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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 12:19:10 GMT
So. For those who like that sort of thing, the new trailer is out for the remake of 'Murder On The Orient Express' starring everyone's favourite pin-up Tom Bateman.
Lots of others stage types are on board supporting Tom. Dame Judi, Josh Gad, Derek Jacobi, Leslie Odom Jr, Miranda Raison and dear old Kenny B. There are some movie folk too. Daisy Ridley, Olivia Colman, Johnny Depp, Penny Cruz amongst others and Michelle Pfeiffer looking FAB-U-LOUS. With a capital FAB-U-LOUS.
I wonder who did it?
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Post by d'James on Sept 25, 2017 12:50:08 GMT
Yes, I will go and see Village People Poirot in action eventually.
(I don’t know who Tom Bateman is.)
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Post by viserys on Sept 25, 2017 12:59:18 GMT
(I don’t know who Tom Bateman is.)  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 13:05:53 GMT
(I don’t know who Tom Bateman is.) Wait. What?  |
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Post by hulmeman on Sept 25, 2017 13:20:37 GMT
Branagh's whiskers though? It's a comedy version right?
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 25, 2017 13:35:16 GMT
That is nothing like Poirot is described in the books (although neither was the Peter Ustinov version either) and it looks like some liberties have been taken with the plot too. Oh and Judi playing Judi again. Wendy Hiller was the definitive Princess Dragomiroff and Albert Finney has never been surpassed as Poirot.
However I’ll go see it because I love me a star studded Aggie.
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Post by d'James on Sept 25, 2017 13:43:50 GMT
That is nothing like Poirot is described in the books (although neither was the Peter Ustinov version either) and it looks like some liberties have been taken with the plot too. Oh and Judi playing Judi again. Wendy Hiller was the definitive Princess Dragomiroff and Albert Finney has never been surpassed as Poirot. However I’ll go see it because I love me a star studded Aggie. The best, of course, being Evil Under The Sun!  Have a sausage! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 14:02:29 GMT
(I don’t know who Tom Bateman is.) OK, a brief summary. All round stud muffin. A future Mr. Ryan Pretty good actor. Pretty.  Selected Highlights: Stage: Much Ado About Nothing (Tennant/Tate), The Winter's Tale/Harlequinade, The Duchess of Malfi, Shakespeare In Love Film: Snatched, Murder On The Orient Express TV: Jekyll & Hyde, Da Vinci's Demons Soon To Be Seen: My Boudoir |
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Post by viserys on Sept 25, 2017 14:05:49 GMT
You missed The Lion in Winter. Which also featured James Norton. Double-whammy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 14:11:36 GMT
You missed The Lion in Winter. Which also featured James Norton. Double-whammy. Indeed. And with Jo Lumley and Bobby Lindsay on top form too. I absolutely LOVED that production. |
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Post by d'James on Sept 25, 2017 14:14:47 GMT
You missed The Lion in Winter. Which also featured James Norton. Double-whammy. Indeed. And with Jo Lumley and Bobby Lindsay on top form too. I absolutely LOVED that production. Oh I saw that. |
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Post by emsworthian on Sept 25, 2017 14:33:02 GMT
The best thing for me about the original film was the music by Richard Rodney Bennett. I wasn't impressed by the music in the trailer but it did look very stylish.
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Post by vdcni on Sept 25, 2017 14:35:54 GMT
(I don’t know who Tom Bateman is.) OK, a brief summary. All round stud muffin. A future Mr. Ryan Pretty good actor. Pretty. Selected Highlights: Stage: Much Ado About Nothing (Tennant/Tate), The Winter's Tale/Harlequinade, The Duchess of Malfi, Shakespeare In Love Film: Snatched, Murder On The Orient Express TV: Jekyll & Hyde, Da Vinci's Demons Soon To Be S I once sat opposite him on the tube - not on purpose I wasn't stalking him, probably. I should have taken his photo and put him on Tubecrush! |
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Post by lynette on Sept 25, 2017 15:17:28 GMT
Liberties with the plot? So they can do better than Agatha can they?
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Post by Tibidabo on Sept 25, 2017 15:24:23 GMT
Oh how you do edercate us @ryan! 👌
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Post by Elisa on Sept 25, 2017 21:56:53 GMT
I'm looking forward to it, mainly for the cast and because it's Branagh's (and I happen to love Agatha Christie's stuff).
It seems a bit too action-packed, but maybe they put all the action scenes in the trailer.
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Post by stefy69 on Sept 26, 2017 5:49:23 GMT
I'm looking forward to it, mainly for the cast and because it's Branagh's (and I happen to love Agatha Christie's stuff). It seems a bit too action-packed, but maybe they put all the action scenes in the trailer. Looking forward to this too, probably will be one of my guilty pleasure of 2017 !!!  |
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Post by tmesis on Sept 26, 2017 6:47:23 GMT
The best thing for me about the original film was the music by Richard Rodney Bennett. I wasn't impressed by the music in the trailer but it did look very stylish. I totally agree. Bennett was a genius. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 19:19:30 GMT
I'm so torn. The Albert Finney one was perfect. And David Suchet is the perfect Poirot. But then again, I LOVE Kenny B and have done for longer than I've loved anyone except my parents, so obviously I'll go and see it.
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Post by joem on Sept 27, 2017 20:17:28 GMT
Can't see how they hope to better Finney or Suchet versions but they probably don't and are simply relying on lazy youngsters who can't be bothered to watch them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2017 20:20:26 GMT
Is this really the kind of film that will appeal to lazy youngsters though? It seems more like a Christmas telly film to me.
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Post by crowblack on Sept 27, 2017 21:29:28 GMT
It seems more like a Christmas telly film to me. The BBC are doing an Agatha Christie for the next few Christmases: I thought this was one when I first heard it announced. Not sure who the audience for the film will be, though there is a trend for (apologies) oldie cinema, so maybe it's pitched at them. The last two films I've been to were playing in almost-empty cinemas, so maybe my taste is weird (The Limehouse Golem and mother!, btw - I enjoyed both) The BBC ones are Sarah Phelps-scripted. I really like her work, pleasingly dark. The BBC Writerswroom website has a really good, long interview/podcast with her on its site. |
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Post by hulmeman on Sept 27, 2017 22:44:48 GMT
I think I will be able to resist the Kenneth Branagh re-make. The grandeur of the Albert Finney version remains with me and David Suchet's attention to detail are enough for me. And, with them being period pieces, they don't age anyway.
Then there is Richard Rodney Bennetts music from the Sidney Lumet version. I can hear it now.........
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2017 8:23:12 GMT
As much as I love the original film, Albert Finney was so hammy you could practically see him gnawing his way through the scenery mid-shot. Plus he always reminded me of Marcel, one of the characters from the late, great Kenny Everett:  |
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Post by tmesis on Sept 28, 2017 14:11:29 GMT
As much as I love the original film, Albert Finney was so hammy you could practically see him gnawing his way through the scenery mid-shot. Plus he always reminded me of Marcel, one of the characters from the late, great Kenny Everett: ...and who could forget the fabulously named Cupid Stunt, 'All done in the best possible taste!' |
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Post by tmesis on Sept 29, 2017 5:57:52 GMT
Having read the novel and also seen the film several times, I find the reveal as to whodunnit, really unsatisfying
Another one is The Murder of Roger Ackroyd which is considered to be her cleverest denouement. I think you can only carry misdirection so far without feeling cheated.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Sept 29, 2017 8:11:28 GMT
I was a huge fan of her novels years ago and set about reading and collecting every one of them (I think she wrote 79) and made it harder for myself by only searching for ones with cover art by Tom Adams. I almost made i before an interest in less solitary pursuits took over.
She uses a handful of tricks repeatedly in different ways. I often reached the end of the book with the feeling that I’d read that solution somewhere else. Messing about with time is a favourite ruse, watches being reset etc. I remember who the killer is in MOTOE but can’t remember all the detail so will enjoy it on that basis.
Death on the Nile is a favourite of mine. Mia Farrow as the deranged rejected girlfriend stalking her ex and his new wife around the sights of Egypt. Fab.
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Post by couldileaveyou on Sept 29, 2017 8:34:21 GMT
Death on the Nile is a favourite of mine. Mia Farrow as the deranged rejected girlfriend stalking her ex and his new wife around the sights of Egypt. Fab. Saw it yesteday! Angela Lansbury, Maggie Smith, Bette Davis, Mia Farrow... just wow |
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Post by crowblack on Sept 29, 2017 9:22:47 GMT
My favourite of the films is Evil Under the Sun, just delicious, but some of the TV Poirots and Marples are excellent too - Murder is Easy has an amazing cast, great high summer atmosphere and doesn't have an annoyingly wooden comedian as the detective (some of them do) - instead we get Benedict Cumberbatch. The Mark Gatiss-scripted Poirot Halloween Party is another wonderfully atmospheric one - it looks like it was filmed in a misty Oxfordshire Autumn and there's a death, early on, that's pure League of Gentlemen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 9:35:01 GMT
Having read the novel and also seen the film several times, I find the reveal as to whodunnit, really unsatisfying Another one is The Murder of Roger Ackroyd which is considered to be her cleverest denouement. I think you can only carry misdirection so far without feeling cheated. I think the rule of a whodunnit, unlike any other crime subgenre, is that a reader *should* be able to work it out themselves from the provided clues. It doesn't need to - and indeed shouldn't! - be obvious, but you should be able to re-read it with frequent cries of "oh, of *course*!". Roger Ackroyd is DEFINITELY a cheat. |
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