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Post by Steve on Oct 31, 2024 18:12:36 GMT
Received email from Donmar saying Adrien Brody won't be performing on 15 and 16 November. I know these things happen, but bit annoyed as he was the main reason I booked for this. Is it still worth seeing without him? How awful. I'm so sorry. I would say it IS still worth seeing as it's a fascinating story, staged well. Sometimes understudies can be fantastic. Any idea who you would be seeing if you go? |
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on Oct 31, 2024 18:25:16 GMT
Their email (I find it amusing they don't actually mention Adrien Brody!):
We are writing to let you know that on the 15 & 16 November the role of Nick Yarris in THE FEAR OF 13 will be played by Matt McClure.
Matt is an award winning film, television and theatre actor. Matt's stage work includes the multi-award-winning Black Watch directed by John Tiffany for National Theatre of Scotland and recently Peter Morgan's Patriots in the West End
We look forward to welcoming you to the theatre soon.
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Post by n1david on Oct 31, 2024 19:14:35 GMT
This seems pretty poor to me. Adrien Brody's name was all over this production. Obviously things would be different if he got sick but the whole marketing and pricing of this show was based around the lead actor.
I know we don't have the Broadway rules of above the title/below the title but for the Donmar to offer no flexibility on this seems rather tough.
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Post by Marwood on Oct 31, 2024 22:21:52 GMT
I booked for the 15th, if they had advertised Brody wasn’t doing the show on those dates, nobody would have touched it with a bargepole, disappointment is putting it mildly: who wants to buy a ticket for a show where the star won’t be appearing? 😡
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Post by parsley1 on Oct 31, 2024 22:25:56 GMT
Can you not return the tickets for credit?
I have done this numerous times
I think was the most basic and simplistic and underwhelming thing I have seen all year
HONESTLY you are missing nothing
It’s no Prima Facie or Yerma
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Post by Marwood on Oct 31, 2024 22:30:11 GMT
Can you not return the tickets for credit? I have done this numerous times I think was the most basic and simplistic and underwhelming thing I have seen all year HONESTLY you are missing nothing It’s no Prima Facie or Yerma I’m going to see Dr. Strangelove tomorrow night, I’ll go in and ask them |
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Post by parsley1 on Oct 31, 2024 22:44:12 GMT
This sort of occasion it is helpful to be a supporter
They tend to help out readily
Ticket changes at last minute etc
When there is a genuine need or emergency
I had issues with 4 shows in a row at one stage maybe even 5
With my seats being either moved or the performance being cancelled entirely
They recognised themselves that I was subject to a succession of changes and were most helpful
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Post by alessia on Nov 1, 2024 5:58:51 GMT
Repeating what others have said, I wouldn't bother seeing this without AB. He's by far the best thing about it.
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Post by greenandbrownandblue on Nov 1, 2024 8:24:31 GMT
Can you not return the tickets for credit? I have done this numerous times I think was the most basic and simplistic and underwhelming thing I have seen all year HONESTLY you are missing nothing It’s no Prima Facie or Yerma I’m going to see Dr. Strangelove tomorrow night, I’ll go in and ask them Do post how you get on as I'm tempted to return for credit too. |
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Post by Marwood on Nov 1, 2024 12:14:51 GMT
I’m going to see Dr. Strangelove tomorrow night, I’ll go in and ask them Do post how you get on as I'm tempted to return for credit too. I emailed the box office this morning, they’ve supplied a credit. |
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Post by andrew on Nov 1, 2024 12:24:49 GMT
Repeating what others have said, I wouldn't bother seeing this without AB. He's by far the best thing about it. Hard disagree. He's good, but for me the play is stronger than his performance, which is why I just got my ticket to see the understudy. |
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Post by alessia on Nov 1, 2024 12:56:17 GMT
Repeating what others have said, I wouldn't bother seeing this without AB. He's by far the best thing about it. Hard disagree. He's good, but for me the play is stronger than his performance, which is why I just got my ticket to see the understudy. good for you - to each their own 👌 |
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Post by asfound on Nov 1, 2024 14:41:25 GMT
I would also add that I don't think Adrien Brody is "essential" here. He's decent but the staging and ensemble really shine. I would be happy to see the understudy.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 1, 2024 18:34:12 GMT
Two tickets on the Noticeboard!
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Post by jm25 on Nov 2, 2024 18:41:28 GMT
Enjoyed this a lot. It's a good play but for me it's the performances which elevate it. I thought Adrien Brody was fantastic.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 2, 2024 19:54:10 GMT
Saw the matinee today and really enjoyed it. An easy 4 stars from me.
I totally missed the significance of the title, though - would someone please explain it?
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Post by juicy_but_terribly_drab on Nov 2, 2024 20:15:02 GMT
Saw the matinee today and really enjoyed it. An easy 4 stars from me. I totally missed the significance of the title, though - would someone please explain it? I'm not sure. The 13th amendment abolished slavery except in the case of convicted criminals in prison so it could be in reference to that? But that's not really a focus of the play, it's pretty much exclusively about the injustice of the death penalty and the horrific bureaucracy blocking access to justice in so many cases. Or maybe was that his age when a certain incident happened to him (being intentionally vague to avoid spoilers here but I assume you'll understand since you watched it)? I can't remember if it's stated how old he was. Otherwise I either also missed something or I'm none the wiser. Maybe the documentary is more explicit about the title, I definitely need to give it a watch. |
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Post by mrekko on Nov 2, 2024 22:01:40 GMT
Saw the matinee today and really enjoyed it. An easy 4 stars from me. I totally missed the significance of the title, though - would someone please explain it? I'm not sure. The 13th amendment abolished slavery except in the case of convicted criminals in prison so it could be in reference to that? But that's not really a focus of the play, it's pretty much exclusively about the injustice of the death penalty and the horrific bureaucracy blocking access to justice in so many cases. Or maybe was that his age when a certain incident happened to him (being intentionally vague to avoid spoilers here but I assume you'll understand since you watched it)? I can't remember if it's stated how old he was. Otherwise I either also missed something or I'm none the wiser. Maybe the documentary is more explicit about the title, I definitely need to give it a watch. It was stated that he was 9 in the incident you mention. My assumption is that “13” refers to jury + judge who condemned him. |
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Post by keyspi on Nov 3, 2024 10:52:03 GMT
I'm not sure. The 13th amendment abolished slavery except in the case of convicted criminals in prison so it could be in reference to that? But that's not really a focus of the play, it's pretty much exclusively about the injustice of the death penalty and the horrific bureaucracy blocking access to justice in so many cases. Or maybe was that his age when a certain incident happened to him (being intentionally vague to avoid spoilers here but I assume you'll understand since you watched it)? I can't remember if it's stated how old he was. Otherwise I either also missed something or I'm none the wiser. Maybe the documentary is more explicit about the title, I definitely need to give it a watch. It was stated that he was 9 in the incident you mention. My assumption is that “13” refers to jury + judge who condemned him. I assumed same thing you did actually, but according to The Guardian the answer is as follows "The title comes from a self-taught obsession with language and words that Yarris picked up in prison: “triskaidekaphobia” being one of his favourites" Triskaidekaphobia, of course, being the fear of number 13 |
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Post by Steve on Nov 3, 2024 11:14:59 GMT
I totally missed the significance of the title, though - would someone please explain it? Yes, as others have pointed out, you didn't miss it, as it's simply an inherited title from Yarris's autobiography.
In that autobiography, he explains how his imprisonment and his fear of 13 inspired him to broaden his horizons by reading:
"I was just left to my books and my headphones, and the pictures of family on the walls of my cell built up as I dived head-on into finding out just who the hell I was. . . I left that cell on a daily basis through the creativity of others and travelled as far away as I could. I also spent my days learning the most intricate or empowering words I could, especially if they were relevant to my situation. From this was born my fascination with ‘triskaidekaphobia’ (the fear of thirteen) because I always seemed to have bad things happen to me on the 13th. That was the first word I really wanted to understand."
The title thus refers to how bad things happen to him, and you see those bad things happening to him in the play, and simultaneously how his curiosity, about why bad things happen to him, led to his freeing himself by opening his mind to new horizons.
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Post by kathryn on Nov 3, 2024 23:03:47 GMT
Thanks!
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Post by rumbledoll on Nov 7, 2024 9:00:09 GMT
I enjoyed it but didn’t love it, just wasn’t affected as much as I thought I would be. Brody is wonderful, it’s a privilege to see him that close giving his best, yet smth was missing I can’t quite put a finger on it.. Singing bits shine big time though, what an ingenious touch!
All in all it’s good, but nothing to rave about (sadly).
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Post by mrnutz on Nov 7, 2024 9:26:46 GMT
I enjoyed it but didn’t love it, just wasn’t affected as much as I thought I would be. Brody is wonderful, it’s a privilege to see him that close giving his best, yet smth was missing I can’t quite put a finger on it.. Singing bits shine big time though, what an ingenious touch! All in all it’s good, but nothing to rave about (sadly). I agree with all of this - I was in for the matinee on Saturday and wanted to love it, but didn't. Brody brought the magic and the staging was some of the most interesting I've seen in the Donmar, but overall I just enjoyed it. I think the main issue for me was that it was too long. The scene in the woods felt like an unnecessary tangent. 3.75/5 |
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Post by rumbledoll on Nov 7, 2024 11:31:45 GMT
I enjoyed it but didn’t love it, just wasn’t affected as much as I thought I would be. Brody is wonderful, it’s a privilege to see him that close giving his best, yet smth was missing I can’t quite put a finger on it.. Singing bits shine big time though, what an ingenious touch! All in all it’s good, but nothing to rave about (sadly). I agree with all of this - I was in for the matinee on Saturday and wanted to love it, but didn't. Brody brought the magic and the staging was some of the most interesting I've seen in the Donmar, but overall I just enjoyed it. I think the main issue for me was that it was too long. The scene in the woods felt like an unnecessary tangent. 3.75/5 If does feel too long, doesn’t it? I understand that the wood episode triggered the whole repetitive ‘stories’ scenario but I thought him being undressed in the shower (presumably representing his vulnerability and innocents) has not added anything to it and felt unnecessary. I would personally sneak an interval in - them filing for DNA test for the first time felt like a good place for it (or that pivotal moment when she gives him her home number). Thus, fresh out of the interval we will be able to hop on a journey with them to find justice after all. And the above mention of the ending in the actual text would make it sooo much better. I know it’s not easy with the dog but we had a fox in Royal Court in The Unreachable ten years ago so..  |
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Post by andrew on Nov 12, 2024 22:23:45 GMT
I thought it was good. The staging is clever, the story is compelling. I had to see it from standing (the seated people looking down their noses at you stings all the harder when you initially had a front stalls seat) so I’ve ended up agreeing with those saying it’s a bit too long or in need of an interval, but it did the job for me. Great play, worth seeing with Brody, even if that means you have to endure sore feet as a result.
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