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Post by theatrenerd on Jan 24, 2023 21:31:33 GMT
unbelievablelive.comA new magic show created by Derren Brown (not appearing) with Andy Nyman and Andrew O'Connor opens September 2023 at the Criterion. As Derren says on the video, it doesn't formally go on-sale until spring but those who have seen Showman can answer a question and get priority booking. Also playing at the Mercury Theatre, Colchester from 28 July to 26 August
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Post by mkb on Jan 25, 2023 1:22:59 GMT
To save anyone else Googling, the answer is Goldfish. They're doing two shows every Sunday, which is useful for filling out a weekend in The Big Smoke.
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Post by hadeswasking on Jan 25, 2023 1:27:56 GMT
So it... actually let's you in with whatever you type. Only reason I found out was because I guessed cod. Even though I saw showman I completely forgot.
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Post by mkb on Jan 25, 2023 2:33:28 GMT
That has amused me. I was taken, hook, line and sinker, which is appropriate for a clever, fish-based marketing gimmick.
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Post by mrnutz on Jan 25, 2023 10:00:25 GMT
I'm seeing Showman tonight so based on how much I enjoy that I may well be booking for this one tomorrow!
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Post by stevej678 on Mar 5, 2023 15:12:20 GMT
This is Manchester bound before it hits the West End. It runs at the Palace Theatre from 29 August until 2 September.
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Post by mrnutz on Mar 6, 2023 11:16:33 GMT
This is Manchester bound before it hits the West End. It runs at the Palace Theatre from 29 August until 2 September. And in Colchester before that! 28th July - 26th August.
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Post by Stephen on Mar 7, 2023 11:18:48 GMT
I’m cautiously excited for this. Huge Derren Brown fan but this will hang on the balance of how good the magicians are. Any ideas who they are?
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Post by Stephen on Jul 3, 2023 13:41:11 GMT
I thought today would be a good day to revive the thread on this exciting new production coming soon. Derren’s new book is released today and launched officially at the Magic Circle tomorrow.
Glad to see this is selling fairly well at the Criterion. It seems a fittingly intimate venue for the show.
Production shots and the cast have been released including the excellent Simon Lipkin, known for his magical ability.
It will be interesting seeing this with Derren joining his usual creative team in the directors chairs.
Being so into magic means that although shows like Groundhog Day and BTTF musical are exciting to watch for the effects, I’m rarely fooled. I get the impression that this could have the pace and layered trickery necessary to stump even the most devout Derren Fans. Here’s hoping!
According to the site…
‘The show includes an updated version of a one act play not seen on the London stage in over 100 years. WILL, THE WITCH AND THE WOLFMAN, combines comedy, illusion and song to provide a breathtaking conclusion to an extraordinary evening’
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Post by theatre2023 on Sept 4, 2023 22:25:25 GMT
Below review is from one of the final performances in Colchester - ahead of its West End debut mid-Sept ———
Derren Brown’s latest show is titled “Unbelievable” … and a peculiar one as Derren doesn’t star in it. Instead, Unbelievable is “created, written and directed by UK stage and screen phenomenon Derren Brown” along with Andy Nyman and Andrew O’Connor.
The show promises “the best of theatre” with “jaw dropping illusions” and a “company of multi-talented performers who will bring to life, live on stage, an evening of bewildering trickery, from the imagination of Derren Brown.”
The poster promises “to have your mind blown” …
I’m unsure what Derren and Andy have been imagining – or what theatre they have seen recently, but Unbelievable is certainly not.
It is mundane at best and banal at worst.
What Derren has attempted to do is produce a magic show without magicians ( with the exception of one, Simon Lipkin, who is the only performer in the cast who can present an effect ) Or rather hire some interchangeable actors and musicians – attempt to teach them some magic – spending the least amount of money possible, in the naïve hope that the show can tour the world whilst the royalty cheques come flowing in.
The result is a predictable low budget mess that should have never reached fruition. Unless a miracle happens – I will be amazed if the London press don’t crucify this show ahead of its arrival in the West End.
The very basis of any good piece of theatre are the characters, the performers, the people … Nothing is more critical in magic. A truly good performer understands it is not just what you do, but who you are that truly counts. Your personality and persona are half the battle.
Audiences go see Derren Brown not just to be amazed, but because they develop a connection with the performer on stage. Audiences may not know the lead in Les Misérables – but they certainly fall in love with the character and develop an emotional connection to what they are seeing.
Strip that away and I am presented with a handful of nameless ensemble members – mere actors and musicians – with ( for the most part ) non-existent magic abilities presenting mediocre presentations. Add to that the audience’s subtext that the magic they are about to see cannot possibly require ‘much skill’ if a musician/actor learnt this mere weeks ago. And why exactly would I as an audience member want to see a musician perform magic? I don’t ask the opera singer to paint or have a band member play Hamlet.
The very concept of the show itself is fatally flawed and what is truly unbelievable is that neither Andy nor Derren foresaw this … or knew exactly what they were doing and didn’t care. I don’t know which is the lesser of two evils. Just a few weeks of rehearsal is all you need – and you, too, West End musician can be a magician. We get the two confused so often, anyway.
On with the show. And for those who prefer to avoid spoilers – read no further.
Act 1 – The Promise of the Impossible
The performance begins with a mobile “New York Subway” band on stage – trumpet, drums, saxophone – with an excruciatingly long 6 minute piece. Yes … the first 6 minutes of the show is nothing but a music jazz number. Eventually the curtains part to reveal a lone theatre chair on stage – with a ‘neon’ sign inviting someone from the audience to take ‘the best seat in the house’ … after a nervous wait, the sign proclaims “the show cannot start until someone comes up” … eventually a brave soul takes to the stage, straps on their seat belt and off we go!
The flimsiest of threads that run through the show is the ideal that everyone is performing a magic trick. The parts they want you to see is the ‘effect’ – and the parts they wish to keep hidden is the ‘method’.
Cabinet Appearance
A giant cabinet is wheeled on stage with the effect performed for the ‘benefit’ of the seated spectator. Doors are opened – cabinet is shown empty – and one of the band members is produced. Magic!
The secret of the illusion is then revealed showing how the cast member was hanging onto the side of the door all along – effectively out of view as the doors opened and closed. As the method is explained further - more cast members are produced – quite literally walking on stage into the cabinet out of view of the spectator.
As the cast members are ‘produced’ – they take a seat on the side of the stage. For the grand finale – the chairs on which they have been seated vanish – only to reappear inside the empty cabinet. The vanishing chairs are a nice touch but the only problem with the minor miracle of their reappearance is the very obvious arrival of a strange “frame” carried from the wings to the cabinet of mystery by what I can only assume are meant to be invisible backstage crew. Audiences are not blind and suspicious activity behind the cabinet mere moments before an appearance is not exactly magic.
And so ends the first piece in ‘Unbelievable’.
“Jaw dropping illusions never before seen in the West End” Not yet.
Linking Finger Rings
Next up, we are told that our pianist is remarkably an engineer. How lucky for us as three finger rings from the audience impossibly link. A cookie-cutter performance delivered with limited flair by the next ensemble member in our anonymous rotating cast. Yes, the rings linked. But we’re given no reason to care. And why should we?
Think-a-Drink
Fear not – singing magician, Simon Lipkin, will rescue all in our homage to “Prohibition”. Picture Hugh Jackman in Music Man as a singing snake-oil salesman ( complete with cart and backdrop ) doing think-a-drink. It’s as cringeworthy as it sounds. And goes on forever. And ever. And ever. It’s also not particularly mystifying to an audience when the performer is utilizing multiple steel cocktail shakers which are never inspected post-performance. The very power of think-a-drink is when the container can be handed out at the end or in the box carton version, ripped to shreds to show that all is ‘fair’.
Color Vision Box
If Hugh Jackman didn’t do it – an overweight James Corden lookalike complete with local grating accent, lisp and such eloquent sayings as “alright mate” and “I’ll tell ya what” will surely lift the spirits with a 5 spectator color vision box on stage. Yes – that color vision box … which is available for sale in the interval (!) Our Corden lookalike happily proclaims that “Derren Brown taught me how to do this” as a giant prediction is revealed with printed photos of the spectators and their chosen colours. I don’t know what’s more mystifying. That someone thought that five tiny color vision boxes on stage was a good idea … or that the audience now knows you have a giant A2 color printer backstage.
“Jaw dropping illusions never before seen in the West End” Not quite.
Squeezer To end the first half – our singing female assistant in sequins laments the plight of the magician’s assistant – and in recognition of “150 years of extraordinary magicians assistants” she is covered in cardboard boxes by our two newly promoted ‘magicians’ ( ‘Jackman’ and ‘Corden’ ) and visibly squashed leaving just her head visible as the curtains bring to a close Act 1.
Bizarre and disjointed. Absolutely.
What is most telling though is that a 14 year old seated across from me – left the show during interval – electing to rather wait in the car for his parents than watch the second half of the show. Ouch!
Act 2 – Holding out for a Hero
Cups & Balls x 6
Our musicians are back – this time with a 6 person line-up of “percussion meets cups & balls” all happening simultaneously. Picture Gaston’s cup banging sequence from Beauty & the Beast and you get the idea. Cups are banged, balls vanish, balls reappear – ending with an explosion of sponge balls. It’s a nice sequence but a little too confusing to follow exactly what’s happening.
Balloon on Thread
The next hint of Derren comes in our message of ‘stop comparing ourselves to others’ and rather ‘focus on gratitude’ The messaging is somewhat forced as our next anonymous ‘magician’ blows up a balloon by mouth and then mysteriously causes it to float around the stage. However, if you are going to make something float – you do need to disprove the use of threads. Which no one thought to do in Unbelievable ( Audiences are intelligent beings after all ) So rather than a magical floating balloon we must logically ( rightly or wrongly ) have a balloon on thread.
“Jaw dropping illusions never before seen in the West End” Still searching.
Musical Telepathy
Our pianist turned linking finger ring engineer is back with James Corden at the helm (“there ya go mate” ) with another incredible skill. She not only links finger rings but has the gift of musical telepathy.
A number of audience members have been asked to think of a song – but rather than just have them do so in front of the audience – they all mysteriously had to leave the theatre only to be brought back later as they lined up to have their ‘musical minds read’
Am I the only one who thinks this is suspicious? No … the entire audience does.
Ms Finger Ring Engineer-cum-pianist magically picks up the vibrations and begins to play their “thought” of song. Each. And. Every. Song. The routine goes on for absolute ages. A recurring theme.
Panto Séance
For our grand finale – the Davenport Spirit Cabinet complete with cheesy garden set and illuminated moon meets British comedy pantomime ( intentionally it would seem )… as Davenport’s man servant ( the irritating Corden lookalike ) attempts to travel the astral planes causing a yellow ball to jump into a wine glass, incorrectly reading the name of a spectators loved one and flying through the atmosphere – counting the change in an audience’s members pocket ( thanks swami ) If it sounds ridiculous, it is.
And then after this bizarre comedy by play – the most incongruent moment of all – the spectator on stage is asked to think of their loved one, tell them how much they love them … and in a poor nod to Derek Delgaudio ( or Copperfield depending which way you lean ) – the spectators daughter magically appears in the Davenport Spirit Cabinet.
To recap - we’ve effectively had a goofball clown on stage for the last 10 minutes dressed in top hat and tails doing panto – making woowoo sounds whilst swimming in the astral plains - pretending to be Davenport’s actual man servant … and now we are supposed to incredibly switch gears and reach the inner recesses of our emotions – feeling the love ( and impossibility ) of this heartwarming reunion.
It's just not happening.
And if you are still not sure – our Subway band is back to close us out. Complete with the show theme song imploring us to sing the lyrics ‘that’s Unbelievable’
Sadly nothing could be further from the truth
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Post by theatre2023 on Sept 21, 2023 19:16:52 GMT
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Post by seeseveryshow1 on Sept 24, 2023 22:52:00 GMT
Attended this evening’s 6:30pm performance. This jaded New Yorker found it genuinely entertaining despite a certain cheesiness. The cast performs with energy and a sense of fun.
I thought some of it was truly amazing. But thinking about it, it is puzzling that none of the audience members brought up on stage uttered “how did you do that?”
And that last skit, which we are requested not to reveal? All I will say is that the audience member brought up on stage for the lengthy sequence failed to do her part of adequately acting surprised.
The stalls and dress circle looked full. Upper circle may have had a few vacant seats. Interval lasted nearly 30 minutes.
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Post by anelled on Sept 25, 2023 19:56:11 GMT
I second what seeseveryshow1 says. This was fun and worth a look. Groundbreaking, maybe not, but a very enjoyable night out. It seemed to be a full house when I saw it last week, so something's working!
In all honesty, I'm not quite sure why it seems to have put a bee in the bonnet of some people. No one minded when Mischief paired with Penn and Teller to do a magic show using non-magicians, but for some reason, musicians doing so is a problem? I don't think this reaches the heights of any of Brown's solo shows, but it's not really trying to either. It's got broader content, and it's much more family-friendly.
Those screenshots are pretty misleading. Having seen both this and American Utopia the comparisons are pretty shallow and largely reflect Unbelievable not wanting to reveal too much of the show. There's way more scenery/varied aesthetics here than just grey suits on chain curtains (not to dismiss Utopia, which had some absolutely thrilling visuals almost all done with lighting).
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Post by theatre2023 on Sept 27, 2023 11:14:13 GMT
Reviews - as predicted - are not overwhelmingly positive
The Stage - 3 stars "mildy diverting but bland ... less unbelievable, more underwhelming."
WhatsonStage - 3 stars "The lack of real substance would perhaps be less obvious if the whole thing was shorter and sharper, or if it wasn’t performed in a traditional proscenium arch theatre.
BroadwayWorld - 3 stars "Perhaps the issue is that Derren Brown has set his own bar so high that expectations of his new material are unachievable ... the absense of Brown himself makes the production feel a bit disjointed and therefore lacks some of the wow-factor of his previous shows."
AllThatDazzles - 3 Stars "The direction from Derren Brown, Andy Nyman and Andrew O’Connor was a bit of a mixed affair. While it led to some great moments, there was a bit of a pacing problem throughout others and a real overwhelming lack of consistency across the entire show ... However, at times not all of these ideas paid off as seamlessly as hoped, leaving a show that can be wildly inconsistent. That’s not to say any element of Unbelievable isn’t enjoyable, it’s just underwhelming in certain moments."
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Post by stevej678 on Sept 27, 2023 11:17:56 GMT
Reviews - as predicted - are not overwhelmingly positive The Stage - 3 stars "mildy diverting but bland ... less unbelievable, more underwhelming." WhatsonStage - 3 stars "The lack of real substance would perhaps be less obvious if the whole thing was shorter and sharper, or if it wasn’t performed in a traditional proscenium arch theatre. BroadwayWorld - 3 stars "Perhaps the issue is that Derren Brown has set his own bar so high that expectations of his new material are unachievable ... the absense of Brown himself makes the production feel a bit disjointed and therefore lacks some of the wow-factor of his previous shows." AllThatDazzles - 3 Stars "The direction from Derren Brown, Andy Nyman and Andrew O’Connor was a bit of a mixed affair. While it led to some great moments, there was a bit of a pacing problem throughout others and a real overwhelming lack of consistency across the entire show ... However, at times not all of these ideas paid off as seamlessly as hoped, leaving a show that can be wildly inconsistent. That’s not to say any element of Unbelievable isn’t enjoyable, it’s just underwhelming in certain moments." You seem to really have it in for this show? There's lots of praise for Unbelievable in these reviews and others but you've chosen to highlight just the negative. Whatsonstage, for example, describe it as "a breath of fresh air in the West End" and say that Derren Brown isn't missed, the cast are so engaging. Not that you'd know that from the cherry picked criticisms of the show you've carefully curated for us!
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Post by theatre2023 on Sept 27, 2023 16:19:36 GMT
The fact that each and every one is 3 stars speaks volumes ... everything else is nothing but politeness on the part of the authors who would have been far more direct if not for Derren's involvement. It's only a matter of time now until the show closes.
The Times - 3 stars "Derren Brown goes missing in his own magic show ... as a troupe of actors and musicians lead us through a series of routines that are agreeable enough but ultimately leave you feeling you have just watched a cruise show entertainment rather than a fully fledged West End spectacle." TimeOut - 3 stars "Seven actors try to pass themselves off as magicians in this uneven high-concept show ...Instead, the cast of seven plays instruments, does some magic and trots out vague patter about how we’re all actually magicians performing a trick by presenting to the world the person we want to be – polished outsides vs messy insides ... That’s the justification for the show’s biggest illusion, in that none of the seven-strong cast is actually a magician." CityAM - 3 stars "Good ideas, underpowered show. ... The problem is that Unbelievable never feels particularly special or surprising. Brown has a couple of good ideas that I’d love to see in a show with more teeth, bigger stunts and, most importantly, an appearance by the man himself." Guardian - 3 stars "I’m not sure the show is the bold leap forward for magic that its creators – Brown’s longtime collaborators Andrew O’Connor and Andy Nyman, and Colchester’s Mercury theatre – would have us believe. He also has a relationship with his audience (whereas Unbelievable’s cast stay largely anonymous and undifferentiated) ... whereas the emotional climax to tonight’s show doesn’t really fly."
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Post by stevej678 on Sept 27, 2023 16:36:57 GMT
The fact that each and every one is 3 stars speaks volumes ... everything else is nothing but politeness on the part of the authors who would have been far more direct if not for Derren's involvement. It's only a matter of time now until the show closes.
The Times - 3 stars "Derren Brown goes missing in his own magic show ... as a troupe of actors and musicians lead us through a series of routines that are agreeable enough but ultimately leave you feeling you have just watched a cruise show entertainment rather than a fully fledged West End spectacle." TimeOut - 3 stars "Seven actors try to pass themselves off as magicians in this uneven high-concept show ...Instead, the cast of seven plays instruments, does some magic and trots out vague patter about how we’re all actually magicians performing a trick by presenting to the world the person we want to be – polished outsides vs messy insides ... That’s the justification for the show’s biggest illusion, in that none of the seven-strong cast is actually a magician." CityAM - 3 stars "Good ideas, underpowered show. ... The problem is that Unbelievable never feels particularly special or surprising. Brown has a couple of good ideas that I’d love to see in a show with more teeth, bigger stunts and, most importantly, an appearance by the man himself." Guardian - 3 stars "I’m not sure the show is the bold leap forward for magic that its creators – Brown’s longtime collaborators Andrew O’Connor and Andy Nyman, and Colchester’s Mercury theatre – would have us believe. He also has a relationship with his audience (whereas Unbelievable’s cast stay largely anonymous and undifferentiated) ... whereas the emotional climax to tonight’s show doesn’t really fly." You're still at it. 😂 You hate Derren Brown. I get it. But your bias is utterly transparent. You can wish it to close all you want but the show hasn't had bad reviews at all. It doesn't matter how many reviews you cherry pick the only few lines of criticisms from in among lots of positive assessments of the show. And claiming every review is three stars is an outright lie. Reviews Hub 4 stars West End Best Friend 4 stars LondonTheatre1 4 stars Theatre Weekly 5 stars Not a single review less than three stars so far? I assume there mustn't be or you'd have been sure to tell us about it. 😉
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Post by Jon on Sept 27, 2023 16:43:22 GMT
3 Stars isn't bad really.
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Post by theatre2023 on Sept 27, 2023 19:56:47 GMT
Reviews Hub 4 stars West End Best Friend 4 stars LondonTheatre1 4 stars Theatre Weekly 5 stars
We are not referring to the general “all positive let’s recite the press release give everything by default 4 and 5 stars” blogosphere but rather actual reviewers that have a history of objectivity.
Actually - I enjoy Derrens work. I take issue, however, with his attempt at this low quality money grab and replacing skilled magicians with generic low cost actors and musicians.
The outcome speaks for itself.
You wouldn’t want to see a musician who hadn’t picked up an instrument before - so why pay 80 gbp to see a “magician” who has zero skill or experience.
We’ll revisit the thread and see if my prediction of an early closure proves accurate.
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Post by anelled on Sept 27, 2023 20:15:45 GMT
Have you seen the show theatre2023? Whatever its failings, and I'd say the reviews are mostly accurate, it's enjoyable middle-of-the-road fare, I'd scarcely call it low quality or a money grab. You can't sit through this and not see they've spent quite a bit of money on it.
As an aside, are magicians more expensive than actor-musicians? Famous ones no doubt, but your average working one? I'd wager not. Whoever they'd cast in this would be getting West End Union rates. There's an artistic reason for having non-magicians doing the magic here, whether that works is up for debate, but it's not obvious to me why you think they've made an unethical choice in that.
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Post by stevej678 on Sept 27, 2023 21:20:51 GMT
I take issue, however, with his attempt at this low quality money grab and replacing skilled magicians with generic low cost actors and musicians. The outcome speaks for itself. Such scathing views on a cast you haven't seen in action and were clearly desperate to see fail before they'd even taken to the stage. Yet here in the same reviews you've cherrypicked comments from, which often misrepresent the review as a whole, the people who've actually seen the show say things like: "They’re brilliant actors. They’re brilliant musicians. They’ve learned to do these tricks brilliantly." - Timeout "There are wonderful performances from many of the cast.... There is clearly an incredible amount of talent" - Broadway World "Technically, Brown, O’Connor and Nyman’s multimedia staging is impressive, and the cast sell it for all it’s worth." - WhatsOnStage Hannah Price in particular is lauded with praise for what The Guardian, for example, calls her "showstopping routine". I imagine the cast are pretty chuffed with reviews that consistently praise their talent and showmanship. Here's to them having a long and successful run at the Criterion.
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Post by partytentdown on Sept 27, 2023 21:27:56 GMT
Well I rather enjoyed this tonight! Definitely didn't feel too long and there were some genuinely gasp-inducing moments (I REALLY want to know how these tricks are done so please message me if you know!)
And Simon Lipkin is ageing like a fine wine...
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Post by theatre2023 on Oct 12, 2023 21:41:31 GMT
The death rattle has begun.
Tickets being discounted by upto 70% to 15 gbp … upper balcony being closed off due to poor sales.
Only a matter of time now.
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Post by theatre2023 on Oct 12, 2023 21:44:40 GMT
@ stevejohnson678
“Such scathing views on a cast you haven't seen in action”
You clearly didn’t take the time to actually read the thread. There was a blow by blow review of the show and everything that is wrong with it.
The abysmal ticket sales is the ultimate barometer. The show is a commercial flop and with the current audience apathy is sadly on life support.
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Post by stevej678 on Oct 14, 2023 7:56:43 GMT
@ stevejohnson678 “Such scathing views on a cast you haven't seen in action” You clearly didn’t take the time to actually read the thread. There was a blow by blow review of the show and everything that is wrong with it. The abysmal ticket sales is the ultimate barometer. The show is a commercial flop and with the current audience apathy is sadly on life support. You're completely obsessed with this show aren't you? 😂
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