Brexit

Sorry, did not clarify, this judgement (Prorogation) and the prior one (Parliamentary Debate/Approval of a Bill) was about Parliamentary Process not Policies/Bills and about our Democratic Constitution.

The use of the judiciary to overturn a Parliamentary Act has not been tabled and if this ever happens believe this will be more difficult as the Court cannot review the legality of what by definition is legal by the introduced act, it can only be appealed if you break the law and take it through the legal system which has always been there in our legal system as precedents have always defined/evolved the initial Parliamentary Act.

Wonder if MPs will start using Parliamentary Privilege to disclose where the Judiciary have ordered identities to be withheld as the Judiciary have now been meddling with Parliament.

If Liz Smith was still alive she'd be good to play Lady Hale.

Like the old joke, the last person to have the right idea in Parliament was Guy Fawkes.

Another day and another Brexit drama. I don’t disagree with today’s judgement, but every single time the government attempts to do something and get the job done, someone somewhere stops them. I suppose my question now is where the hell was all of this opposition to the mere idea of a referendum in the first place?

So the government has lost control, but the opposition won’t raise a motion of no confidence, they won’t support calls for a general election and we now have a law forcing the Prime Minister to ask for an extension if they can’t get a deal the house will approve... despite the EU quite happily telling us there isn’t any new deal on the table. How on earth did we back ourselves into such a corner, when we wanted to leave the room in the first place?

The best thing that could happen now is for the EU to just deny an extension and tell us to get on with it. As I see it, we are in a political stand off - Boris isn’t going to offer a second referendum, nor take no deal off the table. Either he waits out the rest of the governments term for the next general election in 2022, or he waits for Jeremy Corbyn to blink and do anything except say he won’t do anything.

The chaos was due to begin if the referendum result was to leave:




www.gov.uk/government/publications/hm-treasury-analysis-the-immediate-economic-impact-of-leaving-the-eu

The failure of Brexit was that Brexit was not defined, the referendum was idiotic in its premise of ‘Leave’ being a simple one dimensional entity.

In fact the irony is that Parliament is aligned with Public opinion, a proportion of leave at any cost, a proportion to leave in an orderly manner and a proportion who want to remain which represents public opinion perfectly.

If each of these had been defined in the original referendum the mess we are in would not have occurred as the ‘will of the people’ would have been understood and could have been implemented.

I think the only way forward is another referendum with ‘Leave’ defined and preferably before a General Election as a General Election will likely leave us in exactly the same position of a hung Parliament leaving nobody with a mandate to carry out the ‘will of the people’ which will continue to be undefined.

This will not happen as Johnson has successfully scuppered this by making his position untenable and once an extension is in place the Opposition Parties will be duty bound to go to the people and we will have another 5 years of wrangling or another General Election ad infinitum.


All in all we have to remember, the Tories called for a referendum, had a majority to implement the result but through their incompetence and disunity have bought the whole Political landscape into disrepute.

Johnson can cry Corbyn/Labour/Lib Dems who he now considers the Establishment are responsible for the mess, his and his cronies actions in scuppering May’s attempt to get a Deal is the real reason we are in this mess and if we end up having a General Election this is the message that needs to be communicated, this is not a breakdown of our Political System this is a breakdown of the Tory Party.

If you believe in Democracy I believe there are now only two major Parties, the Liberal Democrat’s and the Labour Party but the narrative has been spun so far that we now have people believing the Tory Party are innocent victims.

My voting intention is still undecided apart from the fact it definitely won’t be for the Conservatives who after their incompetence around Brexit who in an ideal world be unelectable.

Im not sure I agree with people believing the Tory Party are the victims. I think the general consensus is that the party has only itself to blame - and all these back bench politicians that overthrew May basically had it coming.

I really think people are aware it is now the career politicians playing the game, and that there is an outdated element of male ego at play, thinking they could get the job done that a woman couldn’t. Personally I think the career politicians from the other parties are flying under the radar somewhat, and it’s those that you have to keep an eye on.

Corbyn and co didn't want an Election prior to when they think Boris will ask for an extension or have Parliament closed in the run up to 31st October due to an Election.

Typical day in politics, the Democrats trying to impeach Trump, Boris and Brexit. What next Greta's head starts spinning when she is cast in The Exorcist remake.

Like Tony Blair was "trusted" by the political class on Iraq, and PPI, or "light touch regulation". How about Theresa May and her "burning injustices" aka more austerity, for longer. It's a bit disingenuous to pick out this particular clown.