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Karagula
Jun 9, 2016 22:13:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:13:45 GMT
Is anyone else seeing this please?
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Karagula
Jun 9, 2016 22:25:56 GMT
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Post by infofreako on Jun 9, 2016 22:25:56 GMT
Yes on 27th June
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Karagula
Jun 9, 2016 22:28:01 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 22:28:01 GMT
I am seeing Monday
I hope it's good
Ridley at his best
Is unsurpassable
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Karagula
Jun 9, 2016 22:38:43 GMT
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Post by infofreako on Jun 9, 2016 22:38:43 GMT
Really looking forward to it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2016 8:25:21 GMT
I'm seeing it! I'm pretty excited about it.
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Karagula
Jun 12, 2016 0:42:07 GMT
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Post by terrylondon79 on Jun 12, 2016 0:42:07 GMT
Tonight was the first preview as they cancelled Fridays show.. Was interesting, not Ridley's best.
Nice set. Unfortunately enjoyment was hampered by one scene where there was a mic issue meaning you couldn't hear most the dialogue.
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Karagula
Jun 12, 2016 0:44:20 GMT
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Post by terrylondon79 on Jun 12, 2016 0:44:20 GMT
Oh and they need to do something about the running time .. Started ten mins late. But didn't finish till 11:15. Was seriously worried I'd be getting nightbus home!
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Karagula
Jun 12, 2016 21:35:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 21:35:15 GMT
Tonight was the first preview as they cancelled Fridays show.. Was interesting, not Ridley's best. Nice set. Unfortunately enjoyment was hampered by one scene where there was a mic issue meaning you couldn't hear most the dialogue. Please can you give more details of plot set staging etc Is it really that ambitious as they have made a big deal of the scale of the show Am seeing tomorrow but want to be sure it's worthy to attend Thanks for your time
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 20:24:04 GMT
I'm seeing it! I'm pretty excited about it. I am sorry to say Utter mess In the worse possible way in every sense The ONLY worthwhile part was bumping into a fellow forum member (1st time ever!!!) Sorry I ran off I had to get out of there The seating was awful and I have a crick in my back The "play" is not even a work in progress Where do I start? Firstly, why the annoying venue? It's not convenient for anyone It's not a proper theatre and the area is hardly renowned for the arts The "auditorium" is a concrete area in a shed Like a more crappy version and smaller than the old Southwark Playhouse (which I was very fond of) The seating is hard plastic chairs the sort you might torture people strapped to And this is sheer torture The "staging" means you are constantly straining your neck to look to either end of the "traverse" Where there is some scaffolding I can't be bothered to outline the plot as it is so terrible but we get a combination of non linear scenes with a wildly fluctuating timescale showing some sort of parallel worlds It would be a lie to to say any of it is high concept It really isn't The acting is okay (God knows what some of the performers are doing in this, I would rather sign on) The staging is abysmal Clunky and cheap and awful special effects The jugular is referred to as a vein and a character dies within 1 second of stabbing herself in this The aforementioned microphones still didn't work in one scene rendering the idea of that particular time as being futuristic as laughable Quite how this is the most ambitious staging ever in the fringe f*** knows It's worse than most primary school nativity plays I am well used to Philip Ridley and this is the first play of his I haven't liked It was a nasty shock There is a lack of any sort of focus, any prudent editing and a lack of budget and vision to try and bring his fantastical ideas to look half convincing I had no sense of scope or amazement After almost 1H and 45M I felt no connection to any character There was way too much doubling and tripling up of actors And I just could not take any of it seriously- I wanted to run into the "stage" area and tell everyone to go home To be quite frank I think it's a pisstake and borders on criminal that they think this show justifies a £28.50 ticket price
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Post by Steve on Jun 13, 2016 20:28:34 GMT
I love Philip Ridley very much, but this attempt to depict the power plays and myth-making that come together to form a corrupt religion, does not feel ready for an audience yet. At least not for this audience member anyway.
On the plus side, I met Parsley. I'm sure he left at the interval (now), and with good reason!
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 20:37:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 20:37:20 GMT
I have to add
About 1/3 of the dialogue is inaudible
And this is just due to a combination of atricious diction and execrable space
However
This is supposed to be a professional show
The sh*tty sound and microphone issues just aren't on
There is no excuse
Although they look like 1980s walkie talkie headsets
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 20:38:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 20:38:15 GMT
I love Philip Ridley very much, but this attempt to depict the power plays and myth-making that come together to form a corrupt religion, does not feel ready for an audience yet. At least not for this audience member anyway. On the plus side, I met Parsley. I'm sure he left at the interval (now), and with good reason! Yes lovely to meet you I am sure (had we been in a better area) I would have rather gone for a drink and a chat than see this!!!
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 20:45:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 20:45:38 GMT
I love Philip Ridley very much, but this attempt to depict the power plays and myth-making that come together to form a corrupt religion, does not feel ready for an audience yet. At least not for this audience member anyway. On the plus side, I met Parsley. I'm sure he left at the interval (now), and with good reason! I found it uncomfortable that the vast majority of the fundamentalists of Mareka (who are portrayed negatively) were all played by black actors and were made to behave like hysterical gospel evangelists It was the worst sort of stereotyping and I found it clumsy and offensive in fact This sort of thing TOTALLY justifies leaving as soon as one can I thought about dashing across the stage several times to make a getaway mid action But was in fear of being taunted Honestly if I had spoken for 20 minutes and done my Beyoncé dance in my night dress It would have been way more entertaining I can't imagine any of the critics are going to like this Likely the big names aren't going to be going anyway and they will send their subordinates to numb their bums on those awful torture chairs
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 22:10:52 GMT
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Post by bellboard27 on Jun 13, 2016 22:10:52 GMT
Right! Parsley in a nightdress doing his Beyoncé dance! Well I suggest we organise a venue & get the tickets on sale. Parsley, I assume Equity minimum is OK?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 22:12:21 GMT
Right! Parsley in a nightdress doing his Beyoncé dance! Well I suggest we organise a venue & get the tickets on sale. Parsley, I assume Equity minimum is OK? Will do it for FREE To save you all the mercy of this show instead!!! On this note Anyone seeing Queen Bee at Wembley in July??
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 22:12:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 22:12:54 GMT
I love Philip Ridley very much, but this attempt to depict the power plays and myth-making that come together to form a corrupt religion, does not feel ready for an audience yet. At least not for this audience member anyway. On the plus side, I met Parsley. I'm sure he left at the interval (now), and with good reason! Did you last until the end?
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 22:17:57 GMT
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Post by infofreako on Jun 13, 2016 22:17:57 GMT
Right! Parsley in a nightdress doing his Beyoncé dance! Well I suggest we organise a venue & get the tickets on sale. Parsley, I assume Equity minimum is OK? Will do it for FREE To save you all the mercy of this show instead!!! On this note Anyone seeing Queen Bee at Wembley in July?? Im going to Beyonce. Which night parsley?
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 22:18:46 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 22:18:46 GMT
Will do it for FREE To save you all the mercy of this show instead!!! On this note Anyone seeing Queen Bee at Wembley in July?? Im going to Beyonce. Which night parsley? Sunday The 3rd I think? She should do a musical Would be amazing Has the singing skills Can act okay Dances a treat Has stamina
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 22:20:49 GMT
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Post by infofreako on Jun 13, 2016 22:20:49 GMT
Im going to Beyonce. Which night parsley? Sunday The 3rd I think? She should do a musical Would be amazing Has the singing skills Can act okay Dances a treat Has stamina Same date for me.
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Karagula
Jun 13, 2016 22:25:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 22:25:38 GMT
Sunday The 3rd I think? She should do a musical Would be amazing Has the singing skills Can act okay Dances a treat Has stamina Same date for me. Lovely time we will have
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Post by Steve on Jun 13, 2016 23:22:55 GMT
Did you last until the end? Parsley, yes, just got home now. Nice to meet you. At least I had those other chaps to chat with in the interval lol. It ended at 11pm. Baemax will be over the moon. For those who want to know what this is like, think "Planet of the Apes 2," the one where mutated humans with telepathy worship missiles. What is this play about, you may ask? Well, Mareka (ie America, and if you don't guess it right away, they do American accents to make sure you do) is a land of milkshakes and mind control, where an infantilised fattened populace parrot platitudes and religious dogma, unaware that their masters really rule over them with fear and the gun. Ridley's intention is to create an epic story of resistance to Mareka, which reveals not only the phony origins of religion and the hypocrisy of the nation state, but also the cyclical nature of violence and history. However, his vehicle resembles the science fiction of Dr Who, without the Doctor and his companions for rooting interest. Worse, the doubling of actors, in this production at The Styx, makes it difficult to follow the very few distinctive characters that you might care about. Truthfully, you could watch some old Dr Who Tom Baker episodes, for example, "The Face of Evil," and learn the much the same things as here, but with charismatic entertaining leads to guide you through the story. Ridley can and will write an effective takedown of America, religion, history and humanity one day, I'm sure. This isn't it. 2 stars
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2016 2:57:32 GMT
The Curious Incident of the Lion in the Nightie
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Post by perfectspy on Jun 17, 2016 17:15:14 GMT
It's got a terrible review by the Telegraph in which they ask, is this the worst play of 2016. The location is okay, I have no problem with it. Though the three hours would mean bopping on the tube after 11pm. The price seems a joke for this sort of venue.
I think I'll give this a miss and trade Ridley for Ripley instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 14:24:47 GMT
It's got a terrible review by the Telegraph in which they ask, is this the worst play of 2016. And Aleks Sierz ends his theartsdesk review by saying it may well be his theatre event of the year. A Marmite show!
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Jun 18, 2016 14:45:35 GMT
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Post by Steve on Jun 18, 2016 14:45:35 GMT
It's got a terrible review by the Telegraph in which they ask, is this the worst play of 2016. And Aleks Sierz ends his theartsdesk review by saying it may well be his theatre event of the year. A Marmite show! It's less a marmite show, more of a homework show. No doubt Sierz received a press pack with a playtext, programme, pr notes and whatnot, then diligently did his homework to discover what the heck was going on. Parsley, Joel, Steve2 and myself hadn't a blind clue. Some critic or other said that there were 50 characters played by 9 people. Only way the critic could know that is doing her homework. If that's the case, each actor played 5 or 6 characters. We poor viewers who hadn't been set homework couldn't tell what was going on. Poor Joel and Steve2 begged me to explain what I could, and I tried my best, but my best wasn't good enough. Ridley is a genius, but this work is not audience friendly. To fully understand the show, you need to do homework, a LOT of it. It's a homework show. I respect Cavendish for refusing to do the homework, and approaching the show like us hoi polloi. The reviewers who did their homework are like experts, and their reviews are unlikely to reflect the experience of most people.
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