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Post by daniel on Mar 22, 2018 22:57:22 GMT
The note is always pre-recorded on regular perfomances at the theatre, in all productions (West End, Broadway, the different tours etc). (The entire title song is pre-recorded in all productions, the E6 is the last note of the title song- I linked a video of Sierra Bogges and John Owen Jones earlier in the thread, but it's the last note on all recordings you will find of the song) The entire song is recorded because of the scenery and use of doubles on stage. By the time the actors get to that portion of the song they are alone with no scenery moving, so very early on in the production (as in first previews) that portions (the AHHHs) were live. The reason they stopped singing it live then (and subsquently in all later productions) is for two reasons 1. (i didn't find the documentry but I did find some comments saying) Sarah Brightman would often lose her voice (this is also the reason Chrisitne only performs 6 shows a week) 2. The blocking for that particular moment has christine shhoting her head back, make it look like "the note escaped her throat/ floated out"- it's already a terribly hard note to hit, and practicly impossible in that pose. There actresses though who choose to sing along to the recorded track, to make it more authentic (I doubt they reach for that E6 volunterly every time) Apologies if this sounds a bit dim but surely the audience can tell if the actor/actress is singing along to the click track since there would be two voices even though in unison. Does that mean that throughout the whole opening scenes of Phantom, the actors are miming? Thanks you are correct. Click track can have two meanings. For MDs and their orchestras it often is simply a click, to keep them in time. For performers, it's often the whole track which they mime to, such as Phantom during the title song.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Apr 13, 2018 15:16:27 GMT
Was I being a typical dim American when I tipped the bartenders at all the theatres I went to?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 15:26:49 GMT
Was I being a typical dim American when I tipped the bartenders at all the theatres I went to? Generally in the UK (unlike the USA) tipping isn't expected in pubs or bars, unless you are being served drinks at your table. www.tripsavvy.com/when-is-tipping-expected-1662410In a restaurant it is generally expected and it's better (for the waiting staff) if you pay the tip in cash rather than add it to a credit card payment - they are more likely to get the full value of the tip that way.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Apr 13, 2018 15:38:49 GMT
Generally in the UK (unlike the USA) tipping isn't expected in pubs or bars, unless you are being served drinks at your table. www.tripsavvy.com/when-is-tipping-expected-1662410In a restaurant it is generally expected and it's better (for the waiting staff) if you pay the tip in cash rather than add it to a credit card payment - they are more likely to get the full value of the tip that way. I just feel so guilty if I don't leave a tip to bartenders. I did that job for a bit and realize how it can sometimes be horrible. But here in US the powers that be have made it impossible for servers and such to earn a living wage so the tips are the only way they can make a (low) living. I guess I'll just continue to tip but it will be so I don't feel bad.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 16:28:23 GMT
I always tip too. Usually 15-20 pence. Is that too little?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2018 16:56:49 GMT
^ Well on the basis of "And have one for yourself..." yes, it is! What would 15-20p buy you in a theatre bar? One dry roasted nut. Possibly.
Tipping in a theatre bar...? No. Sorry. They charge enough as it is.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jul 14, 2018 0:11:00 GMT
I don’t understand when someone refers to anything as a “Marmite”. I love a bit of Marmite on bread with cheese and wine so I’m trying to figure out how something being called “Marmite” can be bad?
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Post by CG on the loose on Jul 14, 2018 0:35:15 GMT
I don’t understand when someone refers to anything as a “Marmite”. I love a bit of Marmite on bread with cheese and wine so I’m trying to figure out how something being called “Marmite” can be bad? It's not necessarily a derogatory term - people tend to either love or loathe Marmite, so it's applied to a show (or anything else) that it's thought will strongly divide opinion
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jul 14, 2018 0:46:03 GMT
It's not necessarily a derogatory term - people tend to either love or loathe Marmite, so it's applied to a show (or anything else) that it's thought will strongly divide opinion Thank you. I get it now.
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Post by Jon on Jul 14, 2018 0:47:50 GMT
Is Marmite known in the US? I've always thought it was more of a British cuisine.
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Post by harrietcraig on Jul 14, 2018 1:29:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 1:51:41 GMT
Obscure Marmite/Theatre link. Justus von Liebig, who discovered that yeast could be concentrated, and who therefore made Marmite possible, was also the inspiration for the Doctor who conducts dietary experiments on the title character in the play Woyzeck.
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Post by d'James on Jul 14, 2018 7:49:53 GMT
Wasn’t Marmite banned somewhere? Canada maybe?
Anyway, I neither love nor hate the stuff. Sometimes I’ll want some so I buy a jar but then it sits in the cupboard for two years after the first slice of toast.
(Marmite Cashews are perfection.)
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Post by Tibidabo on Jul 14, 2018 8:16:37 GMT
Marmite Cashews are perfection. No. Has to be melting off hot toast. Like what I'm having right now.
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Post by tonyloco on Jul 14, 2018 8:39:13 GMT
Aussies prefer their own local version called Vegemite. It is available in Waitrose!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 9:34:26 GMT
Aussies prefer their own local version called Vegemite. It is available in Waitrose! When I was in NY an Australian man brought down a HUGE tub of Vegemite to breakfast. I wanted to applaud his commitment to cultural stereotypes (and that as an Australian, travel-sized wasn't an option everything's bigger Down under right?!)
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Post by mistressjojo on Jul 14, 2018 9:41:19 GMT
Aussies prefer their own local version called Vegemite. It is available in Waitrose! When I was in NY an Australian man brought down a HUGE tub of Vegemite to breakfast. I wanted to applaud his commitment to cultural stereotypes (and that as an Australian, travel-sized wasn't an option everything's bigger Down under right?!) Actually, there are travel sized tubes of Vegemite readily available. Maybe he just had size issues.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 9:43:39 GMT
When I was in NY an Australian man brought down a HUGE tub of Vegemite to breakfast. I wanted to applaud his commitment to cultural stereotypes (and that as an Australian, travel-sized wasn't an option everything's bigger Down under right?!) Actually, there are travel sized tubes of Vegemite readily available. Maybe he just had size issues. "I'll show those Yanks what we're made of"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 9:54:23 GMT
Ha! I love that. Could HHP even be any more British?
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Post by d'James on Jul 14, 2018 11:44:02 GMT
Aussies prefer their own local version called Vegemite. It is available in Waitrose! I did a scientific test and Marmite is better. Vegemite tastes too chemically.
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Post by sherriebythesea on Jul 14, 2018 17:05:33 GMT
Is Marmite known in the US? I've always thought it was more of a British cuisine. I live in small town in Rhode Island and they carry it in the little British Foods section that our local grocery store has. It's where I get my Ginger Nuts biscuits and Heinz beans also. And I think that all the responses I've gotten does indeed show "The Marmite Effect"
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Post by tonyloco on Jul 14, 2018 17:55:51 GMT
I did a scientific test and Marmite is better. Vegemite tastes too chemically. You may well be right but after 81 years of eating Vegemite I don't intend to change the habits of a lifetime, especially as I have several jars of Vegemite in the stock cupboard which may well see me out anyway! But thanks for the information.
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Post by d'James on Jul 14, 2018 17:59:22 GMT
I did a scientific test and Marmite is better. Vegemite tastes too chemically. You may well be right but after 81 years of eating Vegemite I don't intend to change the habits of a lifetime, especially as I have several jars of Vegemite in the stock cupboard which may well see me out anyway! But thanks for the information. Haha. We like what we like. Also as I said I don’t eat it very often so my opinion isn’t worth much.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 19:30:45 GMT
Walkers now sell Marmite crisps but you can no longer get Bovril ones. This is a travesty, we need both!
Long gone are the days of Oxo crisps and (a vague memory this) of Baked Bean Flavour in the seventies. The king of crazy crisp manufacturers has to have been Tudor who created chocolate crisps (just wrong) and kipper (smelly) amongst other mad flights of fancy.
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Post by jaqs on Jul 14, 2018 19:42:38 GMT
We want to be Smiiiiths crisps, I loved their bovril crisps. Vegimite needs butter but marmite I can eat directly on toast or crumpet.
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