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Post by partytentdown on Jan 4, 2021 18:53:32 GMT
I think I missed what the reason for the casting was, can someone explain?
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 4, 2021 19:06:07 GMT
Essentially George marrying a Queen of Colour opened up English high society to all.
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Post by poster J on Jan 4, 2021 19:29:54 GMT
Agreed! Sorry, just noticed a typo in my earlier post, which should refer to injustice being remedied. Why anyone is complaining about people who aren't white being cast in a TV show is beyond me, and really rather alarming. While i 100% agree about casting, I think people are complaining about the need for an explanation in the script. It came over as clunky and, in my opinion, unnecessary. Ah I see. I haven't got round to watching it yet but was interested in reading this thread and bits and pieces about the show to decide if I'll bother. Not sure I will now!
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Post by nick on Jan 4, 2021 21:03:04 GMT
While i 100% agree about casting, I think people are complaining about the need for an explanation in the script. It came over as clunky and, in my opinion, unnecessary. Ah I see. I haven't got round to watching it yet but was interested in reading this thread and bits and pieces about the show to decide if I'll bother. Not sure I will now! It’s not Jane Austen that’s for sure. The plotting and pacing is modern and they deal with subjects that would not have arisen in contemporary literature (sex, feminism, plight of unmarried mothers etc). On the other hand, for me, it is still evocative of those period dramas. The language feels right. As does the acting style. The costumes and filming is sumptuous. It is a very interesting take. It’s well made and good to look at. It might not be everybody’s cup of tea but it is definitely a success in what it is trying to achieve.
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Post by steve10086 on Jan 4, 2021 21:37:15 GMT
Regé-Jean Page is all that is tempting me to watch this show!
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Post by oxfordsimon on Jan 4, 2021 21:39:17 GMT
He is very easy on the eye. As is Mr Bailey.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 4, 2021 22:10:45 GMT
Ah I see. I haven't got round to watching it yet but was interested in reading this thread and bits and pieces about the show to decide if I'll bother. Not sure I will now! It’s not Jane Austen that’s for sure. The plotting and pacing is modern and they deal with subjects that would not have arisen in contemporary literature (sex, feminism, plight of unmarried mothers etc). What do you think was going on in Austen novels, when young women ran off with handsome soldiers who then had to be forced to marry them?! Obviously most of the raunchy stuff happens ‘off-stage’, but her readers certainly knew what was going on!
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Post by nick on Jan 5, 2021 7:17:59 GMT
It’s not Jane Austen that’s for sure. The plotting and pacing is modern and they deal with subjects that would not have arisen in contemporary literature (sex, feminism, plight of unmarried mothers etc). What do you think was going on in Austen novels, when young women ran off with handsome soldiers who then had to be forced to marry them?! Obviously most of the raunchy stuff happens ‘off-stage’, but her readers certainly knew what was going on! Oh absolutely but posters above have mentioned that they are put off by it being put front and centre instead of hinted at. The joy of Austen is looking beneath the writing to what she’s really talking about. And that is lost.
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Post by kathryn on Jan 5, 2021 8:35:15 GMT
It’s not the subject matter that has changed, though, merely the explicitness with which it is depicted.
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Post by nick on Jan 5, 2021 8:56:28 GMT
It’s not the subject matter that has changed, though, merely the explicitness with which it is depicted. I did word myself poorly. And I can see why the explicitness might put people off the series.
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Post by viserys on Jan 7, 2021 5:48:50 GMT
Since it was me... yes, I can't stand explicit sex scenes nor explicit drawn-out violence, because both are so pointless and fake and serve nothing to further the plot. Explicit sex in historical TV shows have ruined so many good shows in recent years - funny enough, they all took a turn for the better when they cut down on the pointless sex and nudity and focused on telling an actual story, Game of Thrones, Versailles, Black Sails, to name a few. Those that never cared for any kind of historial accuracy to only tell some raunchy fantasy version like The Tudors I simply couldn't watch. As for Bridgerton, I might have accepted the sex scenes if the rest of the main story hadn't been so insultingly stupid and banal with absolutely no suprise. {Spoiler - click to view} From the moment Dishy Duke and Blandikins met in the first episode and she went "I hate you" and he went "I'll never marry!" I knew they would get married, but the "road" there was utterly unconvincing and stupid. And while I kept hoping for some twist, noo, he insisted "I'll never have kids" and she went hysterical about it, then by the end of the first season we saw her pop a kid because of course. I don't mind shows that are a bit of frilly nonsense like Downton Abbey, but I mind shows that insult my intelligence with this kind of writing. The explicit sex was just the icing on the cake.
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Post by lynette on Jan 7, 2021 23:35:52 GMT
Thanks for the spoiler viserys. I always check spoilers. You have saved me the bother of watching. I’m delighted.
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Post by dippy on Jan 8, 2021 12:09:23 GMT
Completely agree with lynette there, thanks viserys definitely no need to watch this.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 29, 2022 17:01:40 GMT
It’s back! Season 2 on Netflix.
It’s all there, gorgeous frocks, huge wigs, fields swathed in daffodils and beautiful women galloping through misty woods in a hooded cloak, pursued by Johnny Bailey who gets his bum out in E01.
No reason to watch then… 🙂
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Post by alece10 on Mar 29, 2022 17:05:31 GMT
I'm 2 episodes in. Costumes are glorious, this must have cost a fortune to make. All great fun and a bonus JB bum in the first episode.
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Post by poster J on Mar 29, 2022 17:16:08 GMT
I'm 4 episodes in and while it is still as much nonsense as the first series and the plots are arguably even more ludicrous, I think the new characters are better. Overall I'm enjoying it just as much as I ended up enjoying the first series
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Post by marob on Mar 29, 2022 18:03:55 GMT
I ended up watching all of it over the weekend. I’ve always liked Jonathan Bailey, but I was really impressed by his performance (as well as his other assets,) and the chemistry he had with Simone Ashley. Hopefully this opens a door for gay actors playing similar ‘leading man’ roles. Would like to see him in something with a bit more to it than the comedic roles he usually ends up in. Just as long as he doesn’t bugger off to Hollywood like the other chap…
Nice to see the success Golda Rosheuvel’s having, it wasn’t so long ago she was part of the Everyman’s doomed rep company.
I also love how Adjoa Ando steals every scene she’s in swaggering about with that walking stick of hers.
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Post by danb on Mar 29, 2022 21:27:42 GMT
This is just marvellous isn’t it? I thought it would take a while to top the last ep of ‘The Gilded Age’, but episode 4 and, to an extent, 5 of this second series are just ravishing. Rationing ourselves to one a day.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 30, 2022 18:42:52 GMT
I thought the whole thing was absolutely marvellous, pure escapism of the highest quality.
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Post by alece10 on Mar 30, 2022 19:13:17 GMT
Little theatre reference I've just noticed. Episode 5 has a short bit filmed inside Wiltons Music Hall.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Mar 30, 2022 19:19:49 GMT
Little theatre reference I've just noticed. Episode 5 has a short bit filmed inside Wiltons Music Hall. The bit where Eloise goes to the feminist meeting in Bloomsbury?
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Post by alece10 on Mar 30, 2022 19:29:02 GMT
Little theatre reference I've just noticed. Episode 5 has a short bit filmed inside Wiltons Music Hall. The bit where Eloise goes to the feminist meeting in Bloomsbury? Yes thats the scene. I recognised it immediately. I will be there on Saturday for a bit of G&S.
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Post by sweets7 on Mar 30, 2022 21:09:47 GMT
I just loved this series. I liked the last one too but found the story maybe harder to actually get involved in and the brothers all looked the same and I never knew who was who. And parts of the story I found odd. Anyway I love this series. The leads are so much better and worked brilliantly together and I just loved loved loved the Bridgerton family. Pure joy. I also like how it dealt with quite seties emotional,issues seriously unlike last time. Ant and Kat are both emotionally damaged from too much responsibility too young and the ineffectiveness of their mothers due to trauma. Production values are inszne. Looks gorgeous, music amazing, acting great and the story whipped up into a well sold package. I mean no sex was actually needed this series at all. Which said it all.
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Post by NorthernAlien on Apr 2, 2022 20:32:52 GMT
A point that the original books mention frequently is that the brothers are supposed to look really alike. So if you've been getting confused between them, then this is a deliberate Thing, and shows that excellent casting has happened!
I devoured this when it came out last week, and loved that they pastiched the Duke licking the spoon from S1 quite aggressively within the first 15 minutes, whilst the Viscount was interviewing potential brides.
This season worked better for me - they've plainly felt secure enough to change the stuff from the books that didn't quite work. The Duke and I (the book S1 was based on) was Julia Quinn's first novel, published some twenty years ago, and the novels get progressively better written as she obviously develops as an author. S2 is based on The Viscount Who Loved Me, and I felt that they'd maintained the vibe of the book, and some of the specific scenes, but had changed just enough that, as a reader of the books, you didn't quite know everything that was going to happen, and could therefore still be surprised.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Apr 3, 2022 10:22:47 GMT
The kid who plays the youngest brother made me smile. He appears in lots of scenes but doesn’t really have a line until the last couple of episodes, but even when he was “background” he was acting his face off. Literally “react react react”. Keep an eye on that one!
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Post by alece10 on Apr 3, 2022 11:26:21 GMT
Finished the last episode last night and thoroughly enjoyed the series. Not much sex in this series but it totally didn't need it. The costumes and wigs alone make the series worth watching. It's all very light and fluffy which is exactly how it should be.
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