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Post by joem on Mar 11, 2017 9:53:12 GMT
Or will the touts and their "honest John" website allies find other ways of bulk scalping?
The internet didn't invent touts but it has helped to make it big business. It is so frustrating when you are lucky enough to be in the first tranch of people to log onto sales for an event only to find you're halfway down the arena or whatever.
I don't think this will resolve the problem. There are other issues - promoters passing bulk tickets directly onto the secondary market, online sellers selling to their own secondary ticket websites etc. And the pricing of tickets by some theatres does not help.
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Post by infofreako on Mar 11, 2017 10:45:22 GMT
What are the new measures intended to be?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 10:49:32 GMT
Can't tell you the measures because the bots would then work out a way round them?
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Post by viserys on Mar 11, 2017 14:36:51 GMT
Where is this coming from suddenly? Anything I missed (which wouldn't be a surprise) or just a general thought?
I don't have much experience with concerts but when it comes to theatre, I think at least in London they aren't doing too badly with preventing large-scale touting for in-demand productions like Harry Potter. We'll have to wait and see how it goes with Hamilton.
In any case, I'd rather have them try to put new anti-bot measures in place than giving up. In the end it's up to Joe Public though: If people would refuse to pay ridiculous over the top prices, there wouldn't be a market.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 16:51:16 GMT
Where is this coming from suddenly? Anything I missed (which wouldn't be a surprise) or just a general thought? From the UK Government's Department of Culture, Media and Sport, after pressure from the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Ticket Abuse in the UK Parliament and general public outrage at the present situation. appgticketabuse.wordpress.com/A recent Conservative Culture Secretary, Sajid Javid, publicly defended ticket touts as "classic entrepreneurs" and said that people compaining about them are the "chattering middle classes and champagne socialists, who have no interest in helping the common working man earn a decent living by acting as a middleman." So it's a major step forward that a Tory UK Governmemnt is attempting to address this issue.
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Post by joem on Mar 11, 2017 17:04:34 GMT
Where is this coming from suddenly? Anything I missed (which wouldn't be a surprise) or just a general thought? From the UK Government's Department of Culture, Media and Sport, after pressure from the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Ticket Abuse in the UK Parliament and general public outrage at the present situation. appgticketabuse.wordpress.com/A recent Conservative Culture Secretary, Sajid Javid, publicly defended ticket touts as "classic entrepreneurs" and said that people compaining about them are the "chattering middle classes and champagne socialists, who have no interest in helping the common working man earn a decent living by acting as a middleman." So it's a major step forward that a Tory UK Governmemnt is attempting to address this issue. This may well be an underhand way of getting the touts to pay tax? Fat chance!!!!
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Post by viserys on Mar 11, 2017 17:54:56 GMT
From the UK Government's Department of Culture, Media and Sport, after pressure from the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Ticket Abuse in the UK Parliament and general public outrage at the present situation. Ah, I see, okay! said that people compaining about them are the "chattering middle classes and champagne socialists, who have no interest in helping the common working man earn a decent living by acting as a middleman." ...wow. Missing the point much? Germany's leading ticket agency got ticked on their fingers for their stupid 2.50€ fee for "print at home" tickets recently. Quite nice.
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Post by shady23 on Mar 11, 2017 21:05:36 GMT
Ticket touts used to be a few blokes standing outside venues.
Now its professional touts selling online.
Plus your average fan whose going to the show but bought four tickets instead of two with the intention of selling them on.
Plus the fans who for genuine reasons can no longer attend and want face value back, but the resale sites charge so much money they have to ask for more to cover it.
Plus the artists themselves who see others getting so rich off the resell market that they just put huge amounts of tickets directly onto resale sites.
Plus the ticket sites themselves who own the resell sites so put many directly on there.
It really is ridiculous!
New measures are needed but if the likes if ticket master can own secondary ticketing sites then what is going to change?
It needs more than fifty screens of "click pictures of road signs to prove you are human", that is for sure..
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Post by alece10 on Mar 11, 2017 21:19:59 GMT
This was big discussed on the news tonight and they said the law only applies to the UK so the touts could just operate from computer servers outside of the UK and avoid prosecution. Which probably happens anyway.
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