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Post by thebearofwestend on Nov 23, 2016 5:49:06 GMT
except Cirque du Soeli of course
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Post by Jan on Nov 23, 2016 7:36:22 GMT
I agree about food but water is acceptable. Theatres can be very hot places especially when it's a sold out show and I think not having people faint from exhaustion outweights someone having a sip/glug of water once every often. For the first two decades of my theatre-going no-one took any drinks in at all, water or anything else, and I never saw a single person faint from exhaustion, so your fears are unfounded. Ban all drink and food. Once at the Barbican I was sitting next to a Japanese tourist and at one point he pulled out a large raw onion and proceeded to eat it like an apple.
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 23, 2016 7:40:51 GMT
Once at the Barbican I was sitting next to a Japanese tourist and at one point he pulled out a large raw onion and proceeded to eat it like an apple.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 8:51:28 GMT
I agree about food but water is acceptable. Theatres can be very hot places especially when it's a sold out show and I think not having people faint from exhaustion outweights someone having a sip/glug of water once every often. For the first two decades of my theatre-going no-one took any drinks in at all, water or anything else, and I never saw a single person faint from exhaustion, so your fears are unfounded. Ban all drink and food. If I had to go two hours without water I would faint. Fact. Unless you'd rather go back to the days when severely disabled people like me were kept locked up in Homes?
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Post by anthony40 on Nov 23, 2016 9:04:20 GMT
Welcome to the board manchestergirl
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:24:05 GMT
Water is fine. I think if you have it in a plastic cup then it's less obtrusive to the person behind you when you take a sip than if you have a bottle, but the ideal would be any vessel but with a drinking straw (unless you're a slurper!).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:25:21 GMT
I agree about food but water is acceptable. Theatres can be very hot places especially when it's a sold out show and I think not having people faint from exhaustion outweights someone having a sip/glug of water once every often. For the first two decades of my theatre-going no-one took any drinks in at all, water or anything else, and I never saw a single person faint from exhaustion, so your fears are unfounded. Ban all drink and food. Once at the Barbican I was sitting next to a Japanese tourist and at one point he pulled out a large raw onion and proceeded to eat it like an apple. But was it the case that water hadn't been invented back then?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:46:54 GMT
Oh my please don't let this decend into 'it were better in my day son'. Yes we are all aware u had to walk 20 miles in a war zone during a winter the likes we will never see again to get to school!
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Post by DuchessConstance on Nov 23, 2016 9:57:18 GMT
Yeah, the good old days when sick and disabled people died or were kept locked up.
Can we please not start throwing terms like special snowflake around? It's very ableist.
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Post by d'James on Nov 23, 2016 10:16:40 GMT
They were discussing this on BBC Breakfast earlier. Can't find a link to the piece just yet, but will look later.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:20:50 GMT
Can we please not start throwing terms like special snowflake around? It's very ableist. I was using the term to mean, "me first and forget everyone else" attitude. And nobody was talking about locking anyone up - though don't get me started on victims - yes, there are victims, of "(Don't) Care In The Community" as a policy. There should have been choice, and there isn't. And for the record, I was heavily involved in instigating "relaxed" performances, DC. So. None of which means the use of the term isn't problematic, and it would be greatly appreciated if that could be borne in mind. Once a word or term has been co-opted to be used as a pejorative for a particular group, we don't get to chuck it around willy-nilly anymore, no matter how pure our intentions.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:29:56 GMT
Yeah, that's one of the side effects of the internet, language is evolving a HELLUVA lot quicker than it used to!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:35:50 GMT
Can we please not start throwing terms like special snowflake around? It's very ableist. Since when? The only meaning I know of — and the only meaning I've been able to find with a quick bit of research — is the one about having a false sense of entitlement and uniqueness. It's all about "things have to be done my way because I matter more than anyone else". It has nothing to do with any genuine problems. It may be that some small group somewhere has decided the term offends them and now expects everyone else to respect that, but that's pretty much exactly the attitude everyone else means by "special snowflake".
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:38:06 GMT
bloody hell cant people just have a sip of water if they r thirsty in the theatre?! WHAT is the big deal?!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:42:39 GMT
Can we please not start throwing terms like special snowflake around? It's very ableist. I was using the term to mean, "me first and forget everyone else" attitude. And nobody was talking about locking anyone up - though don't get me started on victims - yes, there are victims, of "(Don't) Care In The Community" as a policy. There should have been choice, and there isn't. And for the record, I was heavily involved in instigating "relaxed" performances, DC. So. My point is that "norms" of behaviour were established which are only very recently being broken - and many are actually suffering the consequences. We'd never get anywhere if driving was "as you want to" and nobody conformed to agreed rules of the road to make it safe for everyone. To give a better example of failure to replace a good norm with a bad one: in "the arts" there are a lot of young, talented people who are now making no money at all from things like music, whereas they should be the next Elton John, Beatles, Madonna etc. Rolling in it because of how brilliant they are. Reason? A whole generation has torn up the rule-book and think creativity is free, well, should be free and downloadable without payment online. Result: poverty for creators and now a dearth of individual creativity. Every action has a reaction, and breakdowns of norms in one area can lead to destruction of something in another. Except that isn't exactly the case - I saw an interview with that woman from the Rolling Stones and he said u never made any money from being in music industry except between the 70s - 90s and now it's gone full circle again. U also forget people like Adele who sold 20,000,000+ albums this year
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:47:40 GMT
Yeah, that's one of the side effects of the internet, language is evolving a HELLUVA lot quicker than it used to! I'd expect language to evolve more slowly these days. One thing we've had over the past century that we've never had before is that the language we encounter on a daily basis isn't just the language of this moment. What we're exposed to is language as it has been spoken over several decades, and that's going to result in a stabilising influence as today's changes are diluted in the ocean of time. What the Internet does give us is greater exposure to fads, but they usually fade away as quickly as they arrive. A small group of people saying "this word is in, that one is out" will be replaced by the next group to get their minute in the spotlight.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:57:21 GMT
Estanabually, flat.
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Post by DuchessConstance on Nov 23, 2016 15:53:44 GMT
Can we please not start throwing terms like special snowflake around? It's very ableist. Since when? The only meaning I know of — and the only meaning I've been able to find with a quick bit of research — is the one about having a false sense of entitlement and uniqueness. It's all about "things have to be done my way because I matter more than anyone else". It has nothing to do with any genuine problems. It may be that some small group somewhere has decided the term offends them and now expects everyone else to respect that, but that's pretty much exactly the attitude everyone else means by "special snowflake". I mean that it's ableist only when it's being used to describe people with special needs. I don't have any problem with the term in general. Obviously plenty of people are very entitled, and insist that rules don't apply to them. I don't considering needing/wanting regular access to water to be "entitled."
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Post by BurlyBeaR on Nov 25, 2016 12:33:25 GMT
Maybe we could just let the ladies have water. And the men can hold it for them so they don't make a noise with it
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Post by Coated on Nov 25, 2016 12:40:34 GMT
Maybe we could just let the ladies have water. And the men can hold it for them so they don't make a noise with it Could we have a 'someone give that bear a slap' emoticon
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