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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 14:00:50 GMT
I think it just shows how spineless the country is Perhaps we should close hospitals for the day To ensure we all vote All it demonstrates is how theatre is really not all that important or essential Or at least this is how they view themselves Shame but unsurprising people are dying kim |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 7, 2024 14:09:33 GMT
I think it just shows how spineless the country is Perhaps we should close hospitals for the day To ensure we all vote All it demonstrates is how theatre is really not all that important or essential Or at least this is how they view themselves Shame but unsurprising There used to be a poster called Parsley on here. You’d have liked them |
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Post by Jon on Jun 7, 2024 14:13:02 GMT
Who's advocating a boycott? I'm simply expecting theatres to treat their patrons with respect. There's no good reason for this cancellation. It appears to be political grandstanding. Much as the national shutdown for royal events irks me, I recognise that many theatregoers feel differently and it's on a completely different scale, particularly with the effect on travel and accommodation in London. Polling stations are only open 7am - 10pm, for many who have jobs and live outside of London, if you see a show in the evening then there is no time to also vote that day. I’m doing a postal vote as I had already got a show booked (elsewhere), but this isn’t an option of everyone. It’s ONE performance, and the results of the election could close the theatre for good with the way Arts Funding is going currently. They’ve given plenty of notice for people to make alternative arrangements, rather than a few hours as is normally what happens when shows are cancelled. A little annoying for a few maybe, but put it into perspective for the state of the country? It's a tad hyperbolic to suggest theatres will close for good because of the election. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 14:19:28 GMT
Polling stations are only open 7am - 10pm, for many who have jobs and live outside of London, if you see a show in the evening then there is no time to also vote that day. I’m doing a postal vote as I had already got a show booked (elsewhere), but this isn’t an option of everyone. It’s ONE performance, and the results of the election could close the theatre for good with the way Arts Funding is going currently. They’ve given plenty of notice for people to make alternative arrangements, rather than a few hours as is normally what happens when shows are cancelled. A little annoying for a few maybe, but put it into perspective for the state of the country? It's a tad hyperbolic to suggest theatres will close for good because of the election. Not all of them obviously (I did say the theatre, as in The Royal Court, who are AC funded - not theatre as a concept), but many are already struggling due to arts council funding being cut. If one theatre can encourage people to vote for one night, where is the harm? Every vote matters. |
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Post by Jon on Jun 7, 2024 14:22:26 GMT
It's a tad hyperbolic to suggest theatres will close for good because of the election. Not all of them obviously (I did say the theatre, as in The Royal Court, who are AC funded - not theatre as a concept), but many are already struggling due to arts council funding being cut. If one theatre can encourage people to vote for one night, where is the harm? Every vote matters. The RC isn't going to close either way. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 14:23:28 GMT
Not all of them obviously (I did say the theatre, as in The Royal Court, who are AC funded - not theatre as a concept), but many are already struggling due to arts council funding being cut. If one theatre can encourage people to vote for one night, where is the harm? Every vote matters. The RC isn't going to close either way. Bigger picture mate... |
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Post by TallPaul on Jun 7, 2024 15:07:47 GMT
Facts are so important, especially at election time. Has Arts Council funding been cut? Jan will know. And please don't call people 'mate' if it's intended to be patronising. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 15:17:42 GMT
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Post by Jon on Jun 7, 2024 15:23:24 GMT
Facts are so important, especially at election time. Has Arts Council funding been cut? Jan will know. There was a review of ACE before the election but the findings won't be for a while. I do think saying a theatre like the Royal Court will close without any sort of evidence is just as bad as a politician lying. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 15:27:46 GMT
Facts are so important, especially at election time. Has Arts Council funding been cut? Jan will know. There was a review of ACE before the election but the findings won't be for a while. I do think saying a theatre like the Royal Court will close without any sort of evidence is just as bad as a politician lying. Please read better, I'm not saying the Royal Court will close I am saying we are living in a time when Arts funding is being cut by a sh*t government and so if a theatre that is funded by Arts Council money can encourage people to vote that is a GOOD thing. I also provided evidence for the funding crisis. Don't equate me with scum like that, thanks. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 7, 2024 16:28:18 GMT
To give people only 16 hours window to vote is risible. Some people will miss the chance to vote, as other factors come into play You can see why the older demographic vote than the younger, as they have more disposable time.
Maybe the polls should open 7am Tuesday and close 6pm Thursday. Maybe it could be possible to vote online? That will come at some stage, in a hundred years time I don’t think people will rock up at polling stations, however the Mousetrap will be still open.
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Post by karloscar on Jun 7, 2024 17:00:12 GMT
Sunak in a way got lucky with Boris Johnson becoming PM because becoming Chancellor was his way to the top job. I’m not sure having to defend Johnson and his record at the next election is lucky? it's his record too! He was there all the way. Sunak only got promoted to chancellor because he was easy for Cummings to manipulate. Javid quit because he'd had enough of Cummings's interfering and Blojo's incompetence. |
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Post by aspieandy on Jun 7, 2024 17:03:06 GMT
I presume you have forgotten postal votes have existed for decades and hundreds of thousands already use them. You can register online, you have until the 18th to do so >>
www.gov.uk/how-to-vote/postal-voting |
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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 7, 2024 18:02:18 GMT
I’m not sure having to defend Johnson and his record at the next election is lucky? it's his record too! He was there all the way. Sunak only got promoted to chancellor because he was easy for Cummings to manipulate. Javid quit because he'd had enough of Cummings's interfering and Blojo's incompetence. More Johnsons personal record than his governments. He'd still be prime minister otherwise |
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Post by parsley1 on Jun 7, 2024 21:16:53 GMT
The TV debates are just hilarious
I wonder what training they get with respect to public speaking and elocution
Not much
The questions and answers are so staged, it’s a depressing tick box, no one actually says what they think, manifesto ditties are recited from heart
So sad
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Post by aspieandy on Jun 7, 2024 21:20:35 GMT
But, yes. Not at the Royal Court, but yes.
HOL doesn't agree with you.
'cuts' as described, are part of the levelling up agenda - £56 million less for London, more for the north.
On the HOL data, overall funding for 2022-26 appears to be increased, although probably not in real terms (accepting inflation has been all over the show) >>
Some objective commentary here >>
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Post by Someone in a tree on Jun 7, 2024 21:48:43 GMT
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Post by parsley1 on Jun 7, 2024 21:56:33 GMT
But, yes. Not at the Royal Court, but yes.
HOL doesn't agree with you.
'cuts' as described, are part of the levelling up agenda - £56 million less for London, more for the north.
On the HOL data, overall funding for 2022-26 appears to be increased, although probably not in real terms (accepting inflation has been all over the show) >>
Some objective commentary here >>
Plenty of arts venues manage without any public funding Called business If it’s a choice between less arts venues, improving health and bolstering defence I think we know what most people will prioritise |
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Post by Jon on Jun 7, 2024 23:10:36 GMT
HOL doesn't agree with you.
'cuts' as described, are part of the levelling up agenda - £56 million less for London, more for the north.
On the HOL data, overall funding for 2022-26 appears to be increased, although probably not in real terms (accepting inflation has been all over the show) >>
Some objective commentary here >>
Plenty of arts venues manage without any public funding Called business If it’s a choice between less arts venues, improving health and bolstering defence I think we know what most people will prioritise The Orange Tree Theatre in Richmond is an example of a venue that not only survived but thrived after ACE cut funding. |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 23:40:59 GMT
HOL doesn't agree with you.
'cuts' as described, are part of the levelling up agenda - £56 million less for London, more for the north.
On the HOL data, overall funding for 2022-26 appears to be increased, although probably not in real terms (accepting inflation has been all over the show) >>
Some objective commentary here >>
Plenty of arts venues manage without any public funding Called business If it’s a choice between less arts venues, improving health and bolstering defence I think we know what most people will prioritise but prioritising an election over one night at the theatre is disgraceful in your opinion 🤔 little contradictory no? |
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Post by forfivemoreminutes on Jun 7, 2024 23:48:24 GMT
Plenty of arts venues manage without any public funding Called business If it’s a choice between less arts venues, improving health and bolstering defence I think we know what most people will prioritise The Orange Tree Theatre in Richmond is an example of a venue that not only survived but thrived after ACE cut funding. That’s great for them! I hope any other theatre this happens to in less affluent areas will be able to follow suit. |
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 8, 2024 0:30:39 GMT
I presume you have forgotten postal votes have existed for decades and hundreds of thousands already use them. You can register online, you have until the 18th to do so >>
www.gov.uk/how-to-vote/postal-votingNo I haven’t forgotten, for no other reason than that is how I vote myself! You hit the nail on the head by saying that ‘hundreds of thousands use them’ which suggest most people rock up to the polling station still. Postal voting you don’t need photo ID, however I know how I’m going to vote, but the postal system doesn’t allow me to change my mind. Interestingly I wonder what happens if you vote by postal, but die before election day? |
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Post by aspieandy on Jun 8, 2024 0:34:43 GMT
Well, your opening sentence says people only have 16 hours to vote. They dont, they have weeks. I have no idea why you wrote any of that post.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 8, 2024 1:40:52 GMT
You know what I meant.
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Post by crowblack on Jun 8, 2024 10:18:59 GMT
Dogwhistle racism in the coverage of Sunak and D-Day: "he doesn't understand Britain" etc.. Unpleasant, and not being called out much.
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