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Post by PalelyLaura on Mar 14, 2017 9:51:55 GMT
Same here. :-( Wonder if there's any chance of an extension or transfer?
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Post by bordeaux on Mar 14, 2017 11:02:53 GMT
Have just listened to this a couple of times having not done so for a few years (the Nathan Lane version). It's vey enjoyable - and staggeringly prescient/relevant to our present moment, especially in the US. You will hear lines you won't believe weren't rewritten for the Trump era. Very much looking forward to it. Having just re-read the sleeve notes, I note it's not surprising it's so relevant as the first production was written for the Nixon era, the extended Nathan Lane version for the Bush/Iraq war era, and now it is being produced in the Trump era. Which raises the terrifying thought - given that decline in leaders - will the political situation when we get the next revival in 15 years' time be even worse than now with an even more ignorant President than Trump?!
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Post by mallardo on Mar 14, 2017 11:15:56 GMT
Have just listened to this a couple of times having not done so for a few years (the Nathan Lane version). It's vey enjoyable - and staggeringly prescient/relevant to our present moment, especially in the US. You will hear lines you won't believe weren't rewritten for the Trump era. Very much looking forward to it. Having just re-read the sleeve notes, I note it's not surprising it's so relevant as the first production was written for the Nixon era, the extended Nathan Lane version for the Bush/Iraq war era, and now it is being produced in the Trump era. Which raises the terrifying thought - given that decline in leaders - will the political situation when we get the next revival in 15 years' time be even worse than now with an even more ignorant President than Trump?! I have a politically savvy friend in Washington who says we might look back on Trump as the golden age - if Ted Cruz ever gets to the White House.
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Post by PalelyLaura on Mar 15, 2017 10:41:16 GMT
Sorry to bump this again, but what's the best way to try for a return?
Phone the theatre on the day and try for a return for that day? Phone randomly and ask if there are any returns for any day in the run? Turn up to the theatre that night and hope for the best?
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Post by PalelyLaura on Mar 15, 2017 12:28:12 GMT
Thank you! Think I might have to just bite the bullet and get over my phone phobia for this one!
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Post by Xanderl on Mar 16, 2017 9:21:06 GMT
Nathan Lane was there for the first night ...
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Post by Steve on Mar 16, 2017 13:28:32 GMT
Yes, Nathan Lane was there, though it was the second night, and last preview, to be pedantic lol. The bigger kerfuffle, than the presence of the modest Lane, was the inability of the theatre to find Mark Shenton a seat for the longest time. At one point, they seemed to be indicating that the he should lean against a back wall, which with his back pain would have been beyond the pale. Miraculously, a prime front row side seat was conjured up for him thirty seconds before lights out, to the credit of the theatre. For me, the show had a weak and dispiriting first act, followed by a charming and delightful second act: our comedy duo's trip to the underworld was listless, but their stay there was a hoot. Some spoilers follow. . . My problems with the first act were these: (1) The reasons for the trip to the underworld (to snatch back a great artist from hell to help us in our troubled times) is merely stated, not dramatised, so there is little urgency to the proceedings; (2) In a stage space the size of an average kitchen, it's impossible to stage an epic journey, and there's only so many times you can watch the ensemble (dressed in black) step in front of our hapless heroes to form obstacles for them to step around; (3) Michael Matus' Dionysos and George Rae's Xanthias don't gel as a duo: Matus is perfect, a sweaty, endearing, nervous yet committed everyman, who I adored, but Rae's geeky bespectacled sidekick just seemed to exist in his own selfish world, never really forming a pair with Matus. This is partly the show: they are going for the Bing Crosby-dynamic-actor vs Bob Hope-selfish-numbskull pairing, which is difficult to begin with, so to make that work, you have to have a preternaturally likeable sidekick, to get the balance of audience affections right. George Rae can be uber-loveable, as when he played that lovely dying man in the Southwark's "Grand Hotel," but somehow I didn't warm to him here, as he's a little stand-offish and cold. I felt that if Callum Howells had played this part, he could have balanced Matus' loveability a whole lot better; (4) The songs in Act 1 don't add up to much, apart from the brilliant "Invocation," the romantic "Ariadne," and the Act 1 climax "The Frogs." Luckily, the latter two songs come at the end of Act 1 in succession, and I began to enjoy myself. By Act 2, which is not only much more fun than Act 1, but mercifully longer, I was having a whale of a time: Act 2's opening number, "Hymnos: Evoe" is a marvellous full ensemble treat in praise of Matus' Dionysos, and the second number "Hades" introduced the character Pluto, which is a Emma Ralston with a whip, who sings up a storm surrounded by an all-male chorus, including uuterly enchanting, camp and muscular Martin Dickinson (who later shows up playing Shaw). By this point the show is all-winning, because when Shaw shows up, Sondheim's howlingly funny digs at his literacy and pomposity start (the song "Shaw" had me howling), and then you get a wonderful competition between Dickinson's Shaw and the especially lovely Nigel Pilkington's Shakespeare about who is the better playwright, and who would better save humanity from crisis. . . For me, Act 2 works splendidly from beginning to end, as it has two dramatic tensions: what will Pluto do with Dionysos, followed by Shaw V Shakespeare, that sustain the drama, and the songs are wall to wall splendid. The duo split their attentions to other characters, so their lack of chemistry doesn't matter any more, and Matus just shines and shines, such an unassuming engaging leading man, at once overwrought and congenial. I remember that Matus absolutely stole "The Return of the Soldier" musical at this same venue, and he is the best thing in this, with his full voice giving the songs full expression. His only equal in the cast would be Rachel Dalston, who does the same for Pluto. Great support comes from Martin Dickinson as Shaw, Nigel Pilkington as Shakespeare, and Jonathan Wadey as a Charon who looks and acts like he walked out of Rocky Horror Picture show or Young Frankenstein. In his own way, George Rae is chirpy great as Xanthias, despite the lack of bonding and balance of his character with that of Matus'. Act 1 = 3 stars (saved by the final two songs); Act 2 = 4 stars (I'd go again just to see it, but there are no more tickets, so I won't); overall 3 and a half stars from me. PS: Running time = 2 hours 15 minutes
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Post by tal on Mar 16, 2017 15:41:15 GMT
I saw this yesterday and really enjoyed it. The lyrics were witty and funny - as you would expect from Sondheim, and I could not help but leave the theatre humming several of the songs. I think Michael Matus was terrific, and George Rae was really good, although I do agree with Steve that there was not a strong connection between Dianusos and Xanthias. I also really liked how each member of the ensemble received a proper character to play at one point or another, giving them a chance to show their skills (I wish this happened more often in shows, as sometimes I feel ensemble members are underused).
I would really appreciate if this either extended or transferred, so I could see it again. Does anybody know whether this is at all likely to happen?
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Post by mallardo on Mar 16, 2017 16:24:19 GMT
Steve, re the lack of first act highlights, I agree that the journey is not all that exciting but, in the Lincoln Center version, Hercules's number, "Dress Big", was a very funny show stopper. Not so here?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:13:18 GMT
To Steve & Tally (and anyone that's seen this already), is there a band or just piano?
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Post by Xanderl on Mar 16, 2017 17:16:02 GMT
There's another show in Jermyn Street the following week so it can't extend there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:20:56 GMT
I have a cupboard where I keep my hoover that I can offer for a transfer. It's about the same size as the Jermyn Theatre.
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Post by showgirl on Mar 16, 2017 17:51:22 GMT
The theatre must be wishing the run was longer, as I think sold-out performances aren't that common there, never mind the entire stretch.
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Post by tal on Mar 16, 2017 19:25:02 GMT
There is a small band, three musicians if I'm not mistaken (I don't remember the exact instruments, actually). They stay on stage, next to the wall.
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Post by Steve on Mar 16, 2017 20:00:51 GMT
Mallardo, for me, Dress Big was hampered by the small cheap-looking caveman-like furry costume, which didn't look like dressing big at all. Further, the guy who looked like Herakles was playing Shaw, not Herakles, so there was dissonance over Herakles acting the big man when he wasn't that big (he was a bit big) anyway, and the main duo weren't gelling for me, and generally the song came at just the point that an audience-member-with-high-expectations (in this case, me) would start to be deflated on account of expectation-overreach. And to add to all that, it was a HOT room, and poor Michael Matus was being asked to wear said caveman costume, which, despite it's cheapness, looked way too furry and hot for a man dancing and singing his guts out in a hot room, so I felt more sorry for him, and didn't feel the number at all.
FrontRowDress, it's a 4 piece band: 2 cellos and 2 wind (alternating flute, sax, clarinet, trumpet and flugelhorn).
And while I'm looking at the £4 programme, here's the songlist:
Act 1:
Invocation I Love to Travel Dress Big I Love to Travel Reprise All Aboard Ariadne The Frogs
Act 2:
Hymnos: Evoe! Hades Parabasis: It's Only a Play Shaw All Aboard - Reprise Fear No More Exodos Final Instructions
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 21:59:44 GMT
Thanks Steve & Tally. Going on Sunday. I'm almost Sondheim complete.
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Post by herrstiefel on Mar 17, 2017 0:19:04 GMT
Another Sondheim off the bucket list. Enjoyed Michael Matus' and George Rae's performance. The show itself... well, let's not go too much into details.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 17:53:28 GMT
Just saw this and really loved it, the idea of art making a difference really resonated. Anyway just a heads-up if you missed out on tickets, the boss lady with the red hair said they do have some tickets for the final week, but you have to give them a ring to book.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 20, 2017 12:48:54 GMT
I saw this on Thursday.
The first part I generally disliked; the chemistry between the guys was lacking; I love to travel was atrociously delivered. I question the mix of low comedy and the serious nature of the second. I found the Herakles subplot not funny and question its relevance in the drama, although perhaps with stronger direction it could work. The band are terrible – take earplugs.
The look and design is classy. Thank heavens for black dress and not Carry On style togas. Interesting the copper walls match the theatre managers hair dye!
However once we arrive in Hades the piece greatly picks up, I adored it’s themes I feared it was going to be preachy but it wasn’t. the contrast between the poetry and critics was beautiful and I loved the Bards quotes. I went out the theatre on a high and I now have fond memories of the piece.
Michael Mateus is really good and I also really liked Emma Ralston’s Pluto – Her song I have never liked but here it sounded great.
*I would love so SJS to rework this, cut Herakes, give a song to Aridane questioning D’s motivation and another song about the merit of art … Oh and call it Dionysus in the Underworld!*
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Post by Stasia on Mar 22, 2017 13:22:18 GMT
Dear all, looks like I have a ticket for this Saturday I can't use. It is £25 and I an ready to provide you the booking number and message to the theatre that someone else will be collecting, or just collect it earlier and meet you at the theatreboard meetup earlier in the day, options are discussable Please DM me here or even better on twitter - JustStasia, as it gas better notifications UPD TICKET GONE that was quick, thanks infofreako
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Post by Polly1 on Mar 23, 2017 13:58:23 GMT
Got a return last night at five to 7, I think because of the general traffic chaos in the area. E1, high stool with footrest but surprisingly comfortable (and wouldn't have wanted to be any closer). My first visit to Jermyn Street, Box office guy very friendly and funny, loved the little kiosk and the back-stage toilets.
And the show? Ah yes, the show... it was reasonably enjoyable. I'm not a Sondheim expert/completist, the first half seemed like an undergrad production (I note the first ever performance took place in Yale's swimming pool), the 'contest' between Shaw and Shakespeare was more up my street but generally the 'book' seemed very weak. Michael Matus was very endearing.
A very well - and loudly - spoken gentleman (who said he was a director) left at half time, leaving no-one in any doubt about what he thought of it. Another person bailed during the second half - had to push past Libby Purves who was in her row.
I thought the orchestra was OK, it was the music's fault if they sounded off! Only one 'cello, two listed in programme, I imagine they alternate, plus 1 x keyboard, trumpet and woodwind.
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Post by theatre-turtle on Mar 23, 2017 15:06:40 GMT
Got a return last night at five to 7, I think because of the general traffic chaos in the area. E1, high stool with footrest but surprisingly comfortable (and wouldn't have wanted to be any closer). My first visit to Jermyn Street, Box office guy very friendly and funny, loved the little kiosk and the back-stage toilets. And the show? Ah yes, the show... it was reasonably enjoyable. I'm not a Sondheim expert/completist, the first half seemed like an undergrad production (I note the first ever performance took place in Yale's swimming pool), the 'contest' between Shaw and Shakespeare was more up my street but generally the 'book' seemed very weak. Michael Matus was very endearing. A very well - and loudly - spoken gentleman (who said he was a director) left at half time, leaving no-one in any doubt about what he thought of it. Another person bailed during the second half - had to push past Libby Purves who was in her row. I thought the orchestra was OK, it was the music's fault if they sounded off! Only one 'cello, two listed in programme, I imagine they alternate, plus 1 x keyboard, trumpet and woodwind. I was the handsome man in D1. I had no idea I was sat next to Libby Purves! I thought it was a randomer who hadn't understood the instruction in the first song to not take notes. The already small crowd seemed to thin after the interval. Personally I loved it. Not a classic like Sweeney Todd but full of Sondheim wit and charm.
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Post by Someone in a tree on Mar 23, 2017 16:04:03 GMT
Do stay for the second half - it's so much better.
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Post by anthony40 on Mar 23, 2017 22:48:38 GMT
Anyone got a spare ticket?
Pleeeeeeeese!
I can do pretty much any evening performance, except this coming Saturday.
Fingers crossed.
Thanking you all in advance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 11:49:25 GMT
We are at this tomorrow afternoon, extremely looking forward to it!
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Post by infofreako on Mar 24, 2017 12:04:11 GMT
Tomorrow evening for me.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 24, 2017 22:13:03 GMT
I'm doing tomorrow afternoon too. Looking forward to it with some trepidation doe to a post on a previous page saying the theatre was very hot. I hate hot theatres & can't decide what to wear tomorrow that'll be cool enough for this but won't then have me freezing travelling home at 11pm.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 25, 2017 13:15:36 GMT
Layered approach, I guess. Bikini for the theatre, sarong and suntop over it for in between, wellington boots and a parka for the journey home? I don't actually own any of those items of clothing! So went for my thinnest coat & brought a scarf for later.
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Post by Dawnstar on Mar 25, 2017 23:16:06 GMT
I reasonably enjoyed most of this. I could have done without some of the preachier bits, especially as my views differ from whoever wrote them (Lane? Shevelove? Aristophanes?). Considering a realistic production would be impossible with Jermyn Street's size & (doubtless lack of) budget, highly stylized was probably the best way to go. I thought the cast were good, especially Michael Matus & George Rae was the leads. My opinion of George Bernard Shaw was lowered due to seeing this!
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Post by AddisonMizner on Mar 26, 2017 10:10:09 GMT
I saw the matinee of this yesterday (24th March) and thoroughly enjoyed it. The production seems very timely, with many pertinent themes ringing true with what is happening in the world right now.
I found the production and performances to be very strong. Yes, the production is very simplistic, but I loved this approach.
Another Sondheim crossed off the list.
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