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Post by theglenbucklaird on Jun 18, 2017 18:16:58 GMT
Good edit.
Went down yesterday and I literally couldn't do anything over than stick cash in the box. One thing to take from this is the amount of people that turned up to lend a hand in a crisis, again. But what was needed was organisation, and it wasn't there.
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 19, 2017 8:41:55 GMT
My experience is that local government is by far the most corrupt organisation I have come across. They are liars, nepotistic, blackmailer, backscratchers and often have little clue about town planning.
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 19, 2017 8:50:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 8:55:13 GMT
Good edit.
Went down yesterday and I literally couldn't do anything over than stick cash in the box. One thing to take from this is the amount of people that turned up to lend a hand in a crisis, again. But what was needed was organisation, and it wasn't there.
There was a lady commenting on Robert Peston's show yesterday (I was in the gym 'reading' the show so didn't fully catch who she was) who was talking about how there are volunteers there every day but any "official" people sent by various departments are different every day, so the minute there was any organisation it's lost bringing them up to speed the next day as they change over. Such a shambolic response. Volunteers are clearly working marvels but there's only so much they can do.
Minute's silence at 11am today for anyone who has missed that info.
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Post by vdcni on Jun 19, 2017 9:28:10 GMT
There are reports that Ealing Council, along with central government have had to come in to get things on track. It does suggest Kensington just didn't have the capability to manage this at all, possibly as their priority is the richer parts of the borough.
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Post by daniel on Jun 19, 2017 17:55:57 GMT
Benefit concert this Sunday at the Trafalgar Studios. All seats £45, proceeds to the victims fund.
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Post by hal9000 on Jun 20, 2017 14:40:44 GMT
For a moment I thought the lady on the left was Angelina Jolie!
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Post by lynette on Jun 20, 2017 15:43:30 GMT
Seeing interesting qs on t'internet. I'm amazed at the lack of coordination in the response, not the firefighters or ambulances who seems sadly to be geared up for this kind of thing like never before but the next level or layer, like the working out of who was in the flats and where people were and so on and now finding the accommodation and making sure they all have immediate needs. Didn't anyone in the council have a list of the people in their flats and isn't there a list of who lives where on council data bases?
And is there a civil disaster plan? Designated points of gathering, named people for contact, phone numbers broadcast and posted up, charities co ordinated for emergencies? And hotels and b/bs already in the plan so they can free up rooms straightaway? Then food supplies and I think mobile phones distributed with numbers for help already in and charged up. Can't we store this stuff?
What do I know? I'm just surprised at the chaos from the civic authorities.
Honestly one day we are all gonna need this... whatif, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 16:35:30 GMT
In the 1980s, many people always carried a printed card: IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, NOT TO BE VISITED BY MARGARET THATCHER.
There's little point in bothering with an equivalent card today, with Theresa May.
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Post by littlesally on Jun 25, 2017 17:01:36 GMT
Spare stalls ticket for the fundraiser tonight if anyone is looking? Just a donation to the fund.
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Post by kathryn on Jun 27, 2017 12:57:25 GMT
At the fundraiser Sunday night the locals there were saying it's like something out of a sci-fi movie. Like a giant alien skull or something.
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Post by Phantom of London on Jun 27, 2017 22:25:35 GMT
I went past it on the tube to Hammersmith on Sunday. I cannot describe the feeling beyond "Oh, those poor people." What you can see on TV and in photos is NOTHING compared to seeing it in real life. From the tube, you could not tell it was a tower block. It is a sort of gigantic black tooth. Satanic black, devil black, death black, unredeemable black. There are just holes. Not window shaped, just holes, with blackness beyond those. I pray for all involved. A colleague of mine had to go down and check the tracks, that everything was alright. I naturally asked him "what was it like"? He looked at me said nothing and just shook his head, I knew not to ask anything further. More on the news I hear about this, the more it reminds me of 'All My Sons.' |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 0:44:26 GMT
I've still not figured out why when there was the anger and confusion about the lack of support for the victims why the Army wasn't called in to help organize the relief effort. They would have been bodies on the ground, they can respond quickly, can work under pressure etc often when there are problems abroad we see our troops helping with relief work.
Surely they could have got a couple of units from say Woolwich barracks to help given the emergency services were overstretched.
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Post by loureviews on Jun 28, 2017 9:22:50 GMT
At Wood Lane station the other day. The TV pictures don't prepare you for how awful it is to see the building so close. I can see it will take a long time to check for and retrieve all those poor souls who didn't make it.
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