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Post by theatre-turtle on Mar 25, 2016 0:37:05 GMT
What are your least favourite moments from musicals?
I have a few off the top of my head:
- the new Rum Tum Tugger rap in the Cats revival
- Vidiots and Strike That! from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (actually most of the score is horrific IMO)
- The playground song from Blood Brothers (atonal, incredibly difficult to listen to)
- Bend and Snap from Legally Blonde - IMO the only weakness in an otherwise v strong score. It's juvenile and moronic.
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Post by d'James on Mar 25, 2016 0:44:53 GMT
Wow. That's a difficult one. In my favourite musicals there are songs which I like less to listen to from the soundtrack but I still enjoy them in the show live.
In shows that aren't my favourites, I'd have to look up the names of the songs I don't like. Definitely one or two in both Cats and Hairspray.
Basically the whole of Ghost for me.
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Post by Oleanna on Mar 25, 2016 1:31:15 GMT
Everybody Say Yeah from Kinky Boots Ball of Wax from Ghost (though I have grown to like it more over time)
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Post by Oleanna on Mar 25, 2016 1:31:48 GMT
- The playground song from Blood Brothers (atonal, incredibly difficult to listen to) Technically speaking, it's not actually atonal.
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Post by danb on Mar 25, 2016 7:08:57 GMT
It tends to be the 'comedy' song for me...'Master of the House', 'The American Dream', 'Over The Moon' etc
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 7:29:59 GMT
The ones that immediately spring to mind are the wizards songs from Wicked
Funnily enough vidiots and strike that are the only songs I quite liked in charlie
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 25, 2016 8:03:25 GMT
I gotta admit, off the top of my head, I'm struggling with this one.
Because what appears bad on a cast recorded, when stages and in context, can change your opinion and vice versa.
It used to be Liaisons from A Little Night Music but in time even that's grown on me.
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Post by musicalfloozie on Mar 25, 2016 8:35:08 GMT
The only one I always skip is something bad from Wicked, it just gets under my skin.
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Post by crabtree on Mar 25, 2016 8:51:56 GMT
I'm with DanB - the comedy songs in otherwise dramatic musicals, usually a group of half witted men, fluttering around the leading lady. Ghastly. And oh lordie, have you heard Queen Elizabeths' songs in Pirate Queen, especially the one with her court. With Sondheim, and I am a huge, huge fan, but I do struggle with Liaisons from Little Night Music.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 25, 2016 8:57:28 GMT
Thought of one!
The Townsfolks Lament from Seven Brides For Seven Brothers
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Post by mallardo on Mar 25, 2016 9:15:59 GMT
I don't hate it but I usually skip over More I Cannot Wish You in Guys and Dolls. The production at the Phoenix seems to get this because they play it at twice the usual tempo - so it's over much quicker.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 25, 2016 9:18:52 GMT
Other Pleasures, the song sung by the character George in Aspects of Love
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2016 9:24:42 GMT
Other Pleasures, the song sung by the character George in Aspects of Love Nooooo! Surely not the version sung by the lovely Kevin Colson! Sooo rich and poignant...
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 25, 2016 9:26:47 GMT
Other Pleasures, the song sung by the character George in Aspects of Love Nooooo! Surely not the version sung by the lovely Kevin Colson! Sooo rich and poignant... On the OLC recording it really slows down the pace of the shoe and when it pops up on random play on my i-Pod it feels like one of those songs that I just have to endure.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 25, 2016 12:05:29 GMT
The only one I always skip is something bad from Wicked, it just gets under my skin. It's not that baaaaaaaaaaad. Sorry. Bad.
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Post by richey on Mar 25, 2016 13:21:39 GMT
For me it has to be 'Castle on a Cloud' from Les Mis. Anything with whiny kids always grates with me.
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Post by Squire Sullen on Mar 25, 2016 14:11:11 GMT
For me it has to be 'Castle on a Cloud' from Les Mis. Anything with whiny kids always grates with me. Ah great, now that's in my head - at least it's only about 90 seconds long so doesn't affect the show too much. One that stands out from stuff I'm seen recently, 'Sadie, Sadie, Married Lady' from Funny Girl is beyond terrible.
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Post by loureviews on Mar 25, 2016 15:41:47 GMT
Other Pleasures, the song sung by the character George in Aspects of Love Which is one of the high points of an excellent score.
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Post by crabtree on Mar 25, 2016 17:33:45 GMT
Let's throw in 'Where is Love' and 'Consider yourself' from Oliver.
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Post by littleflyer on Mar 25, 2016 18:37:08 GMT
- Bend and Snap from Legally Blonde - IMO the only weakness in an otherwise v strong score. It's juvenile and moronic. Couldn't disagree more, the worst song from this show would have to be Blood In The Water. In my honest opinion most shows I have seen tend to have the "down" song somewhere in it and I can't agree more about all the Wizard tracks in Wicked! Although I do feel Wonderful could be made a little better with a small tapping dance break!
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Post by ptwest on Mar 25, 2016 21:57:36 GMT
The American Dream - Miss Saigon. From a show which has some of my all time favourite songs, this is tedious, repetitive and unworthy of the score. Couldn't wait for it to be over last time I saw this!
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Post by crabtree on Mar 25, 2016 22:02:58 GMT
Dare I mention 'Gee, Officer Krupke?' > To me it seems to be not only in the wrong place in the show, but in the wrong show itself.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 25, 2016 22:20:03 GMT
Dare I mention 'Gee, Officer Krupke?' > To me it seems to be not only in the wrong place in the show, but in the wrong show itself. Oh no, I love Gee Officer Krupke. Whilst this't so much a bad song, but (in my opinion) a bad line from the musical Jeckyl & Hyde (some may argue a bad show) 'To kill outside St.Pauls requires a lot of balls' For the time and era in which the show is set, is entirely inappropriate.
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Post by Jon on Mar 26, 2016 0:58:03 GMT
I think when Wicked get turned into a film, the songs that'll get the chop are Something Bad which you just turn into dialogue and A Sentimental Man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 9:00:45 GMT
For me it has to be 'Castle on a Cloud' from Les Mis. Anything with whiny kids always grates with me. But she needs a song, right? Being the pivotal character of the whole musical... And the song has to be easy enough for a very young kid to sing alone on stage. And it's echoed beautifully later on by adult Cosette and Valjean after the attack on Rue Plumet. I've always thought it worked really well, unlike perhaps Little People. Now the original version of that used to go on and on and on. No wonder that's been trimmed beyond recognition.
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Post by crabtree on Mar 26, 2016 9:24:19 GMT
About Officer krupke, who in himself has not been a major character, it seems to me to totally interrupt the drama at the point when you really want to know the fate of each the principals. I know some would say it relieves the tension, but it's like stepping off a roller coaster for a few minutes. And musically it's seems to jar. All around it are these soaring, tragic melodies, and suddenly we get this clever, clever song almost introducing the characters when we should have seen that two hours ago. Maybe it is meant to be light, and have a social message about justice and beign different, just as everything is about to go pear shaped, but it doesn't half get in the way of the flow of the second act.
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Post by mallardo on Mar 26, 2016 10:38:08 GMT
But Officer Krupke is the only light relief in the second act - it's totally needed and welcome when it comes. Perhaps some people here are going by the movie where the song was shifted to the first act - where it's not needed.
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Post by gra on Mar 26, 2016 15:38:08 GMT
The songs in West Side Story stage musical are masterfully organised within the dramatic structure, and unfortunately the film version does not reflect this.
'I feel pretty' and 'Krupke' are examples of this.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 26, 2016 17:18:38 GMT
But Officer Krupke is the only light relief in the second act - it's totally needed and welcome when it comes. Perhaps some people here are going by the movie where the song was shifted to the first act - where it's not needed. But you go from a murder to Krupke? It feels like a WTF moment Perhaps it would work in a staging by John Doyle or Katie Mitchell
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Post by mallardo on Mar 26, 2016 17:36:50 GMT
The murder ends Act One. Act Two opens with I Feel Pretty, then comes the Somewhere ballet and then Officer Krupke which is the Jets without their dead leader dealing with their freaked out state via this crazy goofy song - I think it's brilliant.
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