece10 on Dec 18, 2016 16:45:59 GMT
I hope Gorka gets another go. Gorka and his chippped teeth!!!!!!
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Post by lynette on Dec 18, 2016 16:48:52 GMT
It was a good final. The moment Danny messed up that sequence in the quickstep he wasn't gonna be the winner and I bet he knew it. Not to mention God Len saying that Ore was the spirit of the show. Hinty hint hint.. my dears ...in case you hadn't got it yet. Agree the thin tights did nothing for Louise and she should have had a better dance to repeat. Maybe some of the dances are too difficult to dress and set all over again. So what now for Ore? Back to the day job? I adore Claudia for pointing that out. He can't go into the West End can he? Can he? Louise could do some light dance show maybe. Agree Anton didn't show up well and nor does his hair dye. So a bit of a shake up needed. But the BBC have a have a habit of chucking the baby out with the bath water so we'd better be prepared.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2016 22:05:43 GMT
www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/2427088/strictly-dancers-fear-the-axe-as-they-now-face-a-five-month-wait-to-see-if-they-will-have-work-next-year/Interesting story on who will be a pro dancer next year. I don't mind who they keep/axe as long as they don't get rid of Oti and they give her a GOOD dancer again (like Danny) so we can see her do some amazing routines. I'll be so annoyed if she gets a bad celebrity. I also think Anton has had his day - he looks way too old now for the show compared to all the young pros. Also can't stand Brendan Coyle - way too arrogant and all he cares about is himself rather than his partner - hope they axe him. Not overly keen on Pasha either.. Kristina is supposed to return next year supposedly which I would presume means a loss of a female pro? Stories the Sun writes about Strictly (or anything else for that matter) aren't worth the paper they're written on. There is no way Kristina will be back. Plus it's widely known that at least Natalie and possibly some others signed two year contracts this year, so are definitely back unless they choose to quit. Kevin, Karen, Oti, Aljaz, Janette, Pasha, Neil, Katya, AJ, Chloe, Gorka, Giovanni and Oksana are all doing the tour, so it's fairly likely they'll all be asked back if they haven't already signed two-year contracts (or decided not to come back). I doubt they'll axe the reigning champion so Jo will likely be back unless she chooses to concentrate on musical theatre instead. That leaves Anton and Brendan. The question mark is obviously there over whether they make Anton a judge, and Brendan has always said he has no plans to quit, so who knows. For the female pros it may also depend on whether any of them decide to start a family - Natalie and Janette are both getting married next year, and Karen, Katya, Oti and Oksana are already married. Oksana's husband is based in the US, so that might affect whether she decides to return. Oti's openly said her plan is to hopefully do a few more years on Strictly though, and Neil & Katya still compete. Having said all that, even if Kristina does return (I think pigs flying is more likely), they have more pros than celebs at the minute anyway, so that wouldn't necessarily mean anyone losing their job. I'd be surprised if they didn't bring in someone new as well, but I guess it will depend on how many choose not to return.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 19, 2016 4:45:12 GMT
I'm not sure that Celebrity Big Brother along with that sex tape with Ben Cohen will have done Kristina any favours with the BBC.
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Post by danb on Dec 19, 2016 7:16:54 GMT
No, it wouldn't. There is no rule about the amount of experience a celeb does or doesn't have, so Danny (or Louise for that matter) winning would not have been a travesty. A travesty would have been the best dancer and performer not winning. Danny was the best overall throughout the series, Ore was the best on the night, so either of them winning would have been a good result. Exactly. It's unfair to write someone off from day one for having previous training, especially as most of them have. Certainly a number of previous winners have. I'm kind of coming round to this way of thinking. I just wish that they made more of a point of discussing their pasts in VT's etc., so that the wider public were aware of the work they'd done before. "By the way I understudied and played the male lead in 'Wicked' whose big solo is called 'Dancing Through Life'...I just think it's a little bit disingenuous to skirt over it, which they do year after year. Whereas from Ore's jive onwards I thought he should win. His demeanour and work ethic were just really appealing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 8:37:47 GMT
No, the travesty would be having a trained performer win! It's raised his profile immeasurably which is all he will have wanted. It's Oti who I feel for as her choreography was sensational. No, it wouldn't. There is no rule about the amount of experience a celeb does or doesn't have, so Danny (or Louise for that matter) winning would not have been a travesty. A travesty would have been the best dancer and performer not winning. Danny was the best overall throughout the series, Ore was the best on the night, so either of them winning would have been a good result. Yes- this sums it up for me. And it's weirdly where Strictly ends up most like a 'real' dancing competition- you might be consistently the top in your field but if you go to a big competition and someone outshines you on the floor on the day, then you come in second, or third.
I think it was a fair result on the night. While Danny and Oti were by far the most technically good across the series they didn't shine quite as much on the night (someone mentioned above Oti seemed a bit 'off' at times, probably through nerves as well, happens to everyone) And honestly I wouldn't have minded who won as I never had a favourite this year.
I will miss Len, I'd love Karen Hardy to be a judge and I really think it has to be a Latin and Ballroom person, but I guess time will tell...
Also yes, Anton I love you but sort out your hair dye...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 8:42:00 GMT
The only professional I am dying to come back and get a good partne is Oti because of her choreography. If she doesn't come back next year, then I think they're be a lot of uproar!!
I think Brendan and Anton need to go - way too old up against the younger dancers. I prefer seeing the younger dancers perform and Brendan/Anton just look too old for the show.
As long as Oti is back - I'm fine!!
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Dec 19, 2016 9:47:43 GMT
The only professional I am dying to come back and get a good partne is Oti because of her choreography. If she doesn't come back next year, then I think they're be a lot of uproar!!Yup, about 23 people will roll their eyes and go "tut".
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 10:22:28 GMT
The only professional I am dying to come back and get a good partne is Oti because of her choreography. If she doesn't come back next year, then I think they're be a lot of uproar!! I think Brendan and Anton need to go - way too old up against the younger dancers. I prefer seeing the younger dancers perform and Brendan/Anton just look too old for the show. As long as Oti is back - I'm fine!! Most casual viewers don't have a clue who most of the pros (or half the celebs!) are - ask a random person on the street and they'd probably only be able to name Anton and Brendan, and possibly Kevin. Oti is hugely popular among Strictly fans, as is Katya, but I don't think there'd be a wider uproar if either of them didn't return. The bigger potential issue from a Strictly fan perspective is whether any of them will be tempted across the pond to DWTS, where Oti's more modern choreography is de rigeur...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2016 10:27:41 GMT
Oh and as if by Strictly Magic Danny is in Sleepless!
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Post by wickedgrin on Dec 19, 2016 10:32:21 GMT
Yes, the money in America is much better. The pro dancers careers hinge on being on the TV in the series though.
Regarding Brendan and Anton, I would agree with the comments above, BUT the producers do need older pros to dance with older contestants such as Lesley Joseph etc. They cannot appear to be ageist in this PC world after all!!
But, it's just a light entertainment TV show - it does exactly what it says on the tin very well. It's not really a dance competition, and there are far more important things to worry about in the world than who is going to make the next series.
I have found this series a bit like groundhog day in that the celebs fit into all the usual stereotypes. The soap star, the sports persons, the presenters, the comedy turn, the older contestant, the ex MP, the eye candy. The formula could do with shaking up a bit.
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