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Post by CG on the loose on Feb 17, 2017 14:58:33 GMT
I only found it because it was on my walking route from office on Euston Road down to the West End of an evening, but since I moved to a more distant office, I've not dropped in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2017 15:02:44 GMT
^ But they don't just sell Samuel French play editions, apparently, but playtexts and theatre books from all publishers. So you can browse and stumble across things that you weren't looking for. It seems a shame that they couldn't form a joint venture with the NT, but I suppose that there just isn't enough space in or near the NT.
(Hello, The Man Who Doesn't Feel The Cold!)
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Post by Dawnstar on Feb 17, 2017 17:26:25 GMT
I'm surprised to see so many comments on it being hard to find. The one time I went there I had just left my glasses to be repaired on Oxford Street. I'm so short sighted that I couldn't read any of the street signs but I still managed to find it fairly easily. Admittedly I then had to ask an assistant to find the script I wanted to buy as it would have taken hours to peer at all the titles!
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Post by foxa on Feb 17, 2017 18:40:30 GMT
I used it mostly when I was a student or helping friends to find plays to put on. The staff tended to have a somewhat high-handed attitude at times, but they could direct you to, say, 'a contemporary play with a single set for three young actors' - that kind of thing. In terms of drama text publishing, I prefer Nick Hern Books - they are better looking scripts and when I've dealt with them either for rights or orders they've been great - but Samuel French is probably better for locating contemporary American plays. If so few of us theatre fans were going there regularly, I suppose you can see the problem. I use the NT and Royal Court bookshop more because I'm more likely to be there anyway.
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Post by anthony40 on Feb 18, 2017 20:19:12 GMT
I was there for about 45mins or so before heading down to catch a matinee of Boys in the Band at it was certainly busy with a lot of people taking generally and to the staff behind the register about the closure.
Even got me a book that had been on my Amazon Wish List for half price. Bargain!
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Post by loureviews on Feb 19, 2017 10:02:18 GMT
If you look on Twitter there is a change.org petition addressed to Camden Council to try and save this essential resource. For some reason it isn't letting me post the link here.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Feb 19, 2017 11:05:46 GMT
What is a "bookshop"
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 19, 2017 18:53:24 GMT
Until this thread I have never heard of this shop, so I would be a hypocrite if I said I was sad.
But wait I am sad as I mourn the loss of our great independent shops, so it will be just Starbucks, Pret, Wagamam, Tescos and Leons etc everywhere, in the continuing homogenisation of our high street, we nearly have all the same shops everywhere, what you can buy in Bromley, you can buy exactly the same in Norwich or Stoke on Trent, soon there won't be no choice, because of the decline of the independent emporiums.
So that lovely enclave in Charing Cross Road where all those great book shops are, I wonder how long they will be there, with increased rent from leaseholders and business rates going up, profits will just get leaner until the owners call it a day and all those lovely shops I named above will be in there, but no book shops.
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Post by PalelyLaura on Feb 20, 2017 15:59:29 GMT
I have to admit I'd never heard of this shop, despite being a big theatre fan, having lived in London for six years, and following Samuel French on Twitter (they are awesome BTW).
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Post by Tibidabo on Feb 20, 2017 16:31:08 GMT
Looking at the number of people who have never heard of it.....I'm presuming then it's just the southern based Am Drammers who are most familiar with spending half a day in there, searching for a script set to offer to their group in an effort to avoid doing a Coward for the 96th time.....yawn...
I'm sorry it's closing. Sign of the times.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2017 17:31:46 GMT
Visit Totnes,
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Post by loureviews on Feb 20, 2017 18:45:47 GMT
Charing Cross is nothing like it was even ten years ago for bookshops. I expect when retirement cones for the remaining independents that will be it.
Twenty years ago I used to travel down to London for theatre trips and the bookshops. Including Samuel French.
Slightly OT but has the Cinema Bookshop now closed as well? Last I heard it was struggling.
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 20, 2017 20:21:08 GMT
I mourn the loss of our great independent shops I was thinking that the other day on my way to the Donmar, POL. London is WAAY safer than when I was a teen, BUT it is SO F**KING STERILE (swearing intentional for emphasis). Scarcely an independent shop left selling anything interesting. All those handy newsagents and places to browse are just gone. Even the chain stores are going (the Plaza is now boarded up on Oxford Street) and the useful McDonalds (loos as well as food) are fewer. There's so few Londoners too, as they can't keep their homes and their children can't buy or even rent where they grew up. My guess, with these new business rates, is that even the department stores will be gone inside a decade, too. London will just be empty flats owned by foreign investors. Oh, my city. I agree. Look how gaudy and tawdry Leicester Square in now, the place is a sh*t hole. I cut through there when I walk to Charing Cross as I did today, the new building consists of McDonalds, All Bar One and Lego, which compliments that awful M&M store with Nickeloden, with just as awful Burger King, TGI Fridays, BubbaShrimp and Shakeshack there. On wonder why Shakespeare looks so glum. Then walk north and you think you get a bit of respite in Chinatown, but that is full of bookies now.
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Post by viserys on Feb 21, 2017 6:18:12 GMT
Charing Cross is nothing like it was even ten years ago for bookshops. I expect when retirement cones for the remaining independents that will be it. Twenty years ago I used to travel down to London for theatre trips and the bookshops. Including Samuel French. Slightly OT but has the Cinema Bookshop now closed as well? Last I heard it was struggling. Is that the one in St. Martin's Lane near the street crossing from hell? If so, yes, that closed a while ago, made me sad, too. I visited Samuel French once some years ago, but admittedly never went back because it's so far from the little West End Orbit I spend time in before/between shows. I do remember the happier days of Charing Cross Rd being lined with book shops of which few are left now, enjoyed a good browse there from time to time. Though I guess I'm also part of the problem as I generally buy e-Books now that don't take up space in my flat. I agree with the monkey, Leicester Square is getting more awful with every new building. Not long until it reaches Times Square levels of awfulness with all the tacky shops like M&M World and now Lego and the big souvenir shops flogging cheap made in China tat.
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Post by firefingers on Feb 21, 2017 11:57:26 GMT
I agree with the monkey, Leicester Square is getting more awful with every new building. Not long until it reaches Times Square levels of awfulness with all the tacky shops like M&M World and now Lego and the big souvenir shops flogging cheap made in China tat. Oi. No knocking the new Lego store. It is great fun.
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Post by mallardo on Feb 21, 2017 12:47:13 GMT
For me, Leicester Square, no matter what they do to it, is kind of saved by the little park and its trees, unlike Times Square in NY which has been transformed into a seething cauldron of humanity that looks and feels like one of the inner circles of hell.
If you want to experience a genuine tourist-magnet sh*thole though, venture over to Hollywood Boulevard next time you're in LA.
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Post by Tibidabo on Feb 21, 2017 12:49:37 GMT
I've actually been standing in Leicester Square and have tourists ask me where it is and think I'm taking the P when I tell them they are, um, there! Next time maybe I'll direct them around 4 corners, back to where they are!
It never ceases to amaze me how they manage to make it look ok when filming red carpet scenes at premieres.
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Post by mallardo on Feb 21, 2017 13:47:55 GMT
Hollywood Boulevard next time you're in LA Wow, it's still that bad even now? Was there nearly 30 years ago and even then...
It's worse. Of course Trump, the one time slum landlord, has - for some reason no one can explain to me - a star there, somewhere, so now the awfulness has some context, at least.
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Post by Jon on Feb 21, 2017 13:48:15 GMT
For me, Leicester Square, no matter what they do to it, is kind of saved by the little park and its trees, unlike Times Square in NY which has been transformed into a seething cauldron of humanity that looks and feels like one of the inner circles of hell. If you want to experience a genuine tourist-magnet sh*thole though, venture over to Hollywood Boulevard next time you're in LA. I lasted twenty minutes on Hollywood Boulevard, I'd suspected it was going to be bad but the reality is much worse..
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Post by kathryn on Feb 21, 2017 14:29:51 GMT
I've actually been standing in Leicester Square and have tourists ask me where it is and think I'm taking the P when I tell them they are, um, there! Next time maybe I'll direct them around 4 corners, back to where they are! It never ceases to amaze me how they manage to make it look ok when filming red carpet scenes at premieres. You think that's amazing - I've been to the Dolby Theatre, where they hold the Oscars, and it's in the middle of an actual shopping mall. I don't know how they manage to avoid Subway in all the red carpet coverage....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:28:38 GMT
Leicester Square's not too bad. Piccadilly Circus though, not a tree in sight and frequently smells of raw sewage. Ick. XP
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2017 17:37:13 GMT
Piccadilly Circus hasn't been the same since the Dilly Boys left... (I quite liked Hollywood Boulevard.)
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Post by Phantom of London on Feb 21, 2017 19:35:29 GMT
For me, Leicester Square, no matter what they do to it, is kind of saved by the little park and its trees, unlike Times Square in NY which has been transformed into a seething cauldron of humanity that looks and feels like one of the inner circles of hell. If you want to experience a genuine tourist-magnet sh*thole though, venture over to Hollywood Boulevard next time you're in LA. When you can get into that little park, it is often hived off for corporate events. Lot better little parks such as Soho Park and Golden Park. On my walk from Baker Street I often cut through the iconic Carnaby Street, which was synonymous for 60's Flower Power, Vespa Motorcycle and a few naughty illegal highs, now it is just another homogenised street with multi-nationals, it is so depressing.
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Post by Mr Snow on Apr 5, 2017 8:05:58 GMT
Just a reminder the bookshop closes next week.
Stock is getting a little thin but at 75% off there are a few bargains to be had.
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